Prosperity or Riots?

[theDoctorisIn]

The OWS is just the first sign that the masses (99%) are getting very angry at the wealthy. This is just a wild guess, but it seems very likely that because the wealthy moved 5.5m manufacturing jobs overseas, as well as outsourcing millions of other non-manufacturing jobs, that the masses will not go quietly into the night.
Call it "Class Warfare" or Class Envy, or Capitalism, or whatever you want, but when there are no jobs, people get angry. They will hold their pols accountable. It will be very interesting to see the cross-voting patterns of 2012, and what gets cut, "entitlements" or "defense" or if they finally go after closing tax loop-holes.

Once Barack Obama--the biggest threat to business growth in this country-- is gone--this economy will explode.

“I’m saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, progress and job creation in my lifetime. A lot of people don’t want to say that. They’ll say, ‘Oh God, don’t be attacking Obama.’ Well, this is Obama’s deal, and it’s Obama that’s responsible for this fear in America.”

“The guy [Obama] keeps making speeches about redistribution, and maybe ‘we ought to do something to businesses that don’t invest or hold too much money.’ We haven’t heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists.”

“Business is being hammered. The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the president of the United States. Until he’s gone, everybody’s going to be sitting on their thumbs.”

Steve Wynn--of Wynn's resort and Casino- Las Vegas, Nevada-DEMOCRAT and strong supporter of democrat senate leader Harry Reid.

Steve Wynn's Anti-Obama Rant - Is He Right? | BNET

Steve Wynn is not a Democrat.

He's very much a Republican. He donated nearly a $100 grand to the RNC, the RSCC, and the RCCC this year.

 

[Cuyo]

Not the last 30 years, but the last 3 years! Just since obama was immaculated. No one wants to say that though. The trillions of dollars in bailouts, the instability, over taxation, overregulation, all since obama.

Your an idiot, at least get your facts straight
1) bailouts happened under bush
2)instability, ok this can be credited to Obama
3) over taxation - by over taxation you mean how not a single tax was raised, but how temporary tax breaks were extended (bush taxes) and tons of other temporary tax breaks were given (i.e. 280B of the stimulus, making work pay, the decrease in social security withholdings etc...) so you are suggesting temporary tax break means over taxation ?
4)overregulation - true to a point, but most regulation was in place long before he took office.

Instability credited to Obama?

The whole GLOBE was in fucking free-fall when he took office!

It amazes me how easy people are finding it to forget that little nugget.

 

[Cuyo]

Something will happen, that's for sure. It ain't gonna continue the way it's been going for the last 30 years. It will reach a tipping point. What you're seeing all over the world with OWS is a survival mechanism on a very fundamental, biological level.

Hopefully our 'leaders' will get their heads about themselves and find a middle ground before this shit gets real ugly...

Face it YOU subscribe to anarchy.

Class revolution will be the result. Like I said, it's a survival mechanism.

 

[techieny]

There are enough miscreants on the dole in this country. Dog know we don't need anymore!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wow, just WOW! Looks like the flavor of the week is a shill put forth by the Koch Brothers (aka: kockroaches) to move their agenda forward. What agenda the curious ask, the agenda to make the rich richer and to keep the rest of us 'in our place'.

Long ties to Koch brothers key to Cain's campaign

and,

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wx80hJGDUE]Koch Brothers Fund Herman Cain - YouTube[/ame]

Graveyards everywhere are filled with American patriots who gave their lives for our Republic. Think about their sacrifice when you vote. A vote for Cain is a vote to end The Republic and what it stands for, and to move further down the road to a Plutocracy. Aligned with fundamentalist Christians, we are at risk of devolving into a theocratic oligarchy where the laws are made by the rich and enforced by the clergy. It can happen here.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

While all these things have happened, they have happened at the design of democrat policies and they should take full responsibility and blame.

How quickly (and, conveniently) you Teabaggers have forgotten.....

.....democrat policies.....

.....back, before "conservatives" had the opportunity to keep shouting "NO!!" to our first BLACK-President.



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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvBdlD7xUk]Rachel Maddow: Fox News To White People: Be Very Afraid! Black People Are Coming To Get You! Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[California Girl]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

^^^ This.

 

[Sallow]

Something will happen, that's for sure. It ain't gonna continue the way it's been going for the last 30 years. It will reach a tipping point. What you're seeing all over the world with OWS is a survival mechanism on a very fundamental, biological level.

Hopefully our 'leaders' will get their heads about themselves and find a middle ground before this shit gets real ugly...

Exactly right.

Humans form society for some very basic and fundamental reasons. One being that as a collective unit, survival and thriving as a species becomes less of a chore. But once the allocation of resources becomes an issue, then events like these are likely to follow.

 

[Full-Auto]

Something will happen, that's for sure. It ain't gonna continue the way it's been going for the last 30 years. It will reach a tipping point. What you're seeing all over the world with OWS is a survival mechanism on a very fundamental, biological level.

Hopefully our 'leaders' will get their heads about themselves and find a middle ground before this shit gets real ugly...

Exactly right.

Humans form society for some very basic and fundamental reasons. One being that as a collective unit, survival and thriving as a species becomes less of a chore. But once the allocation of resources becomes an issue, then events like these are likely to follow.

This appears to be nothing more then another WTO protest.

 

[kyzr]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

Speaking about diseases how about unions' added costs such as crazy work rules, lavish pensions, high wages, etc. The right-to-work states will prosper before the heavy unionized states.

 

[Sallow]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

Yes and no.

Yes it's a part of the problem..no it isn't the beginning and end of it.

 

[Contumacious]

Something will happen, that's for sure. It ain't gonna continue the way it's been going for the last 30 years. It will reach a tipping point. What you're seeing all over the world with OWS is a survival mechanism on a very fundamental, biological level.

Hopefully our 'leaders' will get their heads about themselves and find a middle ground before this shit gets real ugly...

Exactly right.

Humans form society for some very basic and fundamental reasons. One being that as a collective unit, survival and thriving as a species becomes less of a chore. But once the allocation of resources becomes an issue, then events like these are likely to follow.

Do you mean , like when they find out that the welfare/warfare state allows them to "legally" engage in parasitism?

.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

Yes and no.

Yes it's a part of the problem..no it isn't the beginning and end of it.

Who said it was the beginning and the end of it.
I said wealthy people moving jobs overseas is a reaction to consumer demand for lower prices. Some are doing it for shear survival in a hyper-competitive market - others are doing it to maintain high profits. Regardless, businesses react to consumers - not the other way around.
if suddenly - instead of camping out in a downtown park - there was a major movement where people started buying American made products - I absolutely GUARANTEE that businesses would react.

Consumers effect the economy more than anyone else - we are the proverbial tail that wags the dog.
You want to effect change - start with what YOU can change rather than expecting things to change because you say it should.
Actions speak louder than words and all.

 

[Katzndogz]

Restore stability in the markets and you will see an immediate reaction.

 

[Sallow]

Something will happen, that's for sure. It ain't gonna continue the way it's been going for the last 30 years. It will reach a tipping point. What you're seeing all over the world with OWS is a survival mechanism on a very fundamental, biological level.

Hopefully our 'leaders' will get their heads about themselves and find a middle ground before this shit gets real ugly...

Exactly right.

Humans form society for some very basic and fundamental reasons. One being that as a collective unit, survival and thriving as a species becomes less of a chore. But once the allocation of resources becomes an issue, then events like these are likely to follow.

Do you mean , like when they find out that the welfare/warfare state allows them to "legally" engage in parasitism?

.

When you attribute humans to parasites..the conversation is essentially over.

Humans are not parasites.

 

[Sallow]

Restore stability in the markets and you will see an immediate reaction.

What markets are you talking about?

 

[Sallow]

The wealthy didn't move jobs overseas.
Consumers consistently choosing the lowest price products drove jobs overseas.

Once again - people look at the symptoms and not the disease.

Yes and no.

Yes it's a part of the problem..no it isn't the beginning and end of it.

Who said it was the beginning and the end of it.
I said wealthy people moving jobs overseas is a reaction to consumer demand for lower prices. Some are doing it for shear survival in a hyper-competitive market - others are doing it to maintain high profits. Regardless, businesses react to consumers - not the other way around.
if suddenly - instead of camping out in a downtown park - there was a major movement where people started buying American made products - I absolutely GUARANTEE that businesses would react.

Consumers effect the economy more than anyone else - we are the proverbial tail that wags the dog.
You want to effect change - start with what YOU can change rather than expecting things to change because you say it should.
Actions speak louder than words and all.

That's not completely correct. And they aren't doing it for "survival". They are doing it for greed.

Most big corporations are making historic profits. What is happening now is a numbers game. It isn't about sustainability..it's about chasing dollars.

That has to change.

 

[Katzndogz]

Yes and no.

Yes it's a part of the problem..no it isn't the beginning and end of it.

Who said it was the beginning and the end of it.
I said wealthy people moving jobs overseas is a reaction to consumer demand for lower prices. Some are doing it for shear survival in a hyper-competitive market - others are doing it to maintain high profits. Regardless, businesses react to consumers - not the other way around.
if suddenly - instead of camping out in a downtown park - there was a major movement where people started buying American made products - I absolutely GUARANTEE that businesses would react.

Consumers effect the economy more than anyone else - we are the proverbial tail that wags the dog.
You want to effect change - start with what YOU can change rather than expecting things to change because you say it should.
Actions speak louder than words and all.

That's not completely correct. And they aren't doing it for "survival". They are doing it for greed.

Most big corporations are making historic profits. What is happening now is a numbers game. It isn't about sustainability..it's about chasing dollars.

That has to change.

How would you MAKE it change?

You can't.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Who said it was the beginning and the end of it.
I said wealthy people moving jobs overseas is a reaction to consumer demand for lower prices. Some are doing it for shear survival in a hyper-competitive market - others are doing it to maintain high profits. Regardless, businesses react to consumers - not the other way around.
if suddenly - instead of camping out in a downtown park - there was a major movement where people started buying American made products - I absolutely GUARANTEE that businesses would react.

Consumers effect the economy more than anyone else - we are the proverbial tail that wags the dog.
You want to effect change - start with what YOU can change rather than expecting things to change because you say it should.
Actions speak louder than words and all.

That's not completely correct. And they aren't doing it for "survival". They are doing it for greed.

Most big corporations are making historic profits. What is happening now is a numbers game. It isn't about sustainability..it's about chasing dollars.

That has to change.

How would you MAKE it change?

You can't.

And as long as sheeple think like this - nothing will.