Proclaiming Hillary received the most popular votes is HIGHLY overrated

[TheDude]

This country should be run to the pleasure of southern California.

My state of Nevada used to lean red. We were inundated by southern California "migrants", and as a result we now swing left. Now ask yourselves, why was Nevada flooded by Californians if California is so great?

 

[sealybobo]

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

That's the part of all this that makes me really angry. We're down to about half of the people who can vote are actually voting. That's a damn tragedy. A lot of folks are dying every day to defend the rights of citizens in this country. A lot of folks died, killed by their fellow countrymen, to expand the right to vote to the entire population. Post 9/11, the President of the United States has unprecedented power and Congress has shown repeatedly they're not willing to check a President. The voting booth is the one real check on power and half the voters can't be bothered to go.

What the holy hell!

They weren't kidding when they said "Every nation gets the government it deserves." We are definitely getting that now.

I don't get it. When Obama was president we had a government we didn't deserve? And, presumably of course, if Hillary had won the case would be the same?

Yes. Nations always get the government they deserve. It's not a hard quote to figure out. Either the people in the nation outright support the government they have, or they are to apethetic or weak to change it. Either way, they get the government they deserve.

WRONG! The media lies and manipulates the news, largely controlled by one political party. obama would never had been elected in the first place if they had not demonized Bush and then pinned all the economic problems on him and the Republicans, while not vetting obama at all. Then the second time they simply let him get away with all his lies. ALMOST forced Hillary on us but thank God enough people finally woke up to how corrupt they are.

There was an election, people voted, and we elected Obama, same as we elected Bush, same as we elected Clinton, same as we elected Bush Sr., same as we elected Reagan, etc.

If people neither wanted nor deserved Governments lead by these men, they'd have risen up and changed it. This time we elected Trump and we will get the government we deserve.

Nations ALWAYS have the governments they deserve.

I agree. But what about the people who didn't vote for him who got screwed? Or if he does good, what about us who said he would suck? LOL

 

[kaz]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

Overrated doesn't mean it's a lie. Do you speak any English at all or do you just speak Democrat?

 

[kaz]

This country should be run to the pleasure of southern California.

My state of Nevada used to lean red. We were inundated by southern California "migrants", and as a result we now swing left. Now ask yourselves, why was Nevada flooded by Californians if California is so great?

And and after they left because of what liberalism is doing why are they doing it to you?

Ironically I have a good bud who moved from Oakland to Carson City to get away from the liberal idiots running the place and now to your point they are following him there ...

 

[Meathead]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

Overrated doesn't mean it's a lie. Do you speak any English at all or do you just speak Democrat?

It's called ebonics.

 

[hadit]

We'll see how much RWnuts think majorities don't matter once the Democrats in the Senate start filibustering the GOP's agenda.

lol, you watch. You heard it here.

Reid has shown the way to deal with that, just change the rules.

 

[hadit]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

There's no such thing as a national popular vote. This isn't homogeneous America, it's the United STATES of America and in every state there is a POPULAR vote to determine who that state elects. The states elect the president and you get a say in how your state votes.

You safety pin crybabies can scream "unfair!" all you want, but it's perfectly fair.

The system is patently unfair.

The idea that your vote should have more value because your neighbor is a prairie dog instead of a person is absurdly unfair.

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So you believe the red and pink on this map should be governed by the blue. Now that is unfair. Thus why we have an electoral college.

That map doesn't represent a government of the people.

That map represents a government of the dirt.

It represents what the founding fathers set up, a government of the states. Why do you want to disenfranchise the voters in the states?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

At the moment she has less than .5% more of the pv, and they haven't all been counted. Since the election was not fought on the basis of securing the PV, as pointed out by OP, it is meaningless.

Here, have some Play Doh:

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"Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

Bullshit.

Usually, you Liberals reveal how deeply I've wounded you with the vulgarity with which you respond.

I did...you did.


Let's take a look at the facts:

1. "She had 59,755,284 votes, according to CNN's tally, with 92% of the expected vote counted. Trump had 59,535,522. That difference of 219,762 is razor-thin considering the nearly 120 million votes counted so far."
Hillary Clinton lost the election but is winning the popular vote - CNNPolitics.com


2. Obama told illegal aliens to go out and vote....and there would be no recriminations!!!!!


From the horse's mouth:

Criminal President Obama Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote – Promises No Repercussions (VIDEO)



Obama: 'When you vote, you're a citizen...."



3. There were over 120 million votes cast......and there are maybe 30 million illegals....

Logic and experience evince that way more than 200,000 votes were cast by illegals.

Hillary lost......face it.




Don't forget....the very same dunces who are trying to retain some semblance of victory for the loser...and the loser's loser voters....
...are the very same fools who try to grace Gorbachev with ending the Cold War so they don't have to admit that all kudos go to Reagan.


Face it....you got creamed.....by every single metric.....including the popular vote

 

[JoeB131]

obama would never had been elected in the first place if they had not demonized Bush and then pinned all the economic problems on him and the Republicans, while not vetting obama at all.

Uh, guy, the economic problems were Bush's fault, but McCain was losing before the economy collapsed. Had something to do with an illegal war started on a lie he supported, but people were sick of.

 

[JoeB131]

1. "She had 59,755,284 votes, according to CNN's tally, with 92% of the expected vote counted. Trump had 59,535,522. That difference of 219,762 is razor-thin considering the nearly 120 million votes counted so far."

Okay, you need to keep up to date, if you are going to make an argument.

2016 presidential election results

Right now, Hillary Clinton is leading Cheeto Jesus by 1.3 million votes.

 

[JoeB131]

3. There were over 120 million votes cast......and there are maybe 30 million illegals....

Logic and experience evince that way more than 200,000 votes were cast by illegals.

Hillary lost......face it.

Exccept there's no evidence any illegals voted, much less 1.3 million of them.

 

[Care4all]

3. There were over 120 million votes cast......and there are maybe 30 million illegals....

Logic and experience evince that way more than 200,000 votes were cast by illegals.

Hillary lost......face it.

Exccept there's no evidence any illegals voted, much less 1.3 million of them.

It's up to winning by 1.4 MILLION now....should surpass 2 million when the count is done on absentee voters.

there has been just one case of voter fraud by an illegal that has been prosecuted recently, it took place in Texas, an illegal Mexican woman that voted in 3 or 4 elections/primaries over a few years, and she was a registered REPUBLICAN, who was married to an American man...

 

[NYcarbineer]

So if Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote is highly overrated,

I guess it's fair to say that the Republicans winning all those governorships and state legislatures is highly overrated,

given that they were all elected by the POPULAR VOTE.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

There's no such thing as a national popular vote. This isn't homogeneous America, it's the United STATES of America and in every state there is a POPULAR vote to determine who that state elects. The states elect the president and you get a say in how your state votes.

You safety pin crybabies can scream "unfair!" all you want, but it's perfectly fair.

The system is patently unfair.

The idea that your vote should have more value because your neighbor is a prairie dog instead of a person is absurdly unfair.

Nice view of your fellow Americans.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

That means you think the founders hated democracy

They made sure with the Electoral College that the US wouldn't have too much of it.

they made sure they would protect slavery...and that's why the rural states have far more power than they should.

Protect slavery?

You truly are insane.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

Popular vote isn't in the Constitution

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

rightwingnuts always want to take away the ability of anyone who isn't a nutcase winger to vote. *shrug*

The Marxist claims intellectual superiority.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

Rules are what the rules are. And the fact is, each state regulates and runs their elections differently. You can't have a national popular vote without federalizing the election process, something I for one and NOT in favor of.

That said, the fact Hillary did win the popular vote by a pretty comfortable margin isn't something to overlook. There's a lot of folks screaming "MANDATE!" and the fact Hillary won the popular calls BS on that. The Republicans have an opportunity to implement their agenda, but not a mandate to do so.

It also highlights the fact that the dialogue in the future has to go both ways. I've seen a lot of Trump supporters gleefully bragging that Democrats are out of touch. Not so. Democrats were the majority of voters in the election. The whole "out of touch" argument is also BS. Trump supporters need to reach out to Democrats just as much as Democrats need to reach out Trump supporters.

Then this is the time for "BOTH" parties to start working together for all Americans, and put this partisan indifference aside.

Mandate or not, the Republicans now hold the three branches of government.

It will be up to the Democrats to extend that olive branch without the insults toward the American people.

However you feel about the parties and the Representatives is one thing, but to have contempt for the citizens and demean them, then complain that they didn't vote for your candidate, needs to end.

This is the reason I parted ways with the Democrats after almost 40 years as a Democrat.

The shameful display continues with assaults and destruction.

In no way does leaving the Democrat party equate with supporting the Republican party.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

This may all change on December 19.

Clinton's lead in the popular vote passes 1 million - POLITICO

You still pimping this notion?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Trump not very popular

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[PoliticalChic]

3. There were over 120 million votes cast......and there are maybe 30 million illegals....

Logic and experience evince that way more than 200,000 votes were cast by illegals.

Hillary lost......face it.

Exccept there's no evidence any illegals voted, much less 1.3 million of them.

"Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens