Progressivism is incompatible with life

[BluesLegend]

Nature has selected progressives for extinction.

 

[BluesLegend]

Well that is because it is controlled by the far left!

As we have seen in Pennsylvania, in order for the Democrats to win, they have to run as blue Dog Democrats and denounce the far left and all their religious dogma.

Are you talking about Lamb? Do you know what any of his positions are?

Conor Lamb campaigned:

1. For universal health care
2. Against Trump’s tax cut
3. For expanded background checks
4. For stronger unions
5. Against cuts to Social Security
6. For a woman’s right to choose
7. For medical marijuana

Are you talking about Lamb? Do you know what his positions were?

1. Pro-gun, 2nd Amendment Rights
2. Pro-life
3. Drill baby, drill approach to energy and fossil fuels

The guy ran as a Trump republican.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Let's just remember that Regressivism, er, "Progressivism", is not traditional liberalism. It's a distortion, a mutation, a perversion of traditional liberalism.

We have illiberal leftist authoritarians masquerading as liberals and they've taken over the Democratic Party.

That is the truth. It's UnAmerican.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh, yeah, a handful of social safety nets and an emphasis on helping young people get educated without going into crippling debt is incompatible with reality. Just a bunch of pie in the sky nonsense.

A handful? You must have hands the size of dump trucks, then.

And I find myself dubious about "an emphasis on helping young people get educated" that gives us increasing numbers of people who either don't graduate high school, or are functionally illiterate when they do, and who live with their parents until they're 50 because they can't handle life as an independent adult.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The right doesn't want a mommy state to care for them, but they want a daddy state to protect them. I don't see a significant ideological difference at the core of it.

Really? You don't see any difference?

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean by “mommy state” and “daddy state”; but the understanding that I have has a very big difference between them.

I understand your “ mommy state to care for them” as the welfare state, handouts to those who are unwilling or unable to support themselves, which takes a form which tends to encourage people to become dependent thereon, rather than striving for self-reliance.

I understand your “daddy state to protect them” as military, to protect us from foreign enemies, and law enforcement, to protect us from criminals.

I see the latter as clearly a legitimate function and duty of government. The former, I do not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

As a student of history, did you know that the term "progressive" was given to American POW's who had been "re-educated" during the Korea War? I recall learning of this on a documentary on various wars, tactics, spying etc.

The Chinese and North Koreans essentially brainwashed pilots and others who were captured and had them used as propaganda. It was the honest to God term that the Chinese proudly gave to the most ardent and committed believers of the Communist re-education, some even stayed in North Korea or China (I forgot which now) after the war and remained over there voluntarily.

Something to consider as the alt-left gets a little too strong for my liking.

And in their study of those that had been brainwashed America discovered that the more education a prisoner had, the less effective the brainwashing.

Which tells us a lot about why leftists love to disguise their brainwashing AS education.

 

[Leo123]

The current progressives are actually regressive.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The current progressives are actually regressive.

I'm thinking more Communist Globalist. They have a plan for us, and it's not pretty.

 

[impuretrash]

don't call them that, it sounds like a positive thing. "progressive" is just a new coat of paint on the same old marxism

 

[Brian Blackwell]

The right doesn't want a mommy state to care for them, but they want a daddy state to protect them. I don't see a significant ideological difference at the core of it.

Really? You don't see any difference?

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean by “mommy state” and “daddy state”; but the understanding that I have has a very big difference between them.

I understand your “ mommy state to care for them” as the welfare state, handouts to those who are unwilling or unable to support themselves, which takes a form which tends to encourage people to become dependent thereon, rather than striving for self-reliance.

I understand your “daddy state to protect them” as military, to protect us from foreign enemies, and law enforcement, to protect us from criminals.

I see the latter as clearly a legitimate function and duty of government. The former, I do not.

For a function of government to be legitimate, the government itself must be legitimate. This should not be assumed, but investigated. By what authority does government have the right to rule? By delegation of the people?

For you to delegate the right to someone else to perform some function, you must first have the right to perform it yourself - do you agree? I cannot delegate the painting of your house to my brother, since I do not have the right to paint your house to begin with.

So how do you suppose that Congress has the right to lay and collect taxes? The people delegate it to them? Who among those people would claim the right to personally tax their next-door neighbor? Even the founders saw this flaw, as nowhere in the Constitution does it explain how this power is acquired. They just assert it. They “shall”... how very convenient.

Can I just “shall” anything I please? Of course not. So what gives? Both right and left buy into the fundamental lie - the validity of government authority - because they hope they can wield that power themselves, by proxy. It’s invalid, immoral, and always backfires because it leaves the people holding the bag.

 

[Leo123]

The right doesn't want a mommy state to care for them, but they want a daddy state to protect them. I don't see a significant ideological difference at the core of it.

Really? You don't see any difference?

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean by “mommy state” and “daddy state”; but the understanding that I have has a very big difference between them.

I understand your “ mommy state to care for them” as the welfare state, handouts to those who are unwilling or unable to support themselves, which takes a form which tends to encourage people to become dependent thereon, rather than striving for self-reliance.

I understand your “daddy state to protect them” as military, to protect us from foreign enemies, and law enforcement, to protect us from criminals.

I see the latter as clearly a legitimate function and duty of government. The former, I do not.

For a function of government to be legitimate, the government itself must be legitimate. This should not be assumed, but investigated. By what authority does government have the right to rule? By delegation of the people?

For you to delegate the right to someone else to perform some function, you must first have the right to perform it yourself - do you agree? I cannot delegate the painting of your house to my brother, since I do not have the right to paint your house to begin with.

So how do you suppose that Congress has the right to lay and collect taxes? The people delegate it to them? Who among those people would claim the right to personally tax their next-door neighbor? Even the founders saw this flaw, as nowhere in the Constitution does it explain how this power is acquired. They just assert it. They “shall”... how very convenient.

Can I just “shall” anything I please? Of course not. So what gives? Both right and left buy into the fundamental lie - the validity of government authority - because they hope they can wield that power themselves, by proxy. It’s invalid, immoral, and always backfires because it leaves the people holding the bag.

The government consists of We The People who elect representatives through the creation of a Constitutional government.

 

[otto105]

Well that is because it is controlled by the far left!

As we have seen in Pennsylvania, in order for the Democrats to win, they have to run as blue Dog Democrats and denounce the far left and all their religious dogma.

Blue Dog Democratic pols give full throat support for Unions?

 

[Brian Blackwell]

The right doesn't want a mommy state to care for them, but they want a daddy state to protect them. I don't see a significant ideological difference at the core of it.

Really? You don't see any difference?

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean by “mommy state” and “daddy state”; but the understanding that I have has a very big difference between them.

I understand your “ mommy state to care for them” as the welfare state, handouts to those who are unwilling or unable to support themselves, which takes a form which tends to encourage people to become dependent thereon, rather than striving for self-reliance.

I understand your “daddy state to protect them” as military, to protect us from foreign enemies, and law enforcement, to protect us from criminals.

I see the latter as clearly a legitimate function and duty of government. The former, I do not.

For a function of government to be legitimate, the government itself must be legitimate. This should not be assumed, but investigated. By what authority does government have the right to rule? By delegation of the people?

For you to delegate the right to someone else to perform some function, you must first have the right to perform it yourself - do you agree? I cannot delegate the painting of your house to my brother, since I do not have the right to paint your house to begin with.

So how do you suppose that Congress has the right to lay and collect taxes? The people delegate it to them? Who among those people would claim the right to personally tax their next-door neighbor? Even the founders saw this flaw, as nowhere in the Constitution does it explain how this power is acquired. They just assert it. They “shall”... how very convenient.

Can I just “shall” anything I please? Of course not. So what gives? Both right and left buy into the fundamental lie - the validity of government authority - because they hope they can wield that power themselves, by proxy. It’s invalid, immoral, and always backfires because it leaves the people holding the bag.

The government consists of We The People who elect representatives through the creation of a Constitutional government.

I understand the rhetoric, but this does not answer the question, “How does your representative have rights that you don’t?” How can he be said to represent you when he can make law and you cannot? How do you delegate a right to him that you never had in the first place?

 

[sealybobo]

Promiscuity? You mean like screwing stormy Daniels 1 year after you married melania and 4 months after baron was born?

Yeah...that’s exactly what I mean. You do realize that Donald Trump is a life-long New York limousine liberal, don’t you?

You can’t call that a liberal. That’s a nyc conservative. Just not socially conservative like Bible belters but fiscally will go along with the cons on most business decisions.

I like him looking out for American workers. He stole that from dumb democrats who abandoned labor years ago

 

[sealybobo]

Well that is because it is controlled by the far left!

As we have seen in Pennsylvania, in order for the Democrats to win, they have to run as blue Dog Democrats and denounce the far left and all their religious dogma.

Blue Dog Democratic pols give full throat support for Unions?

I’m glad they support labor

 

[francoHFW]

OP- absolute idiocy. Every successful modern country is Progressive and socialist-no, not communist, brainwashed functional assholes. Even the United States, although barely with our ridiculously expensive Healthcare and giveaways to the rich and giant corporations. And of course brainwashed fools like GOP voters on here. ACA cuts abortions by 40%. You people are so ignorant and manipulated.

 

[Leo123]

I understand the rhetoric, but this does not answer the question, “How does your representative have rights that you don’t?” How can he be said to represent you when he can make law and you cannot? How do you delegate a right to him that you never had in the first place?

The Constitution of the U.S. is not 'rhetoric.' Representatives do not have any 'rights' I don't have. Representatives are elected to REPRESENT my rights in the geographic U.S. I have the right to write and promote a bill if I choose to do so. So do you if you are a U.S. citizen. Sadly, that last bit may be changing with progressive policies that promote illegal aliens as having citizen rights.

 

[francoHFW]

Everything about the progressive ideology (the victim mentality, the promotion of promiscuity, the facilitation of abortion, the refusal to take personal responsibility, the entitlement, the rejection of God, the demonization of success, etc.) is incompatible with life.

Ask yourself this question: Is a black child likely to grow up happy if he is told by his parents, his teachers, his political leaders, and all his media that society largely hates him? Of course not. Raising a black child to regard America as racist and oppressive all but guarantees an unhappy black adult.

The progressive ideology is breeding a resentful, miserable, unhappy following. Which explains the violence, the tearing down of monuments, and the perpetual aggravation of the left.

Why Leftists Are So Unhappy

Total BS, super dupe. We are unhappy because the greedy idiot GOP and you silly dupes and bigots have wrecked the country the last 35 years. But we don't think about politics all the time, dumbass.

 

[Leo123]

OP- absolute idiocy. Every successful modern country is Progressive and socialist-no, not communist, brainwashed functional assholes. Even the United States, although barely with our ridiculously expensive Healthcare and giveaways to the rich and giant corporations. And of course brainwashed fools like GOP voters on here. ACA cuts abortions by 40%. You people are so ignorant and manipulated.

Spoken like a true Communist...congratulations! Nice spinning.

 

[Leo123]

Total BS, super dupe. We are unhappy because the greedy idiot GOP and you silly dupes and bigots have wrecked the country the last 35 years. But we don't think about politics all the time, dumbass.

Yeah right, the GOP are 'bigots'....That horse has been beaten to death with the only result......A bloody dead horse. Not so funny for the horse. Or the Democrats.