Presidential election is an open invitation for fraud.

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Presidential election is a FEDERAL affair.

It should be organized, run, overseen and evaluated by ONE FEDERAL authority from beginning to end, rather than the hodge podge of state authorities stuck in their obsolete paradigm.

Unless the nineteenth century mindset of states right is changed, American presidential elections will always be viewed as flawed, crooked, and lacking in credibility.
 

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Yes and no.

I think it harms the US to have 50 different states, all with different rules about you-name-it. The whole idea of "states rights" is counter-intuitive. About some issues, we may as well as be 50 different small countries.

OTOH, no. There is no wide spread voter fraud. In point of fact, the only one stealing votes is Trump and his minions/followers/ilk/slime. Trump is being very open about stealing votes, suppressing votes and keeping his possible enemies from voting. Real Americans would not vote for him on that basis alone. If you're a big fan of Putin, Russia and screwing over the US, then you're a Trump fan. Period.

While we're at it and for the 50th time, no, Soros has nothing at all to do with voting machines. Honestly, that's one of the dumbest I've heard.
 

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Presidential election is a FEDERAL affair.

It should be organized, run, overseen and evaluated by ONE FEDERAL authority from beginning to end, rather than the hodge podge of state authorities stuck in their obsolete paradigm.

Unless the nineteenth century mindset of states right is changed, American presidential elections will always be viewed as flawed, crooked, and lacking in credibility.
So you would like to dispense with our anachronistic Constitution and replace it with an impartial federal agency like the DOJ? How about Eric Holder as Elections Commissar? :hellno:
 
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Presidential election is a FEDERAL affair.

It should be organized, run, overseen and evaluated by ONE FEDERAL authority from beginning to end, rather than the hodge podge of state authorities stuck in their obsolete paradigm.

Unless the nineteenth century mindset of states right is changed, American presidential elections will always be viewed as flawed, crooked, and lacking in credibility.
So you would like to dispense with our anachronistic Constitution and replace it with an impartial federal agency like the DOJ? How about Eric Holder as Elections Commissar? :hellno:
Never said that your constitution is anachronistic. All I am saying is that the way Americans elect their President is full of flaw and a better way should be sought.

The election of a president affects all Americans, regardless in which state they live. So, the conditions of the election should be the same for all citizens, regardless in which they live in.

There should be no one kind of voting machine in one state and a different kind in an other. There should be ONE day of voting, with allowance of the inconvenienced to vote on the last three days prior to the actual voting day. Anything else, as presently, is giving license to the lazy and incompetent to abuse their right to choose the person to the highest office in the world. There is NO EXCUSE for not voting on Election Day. You know when it is, plan your life around it.

There should be no spectacularly up to date but failing voting machines. Use paper and pencil.

There should be no line ups to vote. Have more polling stations, pay volunteers to man them and eliminate line ups and possible confrontations.

There should be consistent and across the board uniform hours of voting. No vote counting until ALL time zones closed polls.

Finally, learn swallow your pride and learn from Canada.

That is how we do it and learn the results in less than two hours after 8:00 PM Pacific time.
 

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Finally, learn swallow your pride and learn from Canada.
Apples and oranges. Canada has a Parliamentary government with NO direct election of its Prime Minister. The U.S. is a Constitutional Republic comprised of sovereign states, which individually elect the President (as well as Senators). I prefer the latter.
 

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