President Trump erupts: 1st time kneeling, out for game. 2nd time kneeling, out for season/no pay!

[theHawk]

Looks like a violation of the 1st amendment to me?

Nope. If you can get Papa John fired for saying the N-word then NFL players can be fired for disrespecting the flag and the fans.

Nobody cares about fkn racist papa john.

Nobody cares about un-American kneelers.

Peaceful protest is as American as it gets

Firing employees that bring down the image of a company is as American as it gets.

 

[Foxfyre]

Nope. A violation of 1st Amendment more closely looks like people being denied the right to accept an invitation to speak on campus, or being denied the right to have a pleasant night at the theater or restaurant with their family purely because they don't parrot the leftist line. Stuff like that.

A football organization setting the standards of what is expected of its employees/players is not only within the spirit of the Constitution, but in my opinion is the civic duty of management. And the football organization that chooses not to insult the majority of its fans and chooses not to set a terrible example for the kids it should be role models for will get the Good Housekeeping Stamp of Approval from tens of millions of us.

Those who don't will continue to earn contempt from us as well as lose advertisers, fans, and respect.

The real violation here, is the fact that I never willfully decided to make players and coaches well off through my tax dollars, by creating a socialist football program to enriches others. And since I have a stake in this program, and not by choice by the way, my first amendment rights are being violated. The "spirit of the Constitution" applies to those socialized programs I do not care for, that I am mandated to pay for. Remember the Obamacare mandate that was taken out because of protest? Same thing applies here;

I do not deny that the central government does many things that would have the Founders rolling in their graves and which the Founders would see as constitutionally illegal and violations of the Bill of Rights.

However, none of that applies to privately owned sporting organizations and how those organizations are run when tax dollars or government authority are not issues. You, I, anybody else, even the President, has a First Amendment right to express their personal opinions about that and/or disagree with anybody else's opinion about that.

Except Football is paid for with our tax dollars. I have a say. "PERIOD"! Trump works for us, not the other way around. Trump has his opinion, and I have mine. And, it is as valid as his. The Constitution tells us that. He is not a king. Remember that.

Tax payers pay for football? They do get tax breaks most businesses don't get, but I am unaware of any subsidies going to the NFL. And President Trump is being a 'king' by expressing his opinion about kneeling players any more than any of us are. He is issuing no executive orders; pushing no legislation. He says how he feels about it. And that's that.

You mean Trump is entitled to freedom of speech

What a concept

Yes he is, just as all of us have freedom of speech to agree with him or not. It is unfortunate that so many would deny the right to hold and express opinions to so many, including the President.

 

[cwise76]

Looks like a violation of the 1st amendment to me?

Nope. If you can get Papa John fired for saying the N-word then NFL players can be fired for disrespecting the flag and the fans.

Nobody cares about fkn racist papa john.

Nobody cares about un-American kneelers.

Peaceful protest is as American as it gets

Firing employees that bring down the image of a company is as American as it gets.

Pretty sure the NFL told Trump hey thanks bud for the thoughts, we’ve got if from here.

He’s moved onto threatening countries with nuclear strikes or whatever so.....whatever

 

[theHawk]

Nope. If you can get Papa John fired for saying the N-word then NFL players can be fired for disrespecting the flag and the fans.

Nobody cares about fkn racist papa john.

Nobody cares about un-American kneelers.

Peaceful protest is as American as it gets

Firing employees that bring down the image of a company is as American as it gets.

Pretty sure the NFL told Trump hey thanks bud for the thoughts, we’ve got if from here.

He’s moved onto threatening countries with nuclear strikes or whatever so.....whatever

The NFL caved to President Trump and the American people.

How many wars has he started? Oh yea, none.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Trump rules a no free speech zone.

This statement reminds me of what I like a lot about Trump: his strong leadership.

Because you are wrong: he doesn't rule (no-free-speech or anything else). The NFL is meeting with the players' union right now to hammer this out yet some more. No "rule" by Trump is occurring or could occur.

BUT -- Trump sez "Fine 'em! Then fire 'em!" and millions across the country roar, "Yeah!" Now THAT is leadership.

I always used to watch football, for decades -- but I never will again, with all this horrible black stuff. Why can't they just hire on nice white men to play pro football?? I never liked seeing those types who ran around on the field after a play beating their chests like gorillas and howling. How is that nice? Those type of player have no dignity, no appeal. There is no reason I should watch this stuff. It used to be much more fun.

I agree. Trump should resign as president immediately in order to become the NFL insurance commissioner.