CDZ Posting Solutions for Gun Violence

[Daryl Hunt]

I am looking for solutions to gun violence. All sides. All sides need to be heard equally. Insulting a person is NOT a solution but part of the problem. IF you are going to post angry, do it somewhere else. If you are going to just troll, do it somewhere else. Post solutions as you see it and then let's discuss it.

Care to take that challenge?

 

[Flash]

Most gun violence in the US takes place in inner cities by druggies, gangs, illegals, minorities etc, even with strict gun control laws.

Gun crime is relatively low in White suburban and rural areas even with large gun ownership..

Until we figure out how to effectively deal with those thugs in the big shitholes nothing of substance can be done.

One thing for certain. Taking Constitutional rights away from those that didn't commit the crimes is not a solution.

 

[Bleipriester]

I am looking for solutions to gun violence. All sides. All sides need to be heard equally. Insulting a person is NOT a solution but part of the problem. IF you are going to post angry, do it somewhere else. If you are going to just troll, do it somewhere else. Post solutions as you see it and then let's discuss it.

Care to take that challenge?

Countries without compulsory military service lack a major source of education.

 

[Claudette]

Anyone using a gun to commit a crime gets shot in the head.

I think you would find gun crime would go way down.

Easy Peasy

 

[william the wie]

Too many people believe in non-starters such as gun-free zones.

 

[pismoe]

330 million Americans in the USA and millions and millions of guns and the USA is a very peaceful place . I see no real problem with gun violence except for what has been call Black Swan events which simply means that there are some very unusual events [school shootings] every once in awhile . Fix the areas like schools or gun free zones where there are no men with guns . Then look at Courthouses and Government buildings where there are men with guns all over the place to see peaceful surroundings Daryl .

 

[Claudette]

330 million Americans in the USA and millions and millions of guns and the USA is a very peaceful place . I see no real problem with gun violence except for what has been call Black Swan events which simply means that there are some very unusual events [school shootings] every once in awhile . Fix the areas like schools or gun free zones where there are no men with guns . Then look at Courthouses and Government buildings where there are men with guns all over the place to see peaceful surroundings Daryl .

Yup. They should have metal detectors at all school and locked door except for ingress. We have them at all the court houses and they work.

Our schools already have officers on site. One of them was killed at the last school shooting down here. Have armed guards in all schools. Guards who will shoot.

 

[Circe]

I think what would fix gun violence is quick executions ordered by a court soon after arrest for most crimes. That is, crimes where we know the perpetrator, which is nearly all crimes. I would put narrow limits on --- have to know the perpetrator for sure, no lawyers or juries, just judges, If it's theft or destruction of property the damage should be valued at a given minimum ($1000?) and the perp should be double digits in age for crimes of violence and maybe 16 for property destruction or theft.

The important thing is simply to get rid of the criminals. We coddle them now and keep cycling them back onto the street again and again, like Nikolas Cruz.

 

[pismoe]

and suicides , the legitimate shooting of criminals by cops , shootings in legitimate self defense by Americans are not gun violence and i don't care about stopping shootings in the areas that i just mentioned Daryl ,

 

[Daryl Hunt]

330 million Americans in the USA and millions and millions of guns and the USA is a very peaceful place . I see no real problem with gun violence except for what has been call Black Swan events which simply means that there are some very unusual events [school shootings] every once in awhile . Fix the areas like schools or gun free zones where there are no men with guns . Then look at Courthouses and Government buildings where there are men with guns all over the place to see peaceful surroundings Daryl .

1. Only Some Americans own MOST of the Guns. Most Americans don't own any guns.

2. We are way past the "Every once in awhile" on the School Shootings

3. Schools should not be armed camps. Not real indusive to a good learning curve.

4. Courthouses are where you are supposed to have the bad guys. This is where you jail them (most jails are either in them or next to them), charge them and try them. In a way, it IS a gun free zone. Just the Cops have the guns. I just went through jury selection a few days ago and I really don't want the students of any school to have to go through that kind of entry point. Some are already doing it. A Courthouse is Supposed to much more dangerous than a Public School.

Now, how about let's work out how we do the solutions instead of just hashing out the problems. And let's not not use the tired old talking points. Talking Points are only designed to try and make the other person look dumber. In reality, they just make everyone using them look dumber.

 

[OldLady]

Much better background check system that actually includes all felons and dv convictions and any ERPO removal of guns. This needs to be kept accurate and current and it needs to apply to every purchase of a gun and any transfers that are not between immediate family members.

IF a legal gun owner loses or has a gun stolen, the owner MUST report it to police. Otherwise, if the gun is used in a crime, that owner shares legal responsibility for the crime.

Ban AR-15's and similar assault rifles.

 

[Darkwind]

I am looking for solutions to gun violence. All sides. All sides need to be heard equally. Insulting a person is NOT a solution but part of the problem. IF you are going to post angry, do it somewhere else. If you are going to just troll, do it somewhere else. Post solutions as you see it and then let's discuss it.

Care to take that challenge?

Raise a better class of citizen.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Much better background check system that actually includes all felons and dv convictions and any ERPO removal of guns. This needs to be kept accurate and current and it needs to apply to every purchase of a gun and any transfers that are not between immediate family members.

IF a legal gun owner loses or has a gun stolen, the owner MUST report it to police. Otherwise, if the gun is used in a crime, that owner shares legal responsibility for the crime.

Ban AR-15's and similar assault rifles.

1. You are talking about National Background Checks. I agree. And background checks for all sales and transfers of weapons. The common person can still get the firearms easy enough and the criminal just lost one of his most sought after ways of procuring guns. And I would include inter family transfers as well.

2. If a Gun Owner has a gun stolen or lost and doesn't report it then he should be held totally responsible for how the gun is used. Same thing if he loans it out. He should be tried as if he were the one holding it. Firearm Security should not be such a joke.

No Firearms can be banned. You can bump it up to the next level though. Make it so that you have to have a FFL license to own one. Those with Firearms Licenses have NEVER been any problem at all. They abide by the laws, keep their firearms secure and don't go loaning them out to others. You want to steal the guns from a Gun Collector, better bring the tools to take out the entire side of his house so you can run your forklift inside and haul off his walk in gun safe. Meanwhile, all those pesky alarms going off and those ridiculous cops showing up to arrest your butt. The good news is, any one of us that can pass a current background check to obtain a hand gun can also pass a federal FFL License background check. Just pay the 200 bucks every 5 years and meet the security requirements. So don't ban it, regulate it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

330 million Americans in the USA and millions and millions of guns and the USA is a very peaceful place . I see no real problem with gun violence except for what has been call Black Swan events which simply means that there are some very unusual events [school shootings] every once in awhile . Fix the areas like schools or gun free zones where there are no men with guns . Then look at Courthouses and Government buildings where there are men with guns all over the place to see peaceful surroundings Daryl .

Yup. They should have metal detectors at all school and locked door except for ingress. We have them at all the court houses and they work.

Our schools already have officers on site. One of them was killed at the last school shooting down here. Have armed guards in all schools. Guards who will shoot.

I think you meant Egress. And I do like the idea of armed and trained Security Guards at Schools who are kept current. I don't like the idea of trying to force Teachers to be armed. Armed Teachers buy more problems than it cures. Metal Detectors really aren't a bad idea either if that is what it takes. But I don't want to see anything quite like what you would see at a Court House where you know you will have some really bad characters in there and need to have some equally bad characters to counteract them while they are going through the legal process. Students should not be treated like criminals.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I am looking for solutions to gun violence. All sides. All sides need to be heard equally. Insulting a person is NOT a solution but part of the problem. IF you are going to post angry, do it somewhere else. If you are going to just troll, do it somewhere else. Post solutions as you see it and then let's discuss it.

Care to take that challenge?

/——/ Open Carry and concealed carry nation -wide would end 90% of the violence.

 

[pismoe]

I am looking for solutions to gun violence. All sides. All sides need to be heard equally. Insulting a person is NOT a solution but part of the problem. IF you are going to post angry, do it somewhere else. If you are going to just troll, do it somewhere else. Post solutions as you see it and then let's discuss it.

Care to take that challenge?

/——/ Open Carry and concealed carry nation -wide would end 90% of the violence.

-------------------------------- Plus Constitutional Carry like is done in some USA States Nationwide . Criminals and 'hilaries' and mrobamas bodyguards carry when and where they want , why not Taxpayers CBlock .

 

[Skull Pilot]

Most gun violence in the US takes place in inner cities by druggies, gangs, illegals, minorities etc, even with strict gun control laws.

Gun crime is relatively low in White suburban and rural areas even with large gun ownership..

Until we figure out how to effectively deal with those thugs in the big shitholes nothing of substance can be done.

One thing for certain. Taking Constitutional rights away from those that didn't commit the crimes is not a solution.

I have been saying this very thing for months but no one cares about what is really driving our murder rate as much as they care about banning this or that gun or this or that magazine

 

[Skull Pilot]

330 million Americans in the USA and millions and millions of guns and the USA is a very peaceful place . I see no real problem with gun violence except for what has been call Black Swan events which simply means that there are some very unusual events [school shootings] every once in awhile . Fix the areas like schools or gun free zones where there are no men with guns . Then look at Courthouses and Government buildings where there are men with guns all over the place to see peaceful surroundings Daryl .

1. Only Some Americans own MOST of the Guns. Most Americans don't own any guns.

2. We are way past the "Every once in awhile" on the School Shootings

3. Schools should not be armed camps. Not real indusive to a good learning curve.

4. Courthouses are where you are supposed to have the bad guys. This is where you jail them (most jails are either in them or next to them), charge them and try them. In a way, it IS a gun free zone. Just the Cops have the guns. I just went through jury selection a few days ago and I really don't want the students of any school to have to go through that kind of entry point. Some are already doing it. A Courthouse is Supposed to much more dangerous than a Public School.

Now, how about let's work out how we do the solutions instead of just hashing out the problems. And let's not not use the tired old talking points. Talking Points are only designed to try and make the other person look dumber. In reality, they just make everyone using them look dumber.

I'll say it again

If you want to prevent school shootings you simply have to prevent people from walking into a school with guns

 

[Flash]

Most gun violence in the US takes place in inner cities by druggies, gangs, illegals, minorities etc, even with strict gun control laws.

Gun crime is relatively low in White suburban and rural areas even with large gun ownership..

Until we figure out how to effectively deal with those thugs in the big shitholes nothing of substance can be done.

One thing for certain. Taking Constitutional rights away from those that didn't commit the crimes is not a solution.

I have been saying this very thing for months but no one cares about what is really driving our murder rate as much as they care about banning this or that gun or this or that magazine

The Liberals don't want to hear that reality.

That is because their agenda is not public safety.

Their agenda is to take away the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to the Left's agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

 

[Pop23]

2/3rds of all gun deaths are suicide. But a gun isn’t a requirement, so there is nothing you can do

80% of the rest are gang related. It’s organized crime, treat it as such and that problem is solved.

The rest:

Domestics: many deaths are by the weaker killing the stronger while defending self. If a gun isn’t available the killings will likely happen using different tool. Not much you can do.

Cops shootings. Mostly defending self or others. Nothing can nor should be done.

Accidents: stupid people will do stupid things and you won’t stop that

Then there are the mass shootings, mostly at schools. Stop drugging our bullied kids

What gun problem?