Power the U.S. With Solar Panels!

[Toddsterpatriot]

How is Biden "artificially running up the cost of fossil fuel"?

And, just for filler, the cost/kWh for solar PV beat petroleum well before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

No one uses petroleum to generate electricity.

 

[Crick]

No one uses petroleum to generate electricity.

Natural gas is a type of petroleum. Natural gas and coal are both fossil fuels. Both now cost more than solar PV.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Natural gas is a type of petroleum. Natural gas and coal are both fossil fuels. Both now cost more than solar PV.

Natural gas is a type of petroleum.

Nope

Petroleum, also known as crude oil, or simply oil, is a naturally occurring yellowish-black liquid mixture of mainly hydrocarbons,[1] and is found in geological formations. The name petroleum covers both naturally occurring unprocessed crude oil and petroleum products that consist of refined crude oil. A fossil fuel, petroleum is formed when large quantities of dead organisms, mostly zooplankton and algae, are buried underneath sedimentary rock and subjected to both prolonged heat and pressure.

Both now cost more than solar PV.

Solar is very cheap. Unless you need reliable 24/7 power.

 

[Crick]

Natural gas is a type of petroleum.

Nope

Petroleum, also known as crude oil, or simply oil, is a naturally occurring yellowish-black liquid mixture of mainly hydrocarbons,[1] and is found in geological formations. The name petroleum covers both naturally occurring unprocessed crude oil and petroleum products that consist of refined crude oil. A fossil fuel, petroleum is formed when large quantities of dead organisms, mostly zooplankton and algae, are buried underneath sedimentary rock and subjected to both prolonged heat and pressure.

Yup

natural gas, also called methane gas or natural methane gas, colourless highly flammable gaseous hydrocarbon consisting primarily of methane and ethane. It is a type of petroleum that commonly occurs in association with crude oil.

Natural gas | Types, Discovery, Reserves, & Facts

Natural gas, colorless highly flammable gaseous hydrocarbon consisting primarily of methane and ethane. It is a type of petroleum that commonly occurs in association with crude oil. It is widely used as a fuel and is especially important in the generation of electricity.

www.britannica.com

Both now cost more than solar PV.

Solar is very cheap. Unless you need reliable 24/7 power.

Your need is not what determines the price. It might determine the suitability, but it does not determine the price.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yup

natural gas, also called methane gas or natural methane gas, colourless highly flammable gaseous hydrocarbon consisting primarily of methane and ethane. It is a type of petroleum that commonly occurs in association with crude oil.

Natural gas | Types, Discovery, Reserves, & Facts

Natural gas, colorless highly flammable gaseous hydrocarbon consisting primarily of methane and ethane. It is a type of petroleum that commonly occurs in association with crude oil. It is widely used as a fuel and is especially important in the generation of electricity.

www.britannica.com

Your need is not what determines the price. It might determine the suitability, but it does not determine the price.

Nope.

Your need is not what determines the price.

If you claim that solar is cheap and you ignore the need for 24/7 power, you're lying.

 

[Flash]

How is Biden "artificially running up the cost of fossil fuel"?

And, just for filler, the cost/kWh for solar PV beat petroleum well before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Having you been living under a rock?

25 Biden policies raising gas prices and other energy costs - Americans for Prosperity

These twenty-five Biden administration policies are affecting gas prices, home heating costs, and other energy-related burdens families face. Read more.

americansforprosperity.org

These twenty-five Biden administration policies are raising energy costs​

 

[Crick]

Nope.

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Your need is not what determines the price.

If you claim that solar is cheap and you ignore the need for 24/7 power, you're lying.

The claim never went beyond the cost per kilowatt-hour and on that point

Having you been living under a rock?

25 Biden policies raising gas prices and other energy costs - Americans for Prosperity

These twenty-five Biden administration policies are affecting gas prices, home heating costs, and other energy-related burdens families face. Read more.

americansforprosperity.org

These twenty-five Biden administration policies are raising energy costs​

That is about as unobjective an analysis as you could have found. Or in the common vernacular, bullshit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The claim never went beyond the cost per kilowatt-hour and on that point

That is about as unobjective an analysis as you could have found. Or in the common vernacular, bullshit.

The claim never went beyond the cost per kilowatt-hour and on that point

If you can't supply 24/7 power, the cost claim is a lie.

 

[Crick]

The claim never went beyond the cost per kilowatt-hour and on that point

If you can't supply 24/7 power, the cost claim is a lie.

No it's not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

hat is about as unobjective an analysis as you could have found.

Which of those things were not done by the Biden administration?
Which of the ones that they did will not raise energy costs?

Be objective.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No it's not.

It is.

 

[Crick]

If so, then the cost of dealing with the pollution and GHG emissions is included in the cost of burning natural gas or coal.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If so, then the cost of dealing with the pollution and GHG emissions is included in the cost of burning natural gas or coal.

What is the cost of dealing with GHG emissions?
What is the cost of dealing with unreliable solar generation?

 

[Crick]

A) What is the cost of dealing with GHG emissions?
B) What is the cost of dealing with unreliable solar generation?

A>>B

Did you see the post I put up listing short term and long term risks of AGW per AR6?

I think this will take you there: Your Extinction.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A>>B

Did you see the post I put up listing short term and long term risks of AGW per AR6?

Does it talk about how cheap unreliable solar power is?

 

[Sunsettommy]

The claim never went beyond the cost per kilowatt-hour and on that point

That is about as unobjective an analysis as you could have found. Or in the common vernacular, bullshit.

No counterpoints offered then you have nothing here.

Snicker......

 

[Crick]

No counterpoints offered then you have nothing here.

Snicker......

What sort of counterpoints would you like to see?

 

[goodluck]

Apparently at current technology, I will show you a picture of how many solar panels it would take to power the U.S. That is both day and night. (With the stored energy for nighttime) The square in yellow shows the total amount of area in solar panels it would take to do it. Argue with that you naysayers.

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Only idiots would argue against using solar panels to power the U.S.

 

[goodluck]

What sort of counterpoints would you like to see?

It is difficult to make the stupid un-stupid. Isn't it.

 

[sparky]

Only idiots would argue against using solar panels to power the U.S.

You mean the folks that can do the math......~S~