Question for Left-Leaning Individuals: Democrats, Socialists, Liberals, Marxists, Communists, Big-Government, One-Worlders, Etc.

[ActionJackson]

="sealybobo, post: 33149598, member: 11281"]
I believe unions are important to having a middle class. Republicans are anti union.

I am middle class and have worked as a union worker as well as a non-union worker. Although I don't really notice the difference between the two at the end of the day, I have generally brought home more money as a non-union worker. It behooves employers to take care of their workers if they hope to keep them. Employers who don't take care of their workers lose them and go under.

I believe we need to go Green

Although I do believe in being good stewards of our natural resources, I also believe there's a point where going green will cause the economy to come to a screeching halt. Without using natural resources, being in a union becomes a moot point.

I like pro choice

Great for the promiscuous. Not so good for the baby.

Democrats are more the party that looks out for labor. Republicans say uneducated blue collar whites are only worth $15 hr. Can't live on that.

When the left tells when employers must pay their employees ... employers end up laying off the employees. In other words, in the effort to help workers, the left's policies end up backfiring and causing more harm than good.

Democrats properly regulate industry. Look how they lowered drug prices. You're welcome.

If we're going to be honest, we have to give Trump a lot of credit for lowering drug prices.

Infrastructure spendng

Unfortunately, money that should be spent on the infrastructure is now in the hands of Ukraine and, soon, Israel. But this reckless spending is the fault of Democrats AND RINOs.

They support/defend social security and medicare.

Both parties have taken turns gutting both Socialist programs. But neither has taken steps to end them either. Unfortunately, the money paid into these programs by hardworking Americans is going to illegals who haven't contributed a dime. That's a left-leaning policy.

 

[Votto]

Please name for me one conservative policy success story in the last 4 decades.
I'll wait.

That's not fair. All the GOP does is vote along the DNC for more and more spending and insane policies.

You just hate those in the GOP only giving lip service to opposition to the DNC.

 

[ActionJackson]

It is fact/science based (the gender identity yahoo's notwithstanding), displays empathy for fellow human beings, is more tolerant of others unlike myself, is aspirational, not dogmatic, seeks compromise if counterparts are willing, recognizes we rise and fall as a country........not individuals.

How is left leaning policies "fact or science" based? The fact is that if we stop regulating folks and dumbing down our youth, the human mind is free to invent things that are beneficial to all of mankind. It's also a fact that conservative-minded folks are more charitable than lefties are.

"Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals."

Who's More Charitable - Liberals or Conservatives?

To be honest, I don't really care about the answer to this question. But read this Kristof NY Times column, and see if you're convinced of the answer.

www.science20.com

 

[candycorn]

How is left leaning policies "fact or science" based? The fact is that if we stop regulating folks and dumbing down our youth, the human mind is free to invent things that are beneficial to all of mankind. It's also a fact that conservative-minded folks are more charitable than lefties are.

"Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals."

Who's More Charitable - Liberals or Conservatives?

To be honest, I don't really care about the answer to this question. But read this Kristof NY Times column, and see if you're convinced of the answer.

www.science20.com

Yeah...sure...

Yes, it's those who fail to produce, or produce very little. Hopefully this catches on is other churches. It's so obvious it should have happened sooner.

---Chief among the new doctrines is the idea that God rewards “seeding”—that is, the “sowing” of financial donations to churches, or favored online preachers—with a material harvest in return.---

The Evangelicals Calling for War on Poor People

A new, antisocial strain of the prosperity gospel is making its way into pulpits and breeding new hostility toward the least fortunate Americans.

newrepublic.com

 

[berg80]

How is left leaning policies "fact or science" based?

Yes, fact based. As in acknowledgement of climate science. Acknowledgement that voter fraud is statistically insignificant. Acknowledgement that a wall isn't going to solve the immigration crisis. Acknowledgement that gun possession makes one less, not more, safe from gun violence. Acknowledgement of history showing tax cuts do not lower deficits. Acknowledgement that homosexuality is not learned. Stuff like that.

 

[mamooth]

The 80'S Military buildup was the nail that broke the board. Deny all you want.

Nah. Soviet military spending was independent of American presidents.

90's new york improved vastly,

As the whole nation improved the same way.

And so craters that theory. All "Stop and Frisk" did was harrass minorities, which is why conservatives love it.

 

[jwoodie]

I believe unions are important to having a middle class. Republicans are anti union.

I believe we need to go Green

I like pro choice

Democrats are more the party that looks out for labor. Republicans say uneducated blue collar whites are only worth $15 hr. Can't live on that.

Democrats properly regulate industry. Look how they lowered drug prices. You're welcome.

Infrastructure spendng

They support/defend social security and medicare.

Boy did Trump prove Thom Hartmann right

"You Can't Govern if You Don't Believe in Government"

In a May 25, 2001 interview, Grover Norquist told National Public Radio's Mara Liasson, "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." Norquist got his wish.

www.thomhartmann.com

Your catchword reply is informative as it regards your feelings, but nearly devoid of any substance.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

That question can always go two ways. I think the inventions of the free market have been super beneficial to society, in general. Automobiles, Computers, Architecture, Crop Production, etc. I think lowering taxes gives the working class more buying power: Homes, Cars, Food, Utilities, etc.

But I'd really like to see you provide a list of Liberal policies that you believe would benefit the populace, as a whole.

OK, that's a fair ask. I don't look at it as a set of "ists". Just policy. And you do know that those advances came about because of liberal and progressive policies..not conservative ones?

So, policy?

1) Taxes. The 800LB gorilla in the room. For too long, the burden has been balanced on the backs of the people in the income middle.
2) SS and Medicare.
3) Affordable housing
4) Healthcare. Sorry, I'm with Bernie on this one. Other countries offer a nationalized plan. Why are we the only 1st world country that doesn't...or doesn't even have a handle on its runaway healthcare costs and insurance debacle.
5) The environment. I'm sorry, unless you'd like to be living in "Waterworld" or "Thunderdome", it has to be addressed.

Democrats are the only ones I see actually wanting to address these issues. Yes, a Democrat taxes and spends. Given and accepted. But a Republican (conservative) cuts taxes and then goes on a borrowing/spending spree that adds to the debt/deficit.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Because conservative policies, 1) Don't work (no success stories for over 4 decades), 2) Don't "conserve" anything. Not money. Not the environment. Not congenial relations between Americans.

1. WRONG. Both Reagan and Trump had massive conservative successes. Of course, since they fly right in the face of your leftist agenda, you consider them failures.

2) Don't "conserve" anything. Not money. Not the environment. Not congenial relations between Americans.
WRONG AGAIN. Conservatives want a balanced budget instead of your runaway deficit spending. There are just not enough of us in Congress to effect the change. Richard Nixon signed the Clean Air and Water Acts. And by congenial relationships, we don't care what you people do in the privacy of your bedrooms. It's when you try to shove your lifestyle on all of us and demand that you be accepted as normal then we have an issue.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

1. WRONG. Both Reagan and Trump had massive conservative successes. Of course, since they fly right in the face of your leftist agenda, you consider them failures.

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2) Don't "conserve" anything. Not money. Not the environment. Not congenial relations between Americans.
WRONG AGAIN. Conservatives want a balanced budget instead of your runaway deficit spending. There are just not enough of us in Congress to effect the change. Richard Nixon signed the Clean Air and Water Acts. And by congenial relationships, we don't care what you people do in the privacy of your bedrooms. It's when you try to shove your lifestyle on all of us and demand that you be accepted as normal then we have an issue.

Ugh..again with this list from campaign website.

These...are...NOT..Accomplishments.

Trump has ONE accomplishment to his administration. The First Step Act. That's it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Ugh..again with this list from campaign website.

These...are...NOT..Accomplishments.

Trump has ONE accomplishment to his administration. The First Step Act. That's it.

/——-/ And you can’t disprove one thing on the list.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

/——-/ And you can’t disprove one thing on the list.

I just did. Nothing on this "list" can be listed as an accomplishment.

Just some campaign staffer's wet dream.
Move along.

 

[sealybobo]

Your catchword reply is informative as it regards your feelings, but nearly devoid of any substance.

You've got to be kidding. He asked this and I believe I replied perfectly

generally speaking, what is it about the left's ideology or philosophy that appeals to you the most? List a few things that you truly believe the left has right as opposed to the counterpoints offered by the right.

 

[BluesLegend]

I still don't really know what motivates them to reach their conclusions.

Because they are blithering idiots.

 

[BluesLegend]

How is left leaning policies "fact or science" based?

Dems deny the science when it conflicts with their agenda. Things like the law, Constitution, science are only used by Dems when it supports their agenda, otherwise they ignore or deny these things.

 

[sealybobo]

Your catchword reply is informative as it regards your feelings, but nearly devoid of any substance.

How detailed do I need to go?

I don't believe in trickle down.

Here's the deal man. Get this through your skull. There will always be government intervention in the marketplace. All countries are run by governments and corporations have to abide by those countries regulations. This is good. The government should side with We The People. But Republicans don't side with the people. They always side with the rich.

And now we see why. We see Harlan Crow showering Clarence Thomas with gifts. And Clarence rules in favor of the rich and corporations every time.

Liberal judges are a great example of judges that rule in favor of We the People. Not Big Money Special Interests.

Liberals didn't pass Citizens United.

If you don't see the clear differences between the GOP and Democrats and if you don't favor the Democrats, you're either a rich son of a bitch or racist one. White racist. Of the poor and middle class Republicans are uneducated whites. That's Trump's base. Then there are the rich Republicans or RINO's who've always run your party until Trump.

BTW, Trump is a globalist deep state rino too. If they would have him. But he's uncooth.

 

[sealybobo]

Dems deny the science when it conflicts with their agenda. Things like the law, Constitution, science are only used by Dems when it supports their agenda, otherwise they ignore or deny these things.

The one very bad example you guys always use for this one is that we don't know a man is a man. You're such idiots.

 

[martybegan]

Nah. Soviet military spending was independent of American presidents.


As the whole nation improved the same way.

And so craters that theory. All "Stop and Frisk" did was harrass minorities, which is why conservatives love it.

They couldn't keep up, and Chernobyl was the nail in the coffin.

NY improved vastly more, and look at what happened after.

 

[ActionJackson]

Dems deny the science when it conflicts with their agenda. Things like the law, Constitution, science are only used by Dems when it supports their agenda, otherwise they ignore or deny these things.

 

[BluesLegend]

The one very bad example you guys always use for this one is that we don't know a man is a man. You're such idiots.

We have never discussed this, I assumed you are just trolling. I was wondering what that Dem festering stench was.