Presidential pardon changes

[Couchpotato]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

 

[Road Runner]

I agree but the democrats are in pure panic mode. They aren't thinking clearly. All Biden's puppet masters are thinking about right now is AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Trump's getting into office next month!! (That's because they know for a fact that he isn't going to go easy on them at all. )

 

[jwoodie]

I think SCOTUS should step in and require that pardons be limited to identified offenses against the United States.

 

[Independent thinker]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

How about this, we make Congressional approval for all pardons mandatory and retroactive?

 

[JGalt]

I agree but the democrats are in pure panic mode. They aren't thinking clearly. All Biden's puppet masters are thinking about right now is AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Trump's getting into office next month!! (That's because they know for a fact that he isn't going to go easy on them at all. )

Joe Biden's probably making out like a bandit, selling those pardons.

 

[kyzr]

Pardon power is in the Constitution, so any Amendment for pardons is not happening.

There is a push for a Convention of States to convene where amendments can happen

Convention of States

Does anyone think 38 states can agree on a pardon amendment?

 

[boevans]

I agree but the democrats are in pure panic mode. They aren't thinking clearly. All Biden's puppet masters are thinking about right now is AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Trump's getting into office next month!! (That's because they know for a fact that he isn't going to go easy on them at all. )

There will be many more pardons, most of them aimed at drying up investigation leads.

 

[Votto]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

Why not put that in the suggestion box

Biden and the Deeeeeep State will get right on it!!

 

[boevans]

Pardon power is in the Constitution, so any Amendment for pardons is not happening.

There is a push for a Convention of States to convene where amendments can happen

Convention of States

Does anyone think 38 states can agree on a pardon amendment?

By four people without influence.

 

[Road Runner]

Joe Biden's probably making out like a bandit, selling those pardons.

Who's going to pardon him though?

 

[NetJedi]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

That would require amending the Constitution, Congress cannot impose that limitation on the Executive Branch's Constitutional Pardon Authority.

SCOTUS has already ruled on this:

Schick v. Reed : "The power of clemency flows from the Constitution alone, not from any legislative enactments, and it cannot be modified, abridged, or diminished by the Congress"

 

[Care4all]

I think SCOTUS should step in and require that pardons be limited to identified offenses against the United States.

Only those crimes charged in Federal court, and/or federal laws broken, can be pardoned by our Presidents....so I am uncertain what you mean....?

Unless....

You mean no more pardons like the President Nixon pardon, where "all of Nixon crimes committed in office while serving" were forgiven, without Ford listing the actual federal statutes he broke?

 

[Couchpotato]

That would require amending the Constitution, Congress cannot impose that limitation on the Executive Branch's Constitutional Pardon Authority.

SCOTUS has already ruled on this:

Schick v. Reed : "The power of clemency flows from the Constitution alone, not from any legislative enactments, and it cannot be modified, abridged, or diminished by the Congress"

Ok I didnt say it wouldnt.

 

[Couchpotato]

How about this, we make Congressional approval for all pardons mandatory and retroactive?

Pardons are supposed to be one of the checks on power vested in the executive branch so no.

 

[NetJedi]

Ok I didnt say it wouldnt.

Yeah, you didn't say it would either, you left it up to the reader to guess at it and I guessed you had no idea what it would take to implement your proposal.

I believe we have A LOT of higher priority items when it comes to jumping through all the hoops necessary to amend the Constitution than worrying about the timing of Presidential Pardons.

Like for instance, restraining our drunken sailor Boys & Girls in D.C. from spending us straight into national bankruptcy.

 

[g5000]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

Wattsa matta? You no likee the Constitution?

 

[g5000]

I think SCOTUS should step in and require that pardons be limited to identified offenses against the United States.

SCOTUS literally has no standing.

 

[g5000]

Joe Biden's probably making out like a bandit, selling those pardons.

As usual, making shit up.

 

[jwoodie]

Only those crimes charged in Federal court, and/or federal laws broken, can be pardoned by our Presidents....so I am uncertain what you mean....?

Unless....

You mean no more pardons like the President Nixon pardon, where "all of Nixon crimes committed in office while serving" were forgiven, without Ford listing the actual federal statutes he broke?

The Constitutional Pardon specifies "Offenses against the United States." SCOTUS has the authority to define that term.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

First. This has nothing to do with Biden's recent pardons. He's well within his Constitutional powers and the timing of his pardons is no different than essentially all past Presidents.

That said I think we need to make at least 1 change and that is to the timing of pardons. We should require that all pardons be submitted and approved prior to the election. Maybe even back it up a week. If a President is going to grant clemency or pardon someone the electorate has a right to know that prior to casting their ballot. If the sitting President is reelected, he is free to then grant pardons post the election but if not or is a lame duck President all pardon applications will be held until the next President is sworn in.

You realize that will require a Constitutional amendment.