Public sours on GOP tax plan as Democrats regain lead on economy

[OKTexas]

The new tax plan ...looks like it will be the issue that hangs incumbents out to dry, next election...

Poll: Public sours on GOP tax plan as Democrats regain lead on economy

"The tax plan that Republicans are soon expected to pass has grown more unpopular in the last two months, with nearly two-thirds of Americans believing it’s designed mostly to help corporations and the wealthy, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In addition, the survey finds that Democrats have overtaken Republicans on which party better handles the economy — their first lead on this question since 2013 and their largest since 2009.




But it also shows that Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, believe President Donald Trump’s approach has made the economy better rather than worse, which is one of the bright spots for the GOP in the poll.


“A president is getting credit for the economy improving and not deriving political value from it,” said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollsters from Hart Research Associates, referring to Trump’s 41 percent job-approval rating in the poll. “We are watching things we have not seen before in my career.”


According to the poll — which was conducted before the House and Senate voted on the tax bill — 24 percent of Americans say that the Trump-backed tax plan is a good idea, versus 41 percent who believe it’s a bad idea.


That’s an increase in unpopularity from October, when 35 percent said it was a bad idea, and 25 percent said it was a good idea.


In the current poll, 53 percent of Republicans and 57 percent of Trump general election voters give the tax plan a thumbs-up, while 67 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Hillary Clinton voters give it a thumbs-down.


Notably, just 28 percent of rural Americans and 29 percent of whites without a college degree — key parts of Trump’s 2016 base — say it’s a good idea.


“The GOP tax plan, theoretically, could motivate the base, but our poll finds that only 53 percent of Republicans think it is a good idea, while 67 percent of Democrats and a 45 percent plurality of independents say it is a bad idea,” said Fred Yang, a Democratic pollster with Hart Research Associates.


What’s more, the NBC/WSJ poll finds 63 percent of Americans who think the Trump tax plan was designed mostly to benefit corporations and the wealthy, compared with 22 percent who believe it was designed to help all Americans equally.


Just 7 percent say it was designed mostly to help the middle class.


And majorities in the poll say corporations and wealthier Americans will pay less in taxes if Trump’s tax plan becomes law, while a plurality — 37 percent — say middle-class Americans will pay more.


In fact, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center finds that only 5 percent of taxpayers would pay more in taxes by 2018 under the legislation, although that number grows to 53 percent by 2027 because many of the individual tax cuts expire after 2025.


By 2027, more than 80 percent of the legislation’s benefits go to the top 1 percent of taxpayers, the Tax Policy Center adds.


Democrats retake lead on handling of economy, taxes

The NBC/WSJ poll also shows Democrats regaining the advantage on which party better handles the economy and taxes.


Thirty-five percent of Americans say the Democratic Party does a better job on the economy, versus 30 percent who say the Republican Party does a better job.




That is the Democrats’ first lead on this question in the poll since February 2013 (right after Barack Obama’s second inauguration) and their largest advantage on the economy since July 2009 (months into Obama’s first year as president)."

Trump is doing better than Reagan did, he only had an 18% approval rating for his tax plan. But it got him reelected, didn't it?


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The Ds are terrified with good reason that the SALT provision will bankrupt the Blue Wall and other D strangleholds such as the MSM.

You mean the states that are less dependent on the federal government? Unlike those red states that need lots of federal money?

No States with high population densities. When you have one county in CA that has a higher population than many States of course they will pay more in. Politics have nothing to do with it, it's shear numbers.


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[radical right]

Trump is doing better than Reagan did, he only had an 18% approval rating for his tax plan. But it got him reelected, didn't it?


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In a Gallup survey taken in the days after Reagan signed his tax cuts into law on Aug. 13, 1981, 51 percent of Americans were in favor of it. ... A CBS News/New York Times survey conducted in the days after the bill passed Congress found 38 percent in favor and 34 percent opposed.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Polls are propaganda and used to try and shift public opinion.......they don't really represent accuracy any longer.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump is doing better than Reagan did, he only had an 18% approval rating for his tax plan. But it got him reelected, didn't it?


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In a Gallup survey taken in the days after Reagan signed his tax cuts into law on Aug. 13, 1981, 51 percent of Americans were in favor of it. ... A CBS News/New York Times survey conducted in the days after the bill passed Congress found 38 percent in favor and 34 percent opposed.

Ryan’s office cited one result from a September 1986 Gallup Poll: 18 percent said they thought their taxes would decrease under the plan.

But that question doesn’t tell everything about support or approval. More importantly, that poll was taken after the House-Senate conference committee had approved the 1986 bill. That step hadn’t yet occurred when Ryan made his statement about the current bill.

We found four polls taken before that stage in 1986, and two had results near Ryan’s 18 percent claim. ABC News/Washington Post polls conducted in June and September 1986 asked, “From what you have read or heard, do you favor or oppose this tax bill, or don’t you know enough about it to say?” Both times, 22 percent said they favored it and 15 percent opposed it.

PolitiFact: Some polls back Ryan claim on Reagan tax plan, some don’t


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[ScienceRocks]

Looking good for the democrats!!! Go democrats!!!

This tax plan is going to wake a lot of people up to how evil your party is republicans!

 

[KissMy]

Reagan 1981 Tax Cut, reduced the top marginal income tax rates from 70% to 50% and the bottom rate dropping from 14% to 11%. This act slashed estate taxes and trimmed taxes paid by business corporations by $150 billion over a five-year period. Additionally the tax rates were indexed for inflation, though the indexing was delayed until 1985.

It passed on August 4, 1981, and was signed into law on August 13, 1981, by President Ronald Reagan at his California ranch.

In the year after enactment of 1981 tax cut, the deficit ballooned, driving interest rates from around 12% to over 20%, crashing the economy into a worse second dip of the double dip recession" The Dow Jones average, which had been over 1000 before it's enactment, fell to 770 by September 1982. Much of the 1981 tax cut was backed out in September 1982 by the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), sometimes called the largest tax increase of the post-war period. The "Reagan recovery" began within weeks of enactment of TEFRA.

Tax Reform Act of 1986 (TRA) enacted October 22, 1986) to simplify the income tax code, broaden the tax base and eliminate many tax shelters. The bill was also officially sponsored by Democrats.

The Tax Reform Act of 1986 was given impetus by a detailed tax-simplification proposal from President Reagan's Treasury Department, and was designed to be tax-revenue neutral because Reagan stated that he would veto any bill that was not. Revenue neutrality was achieved by offsetting tax cuts for individuals by eliminating $60 billion annually in tax loopholes and shifting $24 billion of the tax burden from individuals to corporations by eliminating the investment tax credit, slowing depreciation of assets, and enacting a stiff alternative minimum tax on corporations.

This hit wallstreet fat cats causing the stock market crashed in 1987 Black Monday, but the economy & job creation continued to rise regardless of wallstreet.

 

[jknowgood]

Fuck the Polls.

Double Fuck an NBC Poll.

Wise up Bolsheviks---you are embarrassing yourselves.

You have a better way to assess how the public thinks?
Didn’t think so.

Yeah they were so right last year.

 

[jknowgood]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

After Obama the people don't care about debt, it seems.

 

[iceberg]

The new tax plan ...looks like it will be the issue that hangs incumbents out to dry, next election...

Poll: Public sours on GOP tax plan as Democrats regain lead on economy

"The tax plan that Republicans are soon expected to pass has grown more unpopular in the last two months, with nearly two-thirds of Americans believing it’s designed mostly to help corporations and the wealthy, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In addition, the survey finds that Democrats have overtaken Republicans on which party better handles the economy — their first lead on this question since 2013 and their largest since 2009.




But it also shows that Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, believe President Donald Trump’s approach has made the economy better rather than worse, which is one of the bright spots for the GOP in the poll.


“A president is getting credit for the economy improving and not deriving political value from it,” said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollsters from Hart Research Associates, referring to Trump’s 41 percent job-approval rating in the poll. “We are watching things we have not seen before in my career.”


According to the poll — which was conducted before the House and Senate voted on the tax bill — 24 percent of Americans say that the Trump-backed tax plan is a good idea, versus 41 percent who believe it’s a bad idea.


That’s an increase in unpopularity from October, when 35 percent said it was a bad idea, and 25 percent said it was a good idea.


In the current poll, 53 percent of Republicans and 57 percent of Trump general election voters give the tax plan a thumbs-up, while 67 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Hillary Clinton voters give it a thumbs-down.


Notably, just 28 percent of rural Americans and 29 percent of whites without a college degree — key parts of Trump’s 2016 base — say it’s a good idea.


“The GOP tax plan, theoretically, could motivate the base, but our poll finds that only 53 percent of Republicans think it is a good idea, while 67 percent of Democrats and a 45 percent plurality of independents say it is a bad idea,” said Fred Yang, a Democratic pollster with Hart Research Associates.


What’s more, the NBC/WSJ poll finds 63 percent of Americans who think the Trump tax plan was designed mostly to benefit corporations and the wealthy, compared with 22 percent who believe it was designed to help all Americans equally.


Just 7 percent say it was designed mostly to help the middle class.


And majorities in the poll say corporations and wealthier Americans will pay less in taxes if Trump’s tax plan becomes law, while a plurality — 37 percent — say middle-class Americans will pay more.


In fact, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center finds that only 5 percent of taxpayers would pay more in taxes by 2018 under the legislation, although that number grows to 53 percent by 2027 because many of the individual tax cuts expire after 2025.


By 2027, more than 80 percent of the legislation’s benefits go to the top 1 percent of taxpayers, the Tax Policy Center adds.


Democrats retake lead on handling of economy, taxes

The NBC/WSJ poll also shows Democrats regaining the advantage on which party better handles the economy and taxes.


Thirty-five percent of Americans say the Democratic Party does a better job on the economy, versus 30 percent who say the Republican Party does a better job.




That is the Democrats’ first lead on this question in the poll since February 2013 (right after Barack Obama’s second inauguration) and their largest advantage on the economy since July 2009 (months into Obama’s first year as president)."

ooo - NBC.

how odd. normally they support both sides so evenly.

 

[KissMy]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

After Obama the people don't care about debt, it seems.

Repubtards never cared about debt. Their whole goal is higher prices when they should be falling due to boomers conserving into retirement. Japan had 20 years of deflation that we will never see.

 

[Redfish]

Fuck the Polls.

Double Fuck an NBC Poll.

Wise up Bolsheviks---you are embarrassing yourselves.

You have a better way to assess how the public thinks?
Didn’t think so.

polls only work if the pollsters are honest and the sample is unbiased.

most polls today are not designed to portray public sentiment, they are designed to influence it. Said another way, the polls are a form of propaganda, and you have bought into it.

 

[Redfish]

The new tax plan ...looks like it will be the issue that hangs incumbents out to dry, next election...

Poll: Public sours on GOP tax plan as Democrats regain lead on economy

"The tax plan that Republicans are soon expected to pass has grown more unpopular in the last two months, with nearly two-thirds of Americans believing it’s designed mostly to help corporations and the wealthy, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In addition, the survey finds that Democrats have overtaken Republicans on which party better handles the economy — their first lead on this question since 2013 and their largest since 2009.




But it also shows that Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, believe President Donald Trump’s approach has made the economy better rather than worse, which is one of the bright spots for the GOP in the poll.


“A president is getting credit for the economy improving and not deriving political value from it,” said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollsters from Hart Research Associates, referring to Trump’s 41 percent job-approval rating in the poll. “We are watching things we have not seen before in my career.”


According to the poll — which was conducted before the House and Senate voted on the tax bill — 24 percent of Americans say that the Trump-backed tax plan is a good idea, versus 41 percent who believe it’s a bad idea.


That’s an increase in unpopularity from October, when 35 percent said it was a bad idea, and 25 percent said it was a good idea.


In the current poll, 53 percent of Republicans and 57 percent of Trump general election voters give the tax plan a thumbs-up, while 67 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Hillary Clinton voters give it a thumbs-down.


Notably, just 28 percent of rural Americans and 29 percent of whites without a college degree — key parts of Trump’s 2016 base — say it’s a good idea.


“The GOP tax plan, theoretically, could motivate the base, but our poll finds that only 53 percent of Republicans think it is a good idea, while 67 percent of Democrats and a 45 percent plurality of independents say it is a bad idea,” said Fred Yang, a Democratic pollster with Hart Research Associates.


What’s more, the NBC/WSJ poll finds 63 percent of Americans who think the Trump tax plan was designed mostly to benefit corporations and the wealthy, compared with 22 percent who believe it was designed to help all Americans equally.


Just 7 percent say it was designed mostly to help the middle class.


And majorities in the poll say corporations and wealthier Americans will pay less in taxes if Trump’s tax plan becomes law, while a plurality — 37 percent — say middle-class Americans will pay more.


In fact, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center finds that only 5 percent of taxpayers would pay more in taxes by 2018 under the legislation, although that number grows to 53 percent by 2027 because many of the individual tax cuts expire after 2025.


By 2027, more than 80 percent of the legislation’s benefits go to the top 1 percent of taxpayers, the Tax Policy Center adds.


Democrats retake lead on handling of economy, taxes

The NBC/WSJ poll also shows Democrats regaining the advantage on which party better handles the economy and taxes.


Thirty-five percent of Americans say the Democratic Party does a better job on the economy, versus 30 percent who say the Republican Party does a better job.




That is the Democrats’ first lead on this question in the poll since February 2013 (right after Barack Obama’s second inauguration) and their largest advantage on the economy since July 2009 (months into Obama’s first year as president)."

Trump is doing better than Reagan did, he only had an 18% approval rating for his tax plan. But it got him reelected, didn't it?


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The Dump has the lowest approval rating of any president after one year. And you idiots still can’t figure out why.

its you who cant figure out why--------------------------the pollsters are LYING to you, fool.

 

[iceberg]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

After Obama the people don't care about debt, it seems.

Repubtards never cared about debt. Their whole goal is higher prices when they should be falling due to boomers conserving into retirement. Japan had 20 years of deflation that we will never see.

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?

they all seem pretty spend happy if you ask me. however, we never hit "trillion" in 1 year until obama.

 

[KissMy]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

After Obama the people don't care about debt, it seems.

Repubtards never cared about debt. Their whole goal is higher prices when they should be falling due to boomers conserving into retirement. Japan had 20 years of deflation that we will never see.

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?

they all seem pretty spend happy if you ask me. however, we never hit "trillion" in 1 year until obama.

Obama didn't crash the economy or sign that huge spending increase. That was Bush disaster. Obama shrank the deficit ratio every year.

When Bush was elected, China's economy was smaller than Italy's, By the end of his term they were a global powerhouse and the EU surpassed the USA.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Fuck the Polls.

Double Fuck an NBC Poll.

Wise up Bolsheviks---you are embarrassing yourselves.

You have a better way to assess how the public thinks?
Didn’t think so.

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Another completely Dumb-Ass Post from another poorly educated half-wit Democrat.

Of course I have another way: First, an Election, and we have a fairly recent one--in which your New York Polls gave us the same Propaganda as we are getting right now.

Which of course leads to the second response. If you don't want the Citizens to promptly call "Horse Shit" on your bogus polls....try actually taking polls instead of putting out propaganda sold as a poll.

New York Media Polls have been really great for Liberals all during the time they were losing massive numbers in the State Legislatures, Governorships, House of Representatives, Senate, Presidency.

Why would anybody, even in New York...believe New York Media Polls....its like that Geico commercial where people like beating their heads against the wall, or getting a bad haircut.

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First, not a Democrat..idiot. Second, I post to inform and stimulate conversation..not because i always agree--although..in this case, having read the entire article..which most here will not..I do agree this is a bad idea..most Americans agree with me. Your knee-jerk comments..about the Poll..in no way address the results or the methodology.

I also take note of the retarded comments of some about how, since the polls got the Presidential election wrong..all polls are now and forever wrong..unless, of course, you agree with them..then they become Gospel. Opinion polls and predictive polls..are two different animals--but I'd not expect you to know the difference.

Idiot, brain-dead, alt/right inbreds. You are losing and you don't even see it. You have lost the culture wars--yet you natter on.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

Don't worry about debt, the dems will be pushing for all kinds of deficit spending in the upcoming budget negotiations.


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Why wouldn't they...the Republican's have shown them the way...voting for a stimulus when none was needed...and growing the deficit to the tune of well over a trillion dollars.

 

[iceberg]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

After Obama the people don't care about debt, it seems.

Repubtards never cared about debt. Their whole goal is higher prices when they should be falling due to boomers conserving into retirement. Japan had 20 years of deflation that we will never see.

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?

they all seem pretty spend happy if you ask me. however, we never hit "trillion" in 1 year until obama.

Obama didn't crash the economy or sign that huge spending increase. That was Bush disaster. Obama shrank the deficit ratio every year.

When Bush was elected, China's economy was smaller than Italy's, By the end of his term they were a global powerhouse and the EU surpassed the USA.

uh huh. what bullshit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Polls are propaganda and used to try and shift public opinion" is a false statement trying to shift public opinion.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wait a minute... didn't the POLLS say that Hitlery was going to win?

Yeah... I guess they did... are these the same kinda polls?

Guess so... it's like... "here, take a bite of this shit sandwich, I promise it's not like the last one."

The democrats are STUPID enough to believe that crap, everyone else isn't.

Wait for it...."But she won the popular vote!!!!!!!"

 

[OKTexas]

People will be watching the debt. If it increases as it probably will and they don't have much to show for a tax cut, we will be back to the Dems.

Don't worry about debt, the dems will be pushing for all kinds of deficit spending in the upcoming budget negotiations.


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Why wouldn't they...the Republican's have shown them the way...voting for a stimulus when none was needed...and growing the deficit to the tune of well over a trillion dollars.

Yeah, that's what the experts who are never right claim, the CBO is worse than the MSM on putting out BS.


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