Private Moon Landing Tomorrow

[NoVote]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

 

[miketx]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

 

[TNHarley]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

From what i can tell, they have been orbiting the moon for a little while. I cant find out why.

 

[miketx]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

From what i can tell, they have been orbiting the moon for a little while. I cant find out why.

So they are already at the moon? That makes more sense than taking 2 months for a 3 day trip, huh?

 

[Darkwind]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

 

[martybegan]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

They didn't use the more direct orbital mechanics that the Apollo missions used, as they used smaller rockets with less thrust.

They increased their orbital velocity around earth in stages until the probe was captured by the moon's orbital gravity, and then they spent time adjusting this orbit to allow for a soft landing.

When you don't have people to feed on a craft, you can take more time and use less energy to get to a lunar orbit.

Beresheet - Wikipedia

From 24 February to 19 March, the main engine was used four times for orbit raising, putting its apogee close to the Moon's orbital distance.[25] The spacecraft performed maneuvers so as to be succussfully captured into an elliptical lunar orbit on 4 April 2019, and has adjusted its flight pattern in a circular orbit around the Moon. Once in the correct circular orbit, it will decelerate for a soft landing on the lunar surface, planned for 11 April 2019.[26]

 

[miketx]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

They didn't use the more direct orbital mechanics that the Apollo missions used, as they used smaller rockets with less thrust.

They increased their orbital velocity around earth in stages until the probe was captured by the moon's orbital gravity, and then they spent time adjusting this orbit to allow for a soft landing.

When you don't have people to feed on a craft, you can take more time and use less energy to get to a lunar orbit.

Beresheet - Wikipedia

From 24 February to 19 March, the main engine was used four times for orbit raising, putting its apogee close to the Moon's orbital distance.[25] The spacecraft performed maneuvers so as to be succussfully captured into an elliptical lunar orbit on 4 April 2019, and has adjusted its flight pattern in a circular orbit around the Moon. Once in the correct circular orbit, it will decelerate for a soft landing on the lunar surface, planned for 11 April 2019.[26]

Thanks, but they still had to reach escape velocity to break free of the Earths pull and this is 7 miles per second, or aproxx. 25000 mph. So to me it still doesn't add up. Thank you though.

 

[miketx]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

The aliens that already have bases there wont allow that.

 

[martybegan]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

They didn't use the more direct orbital mechanics that the Apollo missions used, as they used smaller rockets with less thrust.

They increased their orbital velocity around earth in stages until the probe was captured by the moon's orbital gravity, and then they spent time adjusting this orbit to allow for a soft landing.

When you don't have people to feed on a craft, you can take more time and use less energy to get to a lunar orbit.

Beresheet - Wikipedia

From 24 February to 19 March, the main engine was used four times for orbit raising, putting its apogee close to the Moon's orbital distance.[25] The spacecraft performed maneuvers so as to be succussfully captured into an elliptical lunar orbit on 4 April 2019, and has adjusted its flight pattern in a circular orbit around the Moon. Once in the correct circular orbit, it will decelerate for a soft landing on the lunar surface, planned for 11 April 2019.[26]

Thanks, but they still had to reach escape velocity to break free of the Earths pull and this is 7 miles per second, or aproxx. 25000 mph. So to me it still doesn't add up. Thank you though.

With the method they used they just kept increasing the orbit until they intersected with the moon's gravity well and the probe was captured by it.

Even with the Apollo launches they didn't need to really escape Earth's gravity, they just needed to get close enough to the moon for it's gravity to take over.

 

[gtopa1]

When humans return to the Moon, it might not be NASA sending them. While America's next Moon rocket is billions of dollars over budget and years behind schedule, a small Israeli company is poised to touchdown on the Moon tomorrow. Their robot named "Beresheet" is scheduled to land on Mare Serenitatis (the Sea of Serenity) on April 11th around 3 pm Eastern time. The event will be livestreamed by SpaceIL, the first private company to land on lunar soil. Robots now, humans next? Stay tuned.

Watch live here; SpaceIL

SpaceIL is a non-profit organization established in 2011 aiming to land the first Israeli spacecraft on the Moon. The organization was founded by three young engineers: Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub who answered the international challenge presented by Google Lunar XPRIZE: to build, launch and land an unmanned spacecraft on the Moon. SpaceIL was the only Israeli representative. In October 2015, SpaceIL reached a dramatic project milestone by becoming the first team to announce a signed launch contract, that symbolizes an actual "ticket to the Moon". In January 2017, SpaceIL became one of the competition’s five finalists. The competition officially ended with no winners in March 31, 2018, after Google ended their sponsorship.


Regardless of the competition, SpaceIL is committed to continue and complete its mission, to land on the Moon and to the advancement of science and technology education in Israel.


SpaceIL is actively working to create an Israeli "Apollo Effect.” SpaceIL is committed to inspiring the next generation in Israel and around the world to choose to study science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).
The launch will take place on an American SpaceX rocketinfirst quarter of 2019, and the Moon landing will be at the end of a two-month journey in space, after the launch.

Sounds good, but wondering why it will take them 2 months to get to the moon?

It's a long way to row??

Greg

 

[progressive hunter]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

launching nuclear waste intro space would be one of the dumbest things humans could do,,,
I can see the fallout now when the rocket explodes during launch,,,

 

[Darkwind]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

The aliens that already have bases there wont allow that.

What type of gum is that?

Fucgum?

We planted the flag, its ours. They can get visas to remain in our country or get the F out.

 

[Darkwind]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

launching nuclear waste intro space would be one of the dumbest things humans could do,,,
I can see the fallout now when the rocket explodes during launch,,,

Oh, you're one of those.

I'd explain to you a reasonable and doable method for not only launching the waste, but using it as a sustainable energy source on a moon base.

But you'd rather do nothing, shut down clean energy production on this planet, not bother to clean up our environment, all because you're afraid that no one is smarter than you and can't do the hard things.

 

[progressive hunter]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

launching nuclear waste intro space would be one of the dumbest things humans could do,,,
I can see the fallout now when the rocket explodes during launch,,,

Oh, you're one of those.

I'd explain to you a reasonable and doable method for not only launching the waste, but using it as a sustainable energy source on a moon base.

But you'd rather do nothing, shut down clean energy production on this planet, not bother to clean up our environment, all because you're afraid that no one is smarter than you and can't do the hard things.

I never said that,,

I was talking about a rocket blowing up on take off and spreading waste all over the place

and if it can be a fuel source there then why not use it here first???

 

[progressive hunter]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

The aliens that already have bases there wont allow that.

What type of gum is that?

Fucgum?

We planted the flag, its ours. They can get visas to remain in our country or get the F out.

I dont think hes talking about those aliens

 

[Darkwind]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

launching nuclear waste intro space would be one of the dumbest things humans could do,,,
I can see the fallout now when the rocket explodes during launch,,,

Oh, you're one of those.

I'd explain to you a reasonable and doable method for not only launching the waste, but using it as a sustainable energy source on a moon base.

But you'd rather do nothing, shut down clean energy production on this planet, not bother to clean up our environment, all because you're afraid that no one is smarter than you and can't do the hard things.

I never said that,,

I was talking about a rocket blowing up on take off and spreading waste all over the place

and if it can be a fuel source there then why not use it here first???

Two things.

To be reused as a fuel source, it has to be reprocessed. That is a very toxic and dangerous procedure and one that posses a much more environmentally hazardous situation than putting spent fuel rods in an indestructible container as part of a payload to orbit.

The other thing is, I'm not talking about putting ALL of the spent rods in a single flight to orbit and then the moon. It would go up in stages -- a little with each garbage barge launched -- and then separated when it reached orbit. The trash would be sent one way, the spent fuel sent to the moon.

They make containers for spent fuel rods that travel on a rail car. These containers are so well constructed, they can actually take a hit by a traveling train at speed and not crack open.

Clearly, a new standard for spent fuel packaging would have to be developed, but I have no reason to believe that this cannot be done.

https://www.nap.edu/read/11538/chapter/5#60

 

[Darkwind]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

The aliens that already have bases there wont allow that.

What type of gum is that?

Fucgum?

We planted the flag, its ours. They can get visas to remain in our country or get the F out.

I dont think hes talking about those aliens

*Laugh*

Any aliens. Another planet or Honduras, whats the difference?

 

[Darkwind]

Here are some tests from 1978...




I'm sure that technology has managed to get even better.

 

[progressive hunter]

Nice. I'd be more impressed if it was a manned landing.

I've been thinking about the moon for the past few years and I think it could be a key to solving a number of issues on Earth, starting with cleaning up our oceans and solving our issue with spent reactor rods.

The aliens that already have bases there wont allow that.

What type of gum is that?

Fucgum?

We planted the flag, its ours. They can get visas to remain in our country or get the F out.

I dont think hes talking about those aliens

*Laugh*

Any aliens. Another planet or Honduras, whats the difference?

one walks in with nothing on his back, while the other comes in a space ship with far more advanced tech and can most likely blow our ass away

 

[progressive hunter]

Here are some tests from 1978...




I'm sure that technology has managed to get even better.

and how much do those weigh????