starcraftzzz
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no according to politochick women are paid the same
pubs voted down paycheck fairness
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no according to politochick women are paid the same
Good.
Liberal social engineering.
Stuff like this keeps pushing me away from the Democrats.
WillowTree
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more women than men have lost their jobs under obummer,, and he just gave 800,000 of those jobs away to illegals.. go team
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The trite 'you libs' aside, this bill contained provisions there were not in the original act. Though I wish the rule that required 60 votes had not been invoked, there are arguments against this bill, apart from any 'war on women'.
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so you think discrimination is good... douche
starcraftzzz
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yep arguments like "women are inferior and men are better"
starcraftzzz
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actual those people are no longer illegals.. so go rightwing stupidity
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PoliticalChic
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Did you miss the math in the post?
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Ok, I guess I will take the lead then.... B )Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
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PredFan
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Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
Well that, as you well know, is against the law. Passing another law won't help that woman if the company isn't obeying the current laws and no one is reporting it.
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Hmmmm, so all one has to do is report this to the right people eh, and something could be done about it pronto is what yop are saying, and this would be in reagards to all women who are being abused in this respect, or is it that the current law is weak and doesn't go far enough on this issue ? Undoubtedly the current law is not effective enough (abuse still running rampant in the nation under such laws), or why would people be pushing for a stronger law that to suceed the current one ?
Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
Well that, as you well know, is against the law. Passing another law won't help that woman if the company isn't obeying the current laws and no one is reporting it.
Hmmmm or is it that it just depends on which administration is elected in or who is in charge, that determins the extensiveness or application of enforcement of the laws, and which one will not enforce the laws when in power as they should be enforced always as law that to be enforced when abuse is known or present under such laws ? Now this is the million dollar question in my honest opinion to be answered next, and answered correctly when answered.
Who enforces law better when in office, the democrats or the republicans ?
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PoliticalChic
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Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
1. "...but no one has reported it yet..."
That really obviates the example you give, since, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist.
2. Moreover, I believe that under discussion, it is the nationwide situation. As long as we are considering folks with equal jobs, equal resumes, equal time in, etc., men and women are paid equally....or, moreoften, women are earning more.
a. This may interest you:
"The Department of LaborÂ’s Time Use Survey, for example, finds that the average full-time working man spends 8.14 hours a day on the job, compared to 7.75 hours for the full-time working woman. Employees who work more likely earn more. Men working five percent longer than women alone explains about one-quarter of the wage gap.
There are numerous other factors that affect pay. Most fundamentally, men and women tend to gravitate toward different industries. Feminists may charge that women are socialized into lower-paying sectors of the economy. But women considering the decisions theyÂ’ve made likely have a different view. Women tend to seek jobs with regular hours, more comfortable conditions, little travel, and greater personal fulfillment. Often times, women are willing to trade higher pay for jobs with other characteristics that they find attractive.
Men, in contrast, often take jobs with less desirable characteristics in pursuit of higher pay. They work long hours and overnight shifts. They tar roofs in the sun, drive trucks across the country, toil in sewer systems, stand watch as prison guards, and risk injury on fishing boats, in coal mines, and in production plants. Such jobs pay more than others because otherwise no one would want to do them.
Academics can debate why men and women make these different choices. The important takeaway, however, is that there are many reasons that men and women on average earn different amounts. It’s a mistake to assume that “wage gap” statistics reflect on-the-job discrimination."
backdoorview
b. "... says Danielle Friedman in The Daily Beast, as women are outpacing men in the workforce and upending long-held gender roles. In fact, women make more than men in one-third of American households..."
Female super-earners: Bad for marriage? - The Week
Gremlin-USA
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No dummy, they are still illegals, obama gave the temporary amnesty from deportation, go back and do your homework before spouting incoherent mush
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Excuse me? Could you say that again in English. I don't speak bullshit.
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Well maybe this is an isolated case then, but according to some it is an epidemic in this nation.. I wonder where they are getting their information from ?
Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
1. "...but no one has reported it yet..."
That really obviates the example you give, since, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist.
2. Moreover, I believe that under discussion, it is the nationwide situation. As long as we are considering folks with equal jobs, equal resumes, equal time in, etc., men and women are paid equally....or, moreoften, women are earning more.
a. This may interest you:
"The Department of LaborÂ’s Time Use Survey, for example, finds that the average full-time working man spends 8.14 hours a day on the job, compared to 7.75 hours for the full-time working woman. Employees who work more likely earn more. Men working five percent longer than women alone explains about one-quarter of the wage gap.
There are numerous other factors that affect pay. Most fundamentally, men and women tend to gravitate toward different industries. Feminists may charge that women are socialized into lower-paying sectors of the economy. But women considering the decisions theyÂ’ve made likely have a different view. Women tend to seek jobs with regular hours, more comfortable conditions, little travel, and greater personal fulfillment. Often times, women are willing to trade higher pay for jobs with other characteristics that they find attractive.
Men, in contrast, often take jobs with less desirable characteristics in pursuit of higher pay. They work long hours and overnight shifts. They tar roofs in the sun, drive trucks across the country, toil in sewer systems, stand watch as prison guards, and risk injury on fishing boats, in coal mines, and in production plants. Such jobs pay more than others because otherwise no one would want to do them.
Academics can debate why men and women make these different choices. The important takeaway, however, is that there are many reasons that men and women on average earn different amounts. It’s a mistake to assume that “wage gap” statistics reflect on-the-job discrimination."
backdoorview
b. "... says Danielle Friedman in The Daily Beast, as women are outpacing men in the workforce and upending long-held gender roles. In fact, women make more than men in one-third of American households..."
Female super-earners: Bad for marriage? - The Week
Cecilie1200
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Well sadly they don't in many cases, where as right now there is a situation where I know of a woman who is doing a job at a corporate grocery store chain as a (book keeper), yet she is being under paid badly at this position in which she holds right now to this day, and she has been at this job for over ten years now altogether. She started as a part time cashier just helping out at night, while she did her full time job as book keeper for a large company prior to the failed economy back in 08 (held down both jobs). She then had to turn to this part time job, in order for it to then become her full time employer after being laid off from the old full time job in 08. Sadly what has also since been realized, is that this chain never hires a woman to be a manager of any of it's stores (only men). There is definitely discrimination present at this chain against women, but no one has reported it yet or even thinks that they could report it, in that it would even mean anything if they did. I really feel bad for situations like this, but it's out there people, and don't ever think that it isn't when it is.
IF she's being discriminated against - and that's a big IF - and she's not taking advantage of the anti-discrimination laws already in place, what makes you think she'd take advantage of a new law if one was passed? Seems to me if she just lies down and accepts it, it becomes HER fault that she's being treated badly.
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What they voted against was a ridiculous bill that would make it open season on employers for layers.
Women with equal experience and credentials already make the same as men, if not more. This bill would require employers to prove they are innocent. Only a Nazi liberal asshole would believe that has anything to do with justice.
bripat9643
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No dummy, they are still illegals, obama gave the temporary amnesty from deportation, go back and do your homework before spouting incoherent mush
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As soon as Obama loses his job, their amnesty will disappear.
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