Protesters Carrying Rifle Outside Obama Rally

[DiveCon]

What? Of course I could hear what was said. Every word of it. Not sure why YOU couldn't, but I certainly did.

sorry, but all i head were the two CNN talking heads

Well I heard the clip they played just fine, but I was talking about the video of the interview (not CNN). And the guy Sanchez was interviewing was the one who 'interviewed' the guy with the AR 15.

ah, you didnt post that one
so i have no idea
but those CNN guys didnt even know who he was

 

[hjmick]

Huh?

The point is that the woman is dressing sexy for a purpose --- to bring attention to themselves.

These men were carrying guns for a reason --- to draw attention to themselves.

So?

It goes back to the whole "they were there to make a statement" argument.

But not to intimidate, as has been widely argued in this and other threads.

Now, if someone was intimidated by the presence of the guns, I would argue that this is their problem, not the problem of the gun owners. Of course, I also believe that no one can make you feel guilty except you.

 

[DiveCon]

You are the one that played the race game dumb ass. And by the way, remind us how it was ok for Union Thugs to beat a black Conservative.

Really?

I'm just stating the facts sir.

Ask Harold Ford, Jr. about the GOPs dirty habit of playing race politics.

Tennessee ad ignites GOP squabbling - Politics- msnbc.com

PERRspectives: The GOP Plays the Race Card in Tennessee

Why do you think that the White, Southern, Male has such a bad name and stereotype today...you think it came out of thin air?

HOLY SHIT
that was 3 years ago
and the ad wasnt racist
it was more sexist, if you ask me

 

[Emma]

sorry, but all i head were the two CNN talking heads

Well I heard the clip they played just fine, but I was talking about the video of the interview (not CNN). And the guy Sanchez was interviewing was the one who 'interviewed' the guy with the AR 15.

ah, you didnt post that one
so i have no idea
but those CNN guys didnt even know who he was

?

Sanchez did.

Anywho, I thought the video was posted earlier on this thread.

 

[Article 15]

So?

It goes back to the whole "they were there to make a statement" argument.

But not to intimidate, as has been widely argued in this and other threads.

Now, if someone was intimidated by the presence of the guns, I would argue that this is their problem, not the problem of the gun owners. Of course, I also believe that no one can make you feel guilty except you.

Maybe, maybe not.

"Walk softly but carry a big stick."

In a crowd unarmed civilians a gun is a pretty big stick.

Just sayin'

 

[Article 15]

You are the one that played the race game dumb ass. And by the way, remind us how it was ok for Union Thugs to beat a black Conservative.

Really?

I'm just stating the facts sir.

Ask Harold Ford, Jr. about the GOPs dirty habit of playing race politics.

Tennessee ad ignites GOP squabbling - Politics- msnbc.com

PERRspectives: The GOP Plays the Race Card in Tennessee

Why do you think that the White, Southern, Male has such a bad name and stereotype today...you think it came out of thin air?

HOLY SHIT
that was 3 years ago
and the ad wasnt racist
it was more sexist, if you ask me

Oh that ad was very racist, my friend.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Let me get this straight, if someone stages an interview it is fake? So all the Presidents speeches are fake?

 

[DiveCon]

Really?

I'm just stating the facts sir.

Ask Harold Ford, Jr. about the GOPs dirty habit of playing race politics.

Tennessee ad ignites GOP squabbling - Politics- msnbc.com

PERRspectives: The GOP Plays the Race Card in Tennessee

Why do you think that the White, Southern, Male has such a bad name and stereotype today...you think it came out of thin air?

HOLY SHIT
that was 3 years ago
and the ad wasnt racist
it was more sexist, if you ask me

Oh that ad was very racist, my friend.

naw
i didnt think so then, and i dont think so now
sexist, yeah, racist, no

 

[DiveCon]

Let me get this straight, if someone stages an interview it is fake? So all the Presidents speeches are fake?

must be
and he stages a lot of them

 

[Article 15]

Let me get this straight, if someone stages an interview it is fake? So all the Presidents speeches are fake?

Spoon fed interview vs. a speech from a POTUS.

Excellent comparison.

 

[Emma]

BTW, Hancock plays it cool with Sanchez... admits he has known the man for 2 years and this was staged... but on his website he continues the ruse:

Chris B. (Black man with an AR-15 at Obama appearance in Phoenix Monday the 17th of August) will join Ernest for 2 hours on the show. Who is this man?... and why did he say on the local news that he "hates" Obama? We need to get the answers,... while we still can.

"Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" - August 18th 2009



Ernest Hancock, the online radio host who staged an interview with an assault rifle-wielding associate at the Obama event in Arizona yesterday -- and was himself armed with a 9 millimeter pistol -- was a vocal supporter and friend of right-wing anti-government militia members who were convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges in the 90s.
And in an interview today with TPMmuckraker, Hancock said he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactured" by the same government that manufactured Waco and lied to its people about 9/11.

The federal government initially accused the Arizona Viper Militia of plotting to blow up federal buildings, which the twelve-member group cased on videotape.

In July 1996, after a grand jury indicted the suspects, federal agents "seized about 90 high-powered rifles and hundreds of pounds of a bomb-making compound from the shabby bungalow of a man whom officials identified as the ordnance specialist of a local paramilitary group," the New York Times reported at the time.

Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker

Nice guy.

Here's the video, dive:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63GiXzpfGhA]YouTube - 4409 -- Brother carries AR-15 Rifle at Obamabot Rally[/ame]

"You're taking that down there to Obama? You gonna water the tree of liberty?"

"What are you doing here? .... Gonna spank some Obama?" "Yes, we are."

Nah. Not intimidating.

 

[DiveCon]

BTW, Hancock plays it cool with Sanchez... admits he has known the man for 2 years and this was staged... but on his website he continues the ruse:

Chris B. (Black man with an AR-15 at Obama appearance in Phoenix Monday the 17th of August) will join Ernest for 2 hours on the show. Who is this man?... and why did he say on the local news that he "hates" Obama? We need to get the answers,... while we still can.

"Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" - August 18th 2009



Ernest Hancock, the online radio host who staged an interview with an assault rifle-wielding associate at the Obama event in Arizona yesterday -- and was himself armed with a 9 millimeter pistol -- was a vocal supporter and friend of right-wing anti-government militia members who were convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges in the 90s.
And in an interview today with TPMmuckraker, Hancock said he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactured" by the same government that manufactured Waco and lied to its people about 9/11.

The federal government initially accused the Arizona Viper Militia of plotting to blow up federal buildings, which the twelve-member group cased on videotape.

In July 1996, after a grand jury indicted the suspects, federal agents "seized about 90 high-powered rifles and hundreds of pounds of a bomb-making compound from the shabby bungalow of a man whom officials identified as the ordnance specialist of a local paramilitary group," the New York Times reported at the time.

Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker

Nice guy.

Here's the video, dive:

YouTube - 4409 -- Brother carries AR-15 Rifle at Obamabot Rally

"You're taking that down there to Obama? You gonna water the tree of liberty?"

"What are you doing here? .... Gonna spank some Obama?" "Yes, we are."

Nah. Not intimidating.

sure looked to me like he was not a fake and that he really believed what he was saying
the hancock guy clearly couldnt believe what he was hearing
but the black guy didnt seem like he was fake at all

 

[MarcATL]

HOLY SHIT
that was 3 years ago
and the ad wasnt racist
it was more sexist, if you ask me

Yes, when there was voting going on...3 years ago.

And I didn't ASK you if it was racist or not, as I don't EXPECT you to see it for what it is.

All reports say it was racist, anyone with an OUNCE of sense could recoginze it as racist.

It worked, Harold lost and it was largley due to that racist ad and many similar racist attacks.

They tried it with Obama...its called Southern Tactics. They failed.

Only a die-hard Far-Rightwing Nut like yourself would be so blind as to not see it for what it is.

I've got you pegged Con, and I'm not impressed. Not impressed at all.

 

[MarcATL]

Watching Red Eye now on FAUX and they showed some clips of the fake interview.

The dude was clearly acting. and even the hosts are admitting it and laughing about it.

The dude says he's almost ALWAYS armed...even in the shower.

Who is going to insist that it wasn't the most staged and contrived piece of entertainment ever?

 

[DiveCon]

HOLY SHIT
that was 3 years ago
and the ad wasnt racist
it was more sexist, if you ask me

Yes, when there was voting going on...3 years ago.

And I didn't ASK you if it was racist or not, as I don't EXPECT you to see it for what it is.

All reports say it was racist, anyone with an OUNCE of sense could recoginze it as racist.

It worked, Harold lost and it was largley due to that racist ad and many similar racist attacks.

They tried it with Obama...its called Southern Tactics. They failed.

Only a die-hard Far-Rightwing Nut like yourself would be so blind as to not see it for what it is.

I've got you pegged Con, and I'm not impressed. Not impressed at all.

youn are an asshole
LOL you've got NOTHING pegged

 

[Emma]

BTW, Hancock plays it cool with Sanchez... admits he has known the man for 2 years and this was staged... but on his website he continues the ruse:

Chris B. (Black man with an AR-15 at Obama appearance in Phoenix Monday the 17th of August) will join Ernest for 2 hours on the show. Who is this man?... and why did he say on the local news that he "hates" Obama? We need to get the answers,... while we still can.

"Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" - August 18th 2009



Ernest Hancock, the online radio host who staged an interview with an assault rifle-wielding associate at the Obama event in Arizona yesterday -- and was himself armed with a 9 millimeter pistol -- was a vocal supporter and friend of right-wing anti-government militia members who were convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges in the 90s.
And in an interview today with TPMmuckraker, Hancock said he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactured" by the same government that manufactured Waco and lied to its people about 9/11.

The federal government initially accused the Arizona Viper Militia of plotting to blow up federal buildings, which the twelve-member group cased on videotape.

In July 1996, after a grand jury indicted the suspects, federal agents "seized about 90 high-powered rifles and hundreds of pounds of a bomb-making compound from the shabby bungalow of a man whom officials identified as the ordnance specialist of a local paramilitary group," the New York Times reported at the time.

Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker

Nice guy.

Here's the video, dive:

YouTube - 4409 -- Brother carries AR-15 Rifle at Obamabot Rally

"You're taking that down there to Obama? You gonna water the tree of liberty?"

"What are you doing here? .... Gonna spank some Obama?" "Yes, we are."

Nah. Not intimidating.

sure looked to me like he was not a fake and that he really believed what he was saying
the hancock guy clearly couldnt believe what he was hearing
but the black guy didnt seem like he was fake at all

You know damned well what he meant by "fake interview".

 

[DiveCon]

BTW, Hancock plays it cool with Sanchez... admits he has known the man for 2 years and this was staged... but on his website he continues the ruse:

Chris B. (Black man with an AR-15 at Obama appearance in Phoenix Monday the 17th of August) will join Ernest for 2 hours on the show. Who is this man?... and why did he say on the local news that he "hates" Obama? We need to get the answers,... while we still can.

"Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" - August 18th 2009



Ernest Hancock, the online radio host who staged an interview with an assault rifle-wielding associate at the Obama event in Arizona yesterday -- and was himself armed with a 9 millimeter pistol -- was a vocal supporter and friend of right-wing anti-government militia members who were convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges in the 90s.
And in an interview today with TPMmuckraker, Hancock said he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactured" by the same government that manufactured Waco and lied to its people about 9/11.

The federal government initially accused the Arizona Viper Militia of plotting to blow up federal buildings, which the twelve-member group cased on videotape.

In July 1996, after a grand jury indicted the suspects, federal agents "seized about 90 high-powered rifles and hundreds of pounds of a bomb-making compound from the shabby bungalow of a man whom officials identified as the ordnance specialist of a local paramilitary group," the New York Times reported at the time.

Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker

Nice guy.

Here's the video, dive:

YouTube - 4409 -- Brother carries AR-15 Rifle at Obamabot Rally

"You're taking that down there to Obama? You gonna water the tree of liberty?"

"What are you doing here? .... Gonna spank some Obama?" "Yes, we are."

Nah. Not intimidating.

sure looked to me like he was not a fake and that he really believed what he was saying
the hancock guy clearly couldnt believe what he was hearing
but the black guy didnt seem like he was fake at all

You know damned well what he meant by "fake interview".

yeah, he meant the black guy didnt really mean what he said

thats racist

 

[DiveCon]

Watching Red Eye now on FAUX and they showed some clips of the fake interview.

The dude was clearly acting. and even the hosts are admitting it and laughing about it.

The dude says he's almost ALWAYS armed...even in the shower.

Who is going to insist that it wasn't the most staged and contrived piece of entertainment ever?

um, you watch redeye?

 

[MarcATL]

I watch FAUX all the time...daily.

Gotta know how the enemy thinks.

I've seen just about every show on the FAUX line-up, including weekend shows like Geraldo and Huckabee. So I understand the Neo-Con mindset and strategy quite well.

Can you say the same for say...MSNBC?

 

[Emma]

sure looked to me like he was not a fake and that he really believed what he was saying
the hancock guy clearly couldnt believe what he was hearing
but the black guy didnt seem like he was fake at all

You know damned well what he meant by "fake interview".

yeah, he meant the black guy didnt really mean what he said

thats racist

I didn't take his posts to say that at all. He said it was staged and a fake interview... which it was... YOU accused him of making the black man a 'token'.