Post Office to stop Saturday Delivery

[RoadVirus]

Makes sense

Frankly, I could probably get by with two day a week mail delivery

I'm sure those Americans that run small businesses would feel differently. My dad for example. He runs an appliance repair business. The mail delivers payments from customers. Can't run a business without those checks rolling on in.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Postal Service to cut Saturday mail to trim costs | US National Headlines | Comcast

The U.S. Postal Service will stop delivering mail on Saturdays but continue to deliver packages six days a week under a plan aimed at saving about $2 billion annually, the financially struggling agency says.

In an announcement scheduled for later Wednesday, the service is expected to say the Saturday mail cutback would begin in August.

The move accentuates one of the agency's strong points — package delivery has increased by 14 percent since 2010, officials say, while the delivery of letters and other mail has declined with the increasing use of email and other Internet services.

How about stop all delivery ? Government mismanagement at its best. They can keep all there junk mail, what a dinosaur.

Good. One less day I fill the trash can with the garbage delivered to me home.
If the USPS would stop permitting junk mail it would probably reduce it's mail volume by 50% and thus run somewhat efficiently.

 

[Politico]

August? What a coincidence! This board is scheduled to end in August. According to a thread on this board and he did provide a link to verify it. It may be the board is due to renew but it says its closing.

I do not understand this post.

I think we should start a 10 year program of strategic phasing out of the Postal Service. As we phase out the postal carriers, UPS, Fed Ex, and others will take over.

However there must be strict price controls in place to assure those that wish can still mail letters for the USPS rate.

And who would pay for that?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Good. One less day I fill the trash can with the garbage delivered to me home.
If the USPS would stop permitting junk mail it would probably reduce it's mail volume by 50% and thus run somewhat efficiently.

why would it do that?.....that is a multi billion dollar a year business....this kind of mail is not the reason the PO is losing money....

 

[thereisnospoon]

why not just relieve them of the burden the republicans saddled them with

We all know you're a lying sack of shit but you've been spanked on this one before.

The law that imposed that "burden" (Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act) was not only co-sponsored by oh-so-conservative Henry Waxman (D), it passed the House on a vote of 410 to 20. That's as bi-partisan as you get.

Lying the first time was bad enough, but doing it again AFTER having your enormous ass handed to you is just pathetic on your part.

Yeah yeah yeah..I have endured this BS argument from Pro union libs. So the reason the federal government pre loaded the pension was simple. With the USPS being the largest federal department of course it would have the most retirees. Something had to be done to insure the money to pay these people was at least on paper, in place. SO the pension was funded with present dollars. The thinking was I imabine that the USPS which at that time was actually making money.
So let's see. Suppose Congress yanks the money out of the fund and puts it back into the operations of the USPS. Guess what? All the bitching and moaning from USPS workers and retirees would rise to a deafening crescendo. It's a no win situation.
No matter what, there will be people complaining.
Of course the pro union people, including some politicians from big labor states would suggest something ridiculous such as, taxing the internet. A fee for every email sent. Or an additional tax on all package shipments of less than one pound NOT sent via the USPS.
Typical of government to not want the competition and figure out a way to use its taxing authority to gain an advantage.

 

[thereisnospoon]

why not just relieve them of the burden the republicans saddled them with

We all know you're a lying sack of shit but you've been spanked on this one before.

The law that imposed that "burden" (Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act) was not only co-sponsored by oh-so-conservative Henry Waxman (D), it passed the House on a vote of 410 to 20. That's as bi-partisan as you get.

Lying the first time was bad enough, but doing it again AFTER having your enormous ass handed to you is just pathetic on your part.

The legislation was poorly designed, has been poorly implemented, and has hurt the USPS.

The USPS hurts itself because the system is inefficient and the pricing schedule is stupid.
Why ship a letter across the country for the same price as shipping a letter across town?
Postal rates should be set by the distance the package travels.
UPS has zone rates. Why not the USPS?

 

[syrenn]

already proved the founders wanted a post office.

they gave the government the power to create and run it.


The republicans burdened the post office with an unprecidented retirement requirement

the unions did that you idiot hack..


i dont have any issue with Saturday delivery being stopped. I say they don't fire anyone... and just make all of the carriers part time. That would solve all of the issues.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The founders never expected it to pay for its self

And of course you can provide the text of that very statement?
The federal government is also essentially barred from owning or operating a for profit business.
Of course the geniuses in Washington broke their own rules when it began operating the USPS as a for profit business as well as the TVA the same.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The Post Office Is Not Broke | The Nation


At the behest of the Republican-controlled Congress of the Bush-Cheney era, the USPS has been forced since 2006 to pre-fund future retiree health benefits. As the American Postal Workers Union notes, “This mandate is the primary cause of the agency’s financial crisis. No other government agency or private company bears this burden, which costs the USPS approximately $5.5 billion annually.”

Now, however, we learn that the pre-funding requirements have taken so much money from the USPS that—according to the postal service’s own inspector general—it has “significantly exceeded” the level of reserved money that the federal government or private corporations divert to meet future pension and retiree healthcare demands. “Using ratepayer funds, it has built a war chest of over $326 billion to address its future liabilities,” acknowledges Postal Service Inspector General David C. Williams

ISn't supposed to pay for itself huh?
You stupid little girl...
TITLE IV--PROVISIONS RELATING TO FAIR COMPETITION

SEC. 401. POSTAL SERVICE COMPETITIVE PRODUCTS FUND.

(a) Provisions Relating to Postal Service Competitive Products Fund
and Related Matters.--
(1) In general.--Chapter 20 of title 39, United States Code,
is amended by adding at the end the following:

``Sec. 2011. Provisions relating to competitive products

``(a)(1) In this subsection, the term `costs attributable' has the
meaning given such term by section 3631.
``(2) There is established in the Treasury of the United States a
revolving fund, to be called the Postal Service Competitive Products
Fund, which shall be available to the Postal Service without fiscal year
limitation for the payment of--
``(A) costs attributable to competitive products; and
``(B) all other costs incurred by the Postal Service, to the
extent allocable to competitive products.

``(b) There shall be deposited in the Competitive Products Fund,
subject to withdrawal by the Postal Service--
``(1) revenues from competitive products;
SHUT IT....You room temperature IQ pea brain

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yes it is.

And....the USPS is not a consumer of tax dollars. It is a fantastic example of a government run program that kicks ass!

The poison pill that Congress forced down the USPS throat should be repealed.

An outdated delivery system that is billions in the red is an example of something that "kicks ass"?

Are you high?

Ever notice who defends the USPS on here.
Libs. Pro union libs.
That's the entire crux of the matter. Protecting union jobs. Period.

 

[thereisnospoon]

If you hate the post office you hate the founders idea

If you hate guns you hate the founders idea

You're confused. The 2nd amendment has little to do with now. There is no need for militias. And the right to bear arms does not mean assault weapons, because the founders couldn't have envisioned that.

Blah blah blah....
The Founders never envisioned cars aircraft electricity and the internet. Shall we get rid of those too?.
One thing is for sure, you libs would not last three days without modern conveniences. You'd be helpless, run to the nearest politician to help you. In absence of that, you'd all starve to death.

 

[sfcalifornia]

We all know you're a lying sack of shit but you've been spanked on this one before.

The law that imposed that "burden" (Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act) was not only co-sponsored by oh-so-conservative Henry Waxman (D), it passed the House on a vote of 410 to 20. That's as bi-partisan as you get.

Lying the first time was bad enough, but doing it again AFTER having your enormous ass handed to you is just pathetic on your part.

The legislation was poorly designed, has been poorly implemented, and has hurt the USPS.

The USPS hurts itself because the system is inefficient and the pricing schedule is stupid.
Why ship a letter across the country for the same price as shipping a letter across town?
Postal rates should be set by the distance the package travels.
UPS has zone rates. Why not the USPS?

Because it's 46 cents. Who gives a shit. You're welcome to spend the $25 dollars Fedex charges to send a letter from coast to coast if you feel that strongly about it.

 

[Political Junky]

The Post Office Is Not Broke | The Nation


At the behest of the Republican-controlled Congress of the Bush-Cheney era, the USPS has been forced since 2006 to pre-fund future retiree health benefits. As the American Postal Workers Union notes, “This mandate is the primary cause of the agency’s financial crisis. No other government agency or private company bears this burden, which costs the USPS approximately $5.5 billion annually.”

Now, however, we learn that the pre-funding requirements have taken so much money from the USPS that—according to the postal service’s own inspector general—it has “significantly exceeded” the level of reserved money that the federal government or private corporations divert to meet future pension and retiree healthcare demands. “Using ratepayer funds, it has built a war chest of over $326 billion to address its future liabilities,” acknowledges Postal Service Inspector General David C. Williams

Yes, cons want the USPS out of business ... they're unionized. The GOP wants privatized everything.

 

[sfcalifornia]

If you hate guns you hate the founders idea

You're confused. The 2nd amendment has little to do with now. There is no need for militias. And the right to bear arms does not mean assault weapons, because the founders couldn't have envisioned that.

Blah blah blah....
The Founders never envisioned cars aircraft electricity and the internet. Shall we get rid of those too?.
One thing is for sure, you libs would not last three days without modern conveniences. You'd be helpless, run to the nearest politician to help you. In absence of that, you'd all starve to death.

That's ridiculous. Libs wouldn't last three days? What makes you think survival is contingent on party affiliation?

 

[LoneLaugher]

If you hate guns you hate the founders idea

You're confused. The 2nd amendment has little to do with now. There is no need for militias. And the right to bear arms does not mean assault weapons, because the founders couldn't have envisioned that.

Blah blah blah....
The Founders never envisioned cars aircraft electricity and the internet. Shall we get rid of those too?.
One thing is for sure, you libs would not last three days without modern conveniences. You'd be helpless, run to the nearest politician to help you. In absence of that, you'd all starve to death.

Don't you think you are just a little bit off the mark with that one? Statements like that exposé you for the dummy you are.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Good. One less day I fill the trash can with the garbage delivered to me home.
If the USPS would stop permitting junk mail it would probably reduce it's mail volume by 50% and thus run somewhat efficiently.

why would it do that?.....that is a multi billion dollar a year business....this kind of mail is not the reason the PO is losing money....

No.... the fact that you have temporary seasonal employees enjoying the same benefits as full time postal workers IS. With the advancements of the Internet, paying bills online, etc .... the United States Post Office is left to only provide those services that directly compete with UPS and Federal Express. This is the result of holding onto heavy burdening "cushion" entitlement benefits that comes into contact with, and meets head on to more higher efficiency cost effective services. If the United States Post Office doesn't cut away its fat of al their entitlement comforts, they will find themselves a thing of the past..... like the pony express.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We all know you're a lying sack of shit but you've been spanked on this one before.

The law that imposed that "burden" (Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act) was not only co-sponsored by oh-so-conservative Henry Waxman (D), it passed the House on a vote of 410 to 20. That's as bi-partisan as you get.

Lying the first time was bad enough, but doing it again AFTER having your enormous ass handed to you is just pathetic on your part.

The legislation was poorly designed, has been poorly implemented, and has hurt the USPS.

The USPS hurts itself because the system is inefficient and the pricing schedule is stupid.
Why ship a letter across the country for the same price as shipping a letter across town?
Postal rates should be set by the distance the package travels.
UPS has zone rates. Why not the USPS?

talk to your Congress people.....the PO has no control over this....and they have been trying for years to get a say on what they charge....

 

[Harry Dresden]

already proved the founders wanted a post office.

they gave the government the power to create and run it.


The republicans burdened the post office with an unprecidented retirement requirement

the unions did that you idiot hack..


i dont have any issue with Saturday delivery being stopped. I say they don't fire anyone... and just make all of the carriers part time. That would solve all of the issues.

it would make things worse syrenn....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The founders never expected it to pay for its self

And of course you can provide the text of that very statement?
The federal government is also essentially barred from owning or operating a for profit business.
Of course the geniuses in Washington broke their own rules when it began operating the USPS as a for profit business as well as the TVA the same.

since when?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yes it is.

And....the USPS is not a consumer of tax dollars. It is a fantastic example of a government run program that kicks ass!

The poison pill that Congress forced down the USPS throat should be repealed.

An outdated delivery system that is billions in the red is an example of something that "kicks ass"?

Are you high?

Ever notice who defends the USPS on here.
Libs. Pro union libs.
That's the entire crux of the matter. Protecting union jobs. Period.

and also the people who actually have worked there who ACTUALLY know how the place is run.....some of the stuff that is said about the PO is by people on the outside looking in.....and lots of it is not true....