Putting aside the matter of an extension for the ACA tax credits, here's a question for trump devotees.

[Missouri_Mike]

That’s not true

You retarded ******* clown.

 

[dblack]

Hes breaking no rules. He has the power to do all that stuff and flip you libs the bird.

And what good does that do? Besides a bit of catharsis? He persuades no one, builds no consensus, establishes no lasting change, does nothing that won't simply be undone when Ds are back in power.

I get that it's satisfying to see him offending hypersensitive liberal nitwits. But it doesn't really improve anything. It doesn't unify the country or build a better government.

 

[Lesh]

You retarded ******* clown.

I was talking about the subsidies

They lower costs to consumers… not overall costs. Overall costs are down since the ACA passed

Clown

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And what good does that do? Besides a bit of catharsis? He persuades no one, builds no consensus, establishes no lasting change, does nothing that won't simply be undone when Ds are back in power.

I get that it's satisfying to see him offending hypersensitive liberal nitwits. But it doesn't really improve anything. It doesn't unify the country or build a better government.

Yeah, that's the problem with these worthless laws ie patriot act, ocare, inflation reduction act, act etc. The next president just comes in and expands on them and destroys and fleeces the country while filling their bank accounts. It's disgusting.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I was talking about the subsidies

They lower costs to consumers… not overall costs. Overall costs are down since the ACA passed

Clown

Over all costs are down but subsidies have to increase because… why then? Oh right because it’s more expensive, but the cost are down, and also higher, and people can’t afford these lower costs because… it’s gotten more expensive.

******* retard.

 

[Lesh]

Over all costs are down but subsidies have to increase because… why then? Oh right because it’s more expensive, but the cost are down, and also higher, and people can’t afford these lower costs because… it’s gotten more expensive.

******* retard.

Overall costs for healthcare are down since the ACA began

That’s fact

 

[Lesh]

Yeah, that's the problem with these worthless laws ie patriot act, ocare, inflation reduction act, act etc. The next president just comes in and expands on them and destroys and fleeces the country while filling their bank accounts. It's disgusting.

And where did we get the Patriot Act from?

That’s rkk in fht

Republicans

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And where did we get the Patriot Act from?

That’s rkk in fht

Republicans

Yeah, we got it from dubya. I was against it and his war.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Overall costs for healthcare are down since the ACA began

That’s fact

No it’s not you moron. That’s why the costs of insurance are so high.

 

[Lesh]

Yeah, we got it from dubya. I was against it and his war.

I remember Republicans on this board defending it

Nearly all of them

 

[JustAGuy1]

Trump has a plan, HSA.

Could you link the "Defying a congressional subpoena" source, I couldn't find it.

Who will fund the accounts?

 

[JustAGuy1]

That's an overt lie.

Nope, it's true. If you change a plan in any way it it must be re written and assigned a new policy number. The minute he signed it into he knew that the old plans were dead. Networks had to redone, formularies had to be reworked.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What has he done about the medical cost inflation that will, in part, cause premiums to jump so much?

ACA Insurers Are Raising Premiums by an Estimated 26%, but Most Enrollees Could See Sharper Increases in What They Pay​

ACA Insurers Are Raising Premiums by an Estimated 26%, but Most Enrollees Could See Sharper Increases in What They Pay

The amount health insurers charge for coverage on the ACA Marketplaces is rising 26%, on average, in 2026.... Most enrollees would face even sharper increases in what they pay if they ACA’s enhanced premium tax credits expire.

www.kff.org

Not that he hasn't been busy violating the Posse Comitatus Act, the War Powers Act, and having the DoJ refuse to comply with a subpoena for the Epstein files. And then there's golf.

But does he get a pass for doing nothing about something as impactful as the cost of health insurance?

King Trump will issue a decree that policies will cost 26% LESS

 

[Man With A Plan]

What has he done about the medical cost inflation that will, in part, cause premiums to jump so much?

ACA Insurers Are Raising Premiums by an Estimated 26%, but Most Enrollees Could See Sharper Increases in What They Pay​

ACA Insurers Are Raising Premiums by an Estimated 26%, but Most Enrollees Could See Sharper Increases in What They Pay

The amount health insurers charge for coverage on the ACA Marketplaces is rising 26%, on average, in 2026.... Most enrollees would face even sharper increases in what they pay if they ACA’s enhanced premium tax credits expire.

www.kff.org

Not that he hasn't been busy violating the Posse Comitatus Act, the War Powers Act, and having the DoJ refuse to comply with a subpoena for the Epstein files. And then there's golf.

But does he get a pass for doing nothing about something as impactful as the cost of health insurance?

You're of course referring to the health care system that you liberals gave us with ObamaCare? You're the ones who created this fiasco. You're the ones who lied to the American people about how it would work and what it would cost...but now you DEMAND that the GOP needs to fix it? What ever happened to the ACA "bending the curve", Berg?

 

[dudmuck]

Did the Grinch steal your x-mas presents too?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Please provide proof of that assertion.

This is a game you shouldn't be playing

Premier Silver

Combined Medical and Drug Deductible
$8,350
Individual
Combined Medical and Drug Deductible
$16,700
Family
https://www.healthmarkets.com/plans...er-silver-vision-adult-dental-99723MO0110014/
https://www.healthmarkets.com/plans/aca-health/missouri/kansas-city/

 

[berg80]

Nope, it's true. If you change a plan in any way it it must be re written and assigned a new policy number. The minute he signed it into he knew that the old plans were dead. Networks had to redone, formularies had to be reworked.

"Obamacare caused millions of people to lose their doctor, lose their plan, have much worse coverage,"

The policies that were cancelled were shitty, high deductible policies replaced with policies with better coverage.

 

[berg80]

Capitol agenda: House GOP at the Obamacare cliff​

House Republicans are set to mark their final session week of 2025 with a muddled health care message that’s poised to have a big impact — a nationwide spike in insurance costs after Obamacare subsidies expire in less than three weeks.

— The plan: GOP leaders are eyeing a Wednesday vote on a package of conservative-friendly health policies they released last Friday (Pro subscribers can read more of the specifics here).

The proposal — a narrowly-focused attempt at striking consensus in a divided GOP conference — doesn’t include an extension of Affordable Care Act tax credits that lapse on Dec. 31. Instead, leadership is expected to throw a bone to anxious rank-and-file members by giving them the chance to vote on an amendment that would continue the subsidies — a vote that’s almost guaranteed to fail.

“I expect people are going to have an opportunity to vote their conscience and then go defend their votes back home like we always do,” House Budget Chair Jodey Arrington (R-Texas) said.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/12/15/congress/house-republicans-obamacare-deadline-health-care-vote-00690377

That's the most cynical, deceitful thing I've seen from the POT in...............the last 24 hours.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Obamacare caused millions of people to lose their doctor, lose their plan, have much worse coverage,"

The policies that were cancelled were shitty, high deductible policies replaced with policies with better coverage.

It removed the option for people who wanted cheaper plans that didn't cover everything.
And made everything more expensive.

 

[JustAGuy1]

"Obamacare caused millions of people to lose their doctor, lose their plan, have much worse coverage,"

The policies that were cancelled were shitty, high deductible policies replaced with policies with better coverage.

Again, you're but I don't think you're smart enough to understand it. Policies are a legal contracts. if you change 1 thing on an existing plan it had to canceled and a new one had to be written and filed . Now, as to deductibles........

This is an ACA plan

Combined Medical and Drug Deductible
$8,350 This mean is an individual must pay 8350 before blue cross pays anything
Individual
Combined Medical and Drug Deductible
$16,700 Here is Family plan ded. In a nutshell you're wrong. I don't gloat ab this
Family
https://www.healthmarkets.com/plans...er-silver-vision-adult-dental-99723MO0110014/
https://www.healthmarkets.com/plans/aca-health/missouri/kansas-city/