Proof of AGW fraud

[Frannie]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

You are aware that Scientists DID in fact write emails about LYING to the public about supposed man made global warming? That those emails exist and are real?

You are aware that the Hockey Stick graph was proven to be false it ignored several major events and had false misleading information in it? That everyone with half a brain agrees that it is discredited and false?

You are aware that AL Gore has been caught lying, misleading and falsifying information on global warming? That he uses resources of something like 30 people all by himself?

The hockey stick graph ignores an entire ice age

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

 

[Rigby5]

Global Warming is like a splinter in your ass that you can't reach and get out yourself. It's mainly just irritating and generally harmless, and if you are patient, it will simply be dissolved by your body's own defenses.

The only reason The Global Warming Nonsense is still being promoted is because it is big money for people like Al Gore and the Fake Carbon Credit Business, and other hucksters and charlatans and snake oil salesman in academia and government.

Man cannot raise the average temperature of The Earth even by one degree. But the Earth can all on its own decide to plunge itself in to an Ice Age, or go through a warming trend to bring itself out of an Ice Age.

That is mostly dependent on solar activity or the lack of solar activity, and uncontrollable things like meteorites hitting The Earth and other natural disasters.

Talk about Global Warming when you know True Science is like a splinter in your ass. The Splinter does not and should not dictate to the entire body what to do, what actions to take, or what to think. Either you pull the splinter or just ignore it until it goes away.

That is a ridiculous lie.
No academic gets hired based on his AGW views.
Carbon credits was a zero cost transaction idea to get more foreign trade back to the US, by giving 3rd world countries an incentive to rent the ability of the US to do manufacturing cleaner than they could themselves.
No money is ever charged for carbon credits, and it was a totally voluntary system proposal, that never happened.
There was never any profit to be made from stopping AGW or carbon credits.
Anyone who claims there was, is just lying.

Only an idiot would claim humans can not raise the temperature of the eartch by 1 degree because humans are on record for increasing it by 3 degrees already. We have increased the carbon in the atmosphere by over 40%, by burning fossil fuel that took hundreds of millions of years to accumulate. That is over 5 trillion tons a year. It is impossible for that NOT to have a huge increase in retained global heat. It is essentially terrafoming, but in a negative way. And clearly lots of studies have proved that terraforming is absolutely possible.

Sure there are natural ice ages and climate changes, but they either take over 120 thousand years for a cycle, or are from big events like comet strikes. Humans clearly are making changes thousands of times faster than normal ice age cycles, and almost to the speed of a comet strike.

 

[Rigby5]

There is no one reputable that disputes AGW.
It simply is scientific fact, we have increased CO2 in the atmosphere by about 40% and CO2 prevent some heat from radiating back out into space.
It is absolute fact.
And anyone who remembers the USS Natilus traveling under the Arctic ice in the summer of 1958, will remember that until 2007 the whole Arctic Ocean was impossible to traverse, due to ice. Now you can. In 2007 was the first time you could do that in 10,000 years.

Sorry, turd, but your claims are not facts, and plenty of credible people dispute the Chicken Little theory of AGW.

Who and how?
There is absolutely no question global warming is happening. The Northwest Passage opening for the first time in 10,000 years is proof enough of that.
So are you saying that is part of some natural cycle, even though we know that the natural ice age cycle is more like 120 thousand years long?
You are making no sense and giving no details to claims that look pretty silly on their own.

 

[bripat9643]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

How ******* stupid are Deniers?

"People say" is proof?

People say Elvis is alive.

It wasn't "people say," moron. Their emails were published. That's what Climategate is all about.

Yres there were e0mail. E-mails you evidently can not interpret. Climategate was debunked.

Wrong. There were some sleazy attempts to white wash it, but only the gullible were fooled.

Yep, you are the gullible.

Data can need adjusted so it can be blended with other data.

For example, the unemployment rate is seasonally adjusted. Better start running down the street & screaming "OMG OMG OMG" to that one.

The data was "homogenized" so the cult could lie about it. They were caught doing it and talking about it in their emails. What do you imagine "hide the decline" refers to?

 

[Rigby5]

You are aware that Scientists DID in fact write emails about LYING to the public about supposed man made global warming?

What's the public's email address? I'd like to write an email to the public. Slow drivers in the left lane has been bothering me for years.

He didn't say they wrote emails to the public, you astounding dumb ****. They wrote emails to each other about the lies they were telling the public, and they were caught.

Except that no one has ever found any lies and been able to show them.
You can try to lie by taking emails out of context, but other scientists can do the research and prove you are wrong and there are no lies in the emails by scientests. They not only have no motive to lie, but with science you can't lie because you will always get caught. Science always has to face peer review that exposes any lies. No mistakes on AGW science has ever been revealed.

 

[Rigby5]

There is no one reputable that disputes AGW.
It simply is scientific fact, we have increased CO2 in the atmosphere by about 40% and CO2 prevent some heat from radiating back out into space.
It is absolute fact.
And anyone who remembers the USS Natilus traveling under the Arctic ice in the summer of 1958, will remember that until 2007 the whole Arctic Ocean was impossible to traverse, due to ice. Now you can. In 2007 was the first time you could do that in 10,000 years.

This too is a lie. You're not doing well.

So are you really trying to claim that there was a Northwest Passage for easy traversal of shipping over the Arctic Ocean in the 10,000 years before 2007?
That would have to be the single biggest lie I have ever heard anyone ever claim!

 

[Rigby5]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

Not even a link to some bullshit right wing website?

Pathetic.


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OOHPOOPAHDOO was doing satire.
The argument as deliberately pathetic, generalized, and without any link or substance.

 

[Rigby5]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

How ******* stupid are Deniers?

"People say" is proof?

People say Elvis is alive.

It wasn't "people say," moron. Their emails were published. That's what Climategate is all about.

Yres there were e0mail. E-mails you evidently can not interpret. Climategate was debunked.

Wrong. There were some sleazy attempts to white wash it, but only the gullible were fooled.

FactCheck.org says you are totally wrong over a decade ago.
Time for you to move on to something that has not already been so completely debunked.

{...
In late November 2009, more than 1,000 e-mails between scientists at the Climate Research Unit of the U.K.’s University of East Anglia were stolen and made public by an as-yet-unnamed hacker. Climate skeptics are claiming that they show scientific misconduct that amounts to the complete fabrication of man-made global warming. We find that to be unfounded:

• The messages, which span 13 years, show a few scientists in a bad light, being rude or dismissive. An investigation is underway, but there’s still plenty of evidence that the earth is getting warmer and that humans are largely responsible.
• Some critics say the e-mails negate the conclusions of a 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, but the IPCC report relied on data from a large number of sources, of which CRU was only one.
• E-mails being cited as “smoking guns” have been misrepresented. For instance, one e-mail that refers to “hiding the decline” isn’t talking about a decline in actual temperatures as measured at weather stations. These have continued to rise, and 2009 may turn out to be the fifth warmest year ever recorded. The “decline” actually refers to a problem with recent data from tree rings.

...}
'Climategate' - FactCheck.org

 

[Rigby5]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

You are aware that Scientists DID in fact write emails about LYING to the public about supposed man made global warming? That those emails exist and are real?

You are aware that the Hockey Stick graph was proven to be false it ignored several major events and had false misleading information in it? That everyone with half a brain agrees that it is discredited and false?

You are aware that AL Gore has been caught lying, misleading and falsifying information on global warming? That he uses resources of something like 30 people all by himself?

The hockey stick graph ignores an entire ice age

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, that took hundreds of millions of years to accumulate, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

 

[Frannie]

I have the proof the AGW fraud right here:

1) People say some scientists wrote emails to each other and agreed to defraud the public,. Lots of people say that - and they say very bad things about those scientists, who are criminals, as lots of people say its so.

2) Hockey stick graph. How dumb. Everyone knows that's a fraud, people say its so.

3) Al Gore. That dude looks like a dufus. Sorry, but what more proof of AGW fraud do you need?

You are aware that Scientists DID in fact write emails about LYING to the public about supposed man made global warming? That those emails exist and are real?

You are aware that the Hockey Stick graph was proven to be false it ignored several major events and had false misleading information in it? That everyone with half a brain agrees that it is discredited and false?

You are aware that AL Gore has been caught lying, misleading and falsifying information on global warming? That he uses resources of something like 30 people all by himself?

The hockey stick graph ignores an entire ice age

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

And nothing has happened. The north pole is still frozen as is Antarctica

 

[Rigby5]

How ******* stupid are Deniers?

"People say" is proof?

People say Elvis is alive.

It wasn't "people say," moron. Their emails were published. That's what Climategate is all about.

Yres there were e0mail. E-mails you evidently can not interpret. Climategate was debunked.

Wrong. There were some sleazy attempts to white wash it, but only the gullible were fooled.

Yep, you are the gullible.

Data can need adjusted so it can be blended with other data.

For example, the unemployment rate is seasonally adjusted. Better start running down the street & screaming "OMG OMG OMG" to that one.

The data was "homogenized" so the cult could lie about it. They were caught doing it and talking about it in their emails. What do you imagine "hide the decline" refers to?

Without context you have nothing.
I could easily come up with a sentence that includes, "hide the decline".
For example, the heat absorbed by the phase change of melting ice would incorrectly make air temperature readings decline from what they would actually mean, so we should hide that decline by adjusting for the energy absorbed by the melting ice.


The problem is you don't understand the data, the process, the science, or anything, but instead already have your mind fixed on what you want instead of reality. And the reality is that suddenly releasing hundreds of millions of years of fossilized carbon energy MUST cause huge side effects and consequences. It can't not do that. And it is up to scientists to predict what the conclusions of those actions will be. Then we can decide if they are worth the risks, or NOT. The fact I am in the NOT group does not mean you can't argue against it. But you have to use science to be worth considering. Using emails debunks over a decade ago is just silly.

 

[Rigby5]

You are aware that Scientists DID in fact write emails about LYING to the public about supposed man made global warming? That those emails exist and are real?

You are aware that the Hockey Stick graph was proven to be false it ignored several major events and had false misleading information in it? That everyone with half a brain agrees that it is discredited and false?

You are aware that AL Gore has been caught lying, misleading and falsifying information on global warming? That he uses resources of something like 30 people all by himself?

The hockey stick graph ignores an entire ice age

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

And nothing has happened. The north pole is still frozen as is Antarctica

Wrong.
Every summer, ships now traverse the Northwest Passage.
Are you claiming they don't?
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

Fresh melt off from Greenland is starting to submerge the Gulf Stream and sent Europe off in a mini ice age.
The Antarctic ice shelf is radidly calving.
Mountain tops are becoming bare.

The changes are dramatic and obvious to anyone.

 

[Frannie]

The hockey stick graph ignores an entire ice age

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

And nothing has happened. The north pole is still frozen as is Antarctica

Wrong.
Every summer, ships now traverse the Northwest Passage.
Are you claiming they don't?
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

Fresh melt off from Greenland is starting to submerge the Gulf Stream and sent Europe off in a mini ice age.
The Antarctic ice shelf is radidly calving.
Mountain tops are becoming bare.

The changes are dramatic and obvious to anyone.

There were subs surfaced at an ice free north pole in the 50s. Furthermore prior to satellite data the ice cover at the north pole was not known. But you go on pretending

Yawn

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[Leo123]

Data can need adjusted so it can be blended with other data.

For example, the unemployment rate is seasonally adjusted. Better start running down the street & screaming "OMG OMG OMG" to that one.

No Dave, you don't 'adjust' data and then expect to have a reliable statistical outcome. This is the problem with AGW, the data is cherry-picked to align with the already determined conclusion.

 

[Frannie]

Data can need adjusted so it can be blended with other data.

For example, the unemployment rate is seasonally adjusted. Better start running down the street & screaming "OMG OMG OMG" to that one.

No Dave, you don't 'adjust' data and then expect to have a reliable statistical outcome. This is the problem with AGW, the data is cherry-picked to align with the already determined conclusion.

You can not talk sense to a religious zealot

 

[Rigby5]

{...
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016
Author:
Tom Di Liberto
September 16, 2016

For the last several decades, Earth has had a fever, and it has been spiking in recent years. Nowhere has this been clearer than across the Arctic, where annual average temperature has been warming at twice the rate of lower latitudes. As a result, sea ice has become a dwindling commodityin the far north frequently exposing the southern path through the Northwest Passage—the oft-talked about ship route from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean through the Canadian Arctic.

The Canadian Arctic on August 9, 2016, showing the Northwest Passage nearly free of ice. The "southern route" through the passage, travelled by Roald Amundsen in the early 1900s, is traced in yellow. The more commericaly important "northern route" goes straight through Parry Channel from Lancaster Sound to McClure Strait. NASA/NOAA image from Suomi/NPP satellite.

Cloudless skies across the Arctic on August 9 provided a clear view of open water conditions across the straits that make up the Canadian Arctic. Thinner ice and record-low sea ice extents leading up to the 2016 summer melt season plus warmer oceans during the summer led to well below-average amounts of sea ice across the Arctic. Strong storms during August helped break up and clear out the ice along the southern route of the passage. You can draw a line yourself through iceless seas to create your own path, like finishing a real-time geographic maze.
...}

Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

 

[Frannie]

{...
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016
Author:
Tom Di Liberto
September 16, 2016

For the last several decades, Earth has had a fever, and it has been spiking in recent years. Nowhere has this been clearer than across the Arctic, where annual average temperature has been warming at twice the rate of lower latitudes. As a result, sea ice has become a dwindling commodityin the far north frequently exposing the southern path through the Northwest Passage—the oft-talked about ship route from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean through the Canadian Arctic.

The Canadian Arctic on August 9, 2016, showing the Northwest Passage nearly free of ice. The "southern route" through the passage, travelled by Roald Amundsen in the early 1900s, is traced in yellow. The more commericaly important "northern route" goes straight through Parry Channel from Lancaster Sound to McClure Strait. NASA/NOAA image from Suomi/NPP satellite.

Cloudless skies across the Arctic on August 9 provided a clear view of open water conditions across the straits that make up the Canadian Arctic. Thinner ice and record-low sea ice extents leading up to the 2016 summer melt season plus warmer oceans during the summer led to well below-average amounts of sea ice across the Arctic. Strong storms during August helped break up and clear out the ice along the southern route of the passage. You can draw a line yourself through iceless seas to create your own path, like finishing a real-time geographic maze.
...}

Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

It's called Summer. Its not new either

Remind me when there is no ice in winter

 

[Rigby5]

What ice age?

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

And nothing has happened. The north pole is still frozen as is Antarctica

Wrong.
Every summer, ships now traverse the Northwest Passage.
Are you claiming they don't?
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

Fresh melt off from Greenland is starting to submerge the Gulf Stream and sent Europe off in a mini ice age.
The Antarctic ice shelf is radidly calving.
Mountain tops are becoming bare.

The changes are dramatic and obvious to anyone.

There were subs surfaced at an ice free north pole in the 50s. Furthermore prior to satellite data the ice cover at the north pole was not known. But you go on pretending

Yawn

Google Image Result for http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/uss-skate-open-water.jpg

Absolute lie.
There was no open water at the North Pole in the 1960s.
The image of open water was on the way TOO the North Pole.
There are people who took snow mobiles to the North Pole, in the summer, even after the 1950s. They could not have done that if there was ANY possible risk of even a trace of puddles, much less open water.
In fact, it took the USS Natilus days to find a thin vent in the ice so they could break through to the surface.

People always knew what the ice coverage was over the North Pole, because ships were always probing, and natives always traversed for hunting purposes. And you do NOT need satellites. We had lots of planes in the 1950s, which vastly superior technology than one can put into a tiny satellite.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The one 20000 years ago and left a mountain near my nj home

Exactly.
Ice ages are about 120 thousand year long cycles that are fairly regular and slow.
While in comparison, we have artificially released over 5 trillion tons of sequestered fossil carbon a years, and caused as much climate change as an ice age, in less than 200 years.

And nothing has happened. The north pole is still frozen as is Antarctica

Wrong.
Every summer, ships now traverse the Northwest Passage.
Are you claiming they don't?
Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016 | NOAA Climate.gov

Fresh melt off from Greenland is starting to submerge the Gulf Stream and sent Europe off in a mini ice age.
The Antarctic ice shelf is radidly calving.
Mountain tops are becoming bare.

The changes are dramatic and obvious to anyone.

There were subs surfaced at an ice free north pole in the 50s. Furthermore prior to satellite data the ice cover at the north pole was not known. But you go on pretending

Yawn

Google Image Result for http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/uss-skate-open-water.jpg

Absolute lie.
There was no open water at the North Pole in the 1960s.
The image of open water was on the way TOO the North Pole.
There are people who took snow mobiles to the North Pole, in the summer, even after the 1950s. They could not have done that if there was ANY possible risk of even a trace of puddles, much less open water.
In fact, it took the USS Natilus days to find a thin vent in the ice so they could break through to the surface.

People always knew what the ice coverage was over the North Pole, because ships were always probing, and natives always traversed for hunting purposes. And you do NOT need satellites. We had lots of planes in the 1950s, which vastly superior technology than one can put into a tiny satellite.

WHAT THE ****



So you saying 1950's technology is better than 2019?




How ******* stupid are you?


.

 

[Rigby5]

Data can need adjusted so it can be blended with other data.

For example, the unemployment rate is seasonally adjusted. Better start running down the street & screaming "OMG OMG OMG" to that one.

No Dave, you don't 'adjust' data and then expect to have a reliable statistical outcome. This is the problem with AGW, the data is cherry-picked to align with the already determined conclusion.

Wrong.
You always have to adjust data.
For example, when you want to check balance of trade against the past, you have to adjust for the increase in GPD and inflation instead of using gross numbers.
There is no cherry picking with AGW research. There is absolutely no incentive to do that. The only ones with a motive to lie are the ones making profits from selling fossil fuels. Scientists are not paid more for findings on AGW.