Portland kidnappers are LE or military?

[JoeB131]

You keep telling yourself that, the AG is moving to have the case dismissed. He said the couple was within their rights under State law. Now it's coming out that the commie prosecutor had the lab fudge evidence against the wife. The pistol wasn't operable, but the prosecutor had her lab restore it to working condition. She should be disbarred and prosecuted.

None of which is terribly relevent, buddy.

 

[JoeB131]

The Governor and State AG work against the people of their states, and something will be done about it. They could go to jail for proffering criminality to destroy other people's right to the pursuit of happiness under the constitution which the Demonrats-gone-commie. And the President has the right to defend federal property, Mr. High and Mighty Joe.

Sure. You want to put guards around the building and keep people from tagging it... not problem.

Scooping people off the street without charges.. that's another issue.

 

[candycorn]

No, it is not ok, Gracie.

Uh, yes, it is ok. Loot, riot, destroy, attack...you get hauled off. Period.

We have never needed or used Secret Police/Gestapo before, why do we need them now?

Because we are not what we used to be. Things have changed. Which means enforcement is being changed too. NONE of this would be necessary if this was not still going on months later. Won't change tomorrow either. But maybe..just maybe...some idiots will go home and stfu.

Thanks for confirming the dismal job your blob has done. Perhaps you should consider voting for someone else.

 

[OKTexas]

You keep telling yourself that, the AG is moving to have the case dismissed. He said the couple was within their rights under State law. Now it's coming out that the commie prosecutor had the lab fudge evidence against the wife. The pistol wasn't operable, but the prosecutor had her lab restore it to working condition. She should be disbarred and prosecuted.

None of which is terribly relevent, buddy.

You're a liar and a troll. Justice would be these assholes burning your house down.

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[OKTexas]

The Governor and State AG work against the people of their states, and something will be done about it. They could go to jail for proffering criminality to destroy other people's right to the pursuit of happiness under the constitution which the Demonrats-gone-commie. And the President has the right to defend federal property, Mr. High and Mighty Joe.

Sure. You want to put guards around the building and keep people from tagging it... not problem.

Scooping people off the street without charges.. that's another issue.

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[JoeB131]

You're a liar and a troll. Justice would be these assholes burning your house down.

Then I'd collect my insurance and get a nicer one. Check your privilege, buddy.

 

[OKTexas]

No, it is not ok, Gracie.

Uh, yes, it is ok. Loot, riot, destroy, attack...you get hauled off. Period.

We have never needed or used Secret Police/Gestapo before, why do we need them now?

Because we are not what we used to be. Things have changed. Which means enforcement is being changed too. NONE of this would be necessary if this was not still going on months later. Won't change tomorrow either. But maybe..just maybe...some idiots will go home and stfu.

Thanks for confirming the dismal job your blob has done. Perhaps you should consider voting for someone else.

Actually it's the State and local officials that are doing a dismal job, when rioters use deadly force, so should the cops.

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[OKTexas]

You're a liar and a troll. Justice would be these assholes burning your house down.

Then I'd collect my insurance and get a nicer one. Check your privilege, buddy.

You might want to check your policy, many don't cover riots. And take your commie talking points and shove them.

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[Lysistrata]

Bullshit, this kind of crap, caused by you commies, has been happening since wild willie was in the oval. Your rights end when you start infringing on the rights of others.

I don't remember riots when Obama was in charge. Not nation-wide ones that lasted for weeks, anyway.
I don't remember riots when Bush was in charge
I don't remember riots when Clinton was in charge.
There were riots under George H. Bush... but he handled them a LOT better than Trump has. HE still lost.

People wouldn't allow it to last for weeks, they put a stop to it. wild willie put another 100,000 cops on the streets. Now you have ******* politicians tying the hands of the police and you cry like a baby when citizens take their protection in their own hands. maobamas own CDC said that citizens use firearms for defensive purposes around 2 million times a year. That couple are not unique.

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Only the feds are "tying the hands of the police." The state and local police must stop these thugs, ask for ID, and tell them that they must wear uniforms and badges, if they are out "enforcing" FEDERAL law. I'm not sure that the trump's thug army has the authority to enforce state or local law. As we have seen in Portland, some of these thugs are committing crimes, and therefore should be arrested by state and local authorities. Moreover, any citizen has the right to ask any LEO for legitimate identification. When is the guy who beat up the Navy Vet going to be arrested and charged?

People who are out of uniform and have no ID have no right to patrol any street in the U.S., much less attack people.

Child, you have been dismissed because you can't stop talking and refuse to provide evidence to back up your crap.

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It is obvious that trump is working for putin to destroy the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Please grow up. You are not in the third grade anymore. The lack of an invitation to be in Portland, the lack of uniforms, and the lack of ID are the hallmarks of pure dishonesty and thuggery. No honest person does this and no honest person supports this. Now the state and local cops will have to follow them around and arrest them for any crimes they commit. The situation demonstrates just how filthy and criminal the orange whore is.

Stop ******* lying, every federal officer you see in camo were patches of the agency they are in, AND they wear an identifying number that can be traced back to each individual. They don't wear name tags so you commies can't dox them and threaten them and their families. If you don't like it, tough shit. Also the commie leadership of Portland has ZERO ******* say when it comes to the feds protecting federal property. That's the law. Now stop spewing your ******* commie propaganda and get back to the kiddo's table.

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They still have to wear IDs and uniforms. Everyone has to wear ID, not only them. Look at any cop's uniform, anywhere. It is fundamentally un-American to send anonymous and violent storm troopers to invade a city against the wishes of elected officials. Now the Oregon police are going to have to police this trash to make sure that they are following the well-established rules of policing and file the proper paperwork, which does require, at the least, that the arresting officer write a description of what the person arrested was doing and sign it. Do you know how many people were detained and whether the records pertaining to their detention and/or arrest has been filed yet? Does the Portland Police Department even have them? Have all the detainees been located? Interviewed? Does the department even have a list of who these invaders are? Do they stay on federal property? Has there been any progress made on arresting the thug who beat up that Navy vet?

There is absolutely no evidence that any person in any official position in Portland is a communist, and this situation has nothing to do with economic systems, so stop lying. State and local officials have demanded that they leave. So be quiet, finish your homework, and maybe someday you will grow up and finish school, hopefully after you have finished a basic course in the U.S. Constitution.

I'm going to do something that to date your lazy commie ass hasn't done. Here's a link to the law that allows the feds to protect federal property. The local commies (which is an ideology, not just an economic system) have zero to say about it.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:40%20section:1315%20edition:prelim)

Also if people are arrested or detained on federal charges, the local PD wouldn't get or be entitled to the paperwork. You'll also note that the people in the photo below are wearing ID patches and is says "police" on their vests.
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So enough with your commie lies.

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Where did you get the idea that the local and state officials, or myself, are "commies"? This stupid name-calling bit just reveals you as ignorant.

• These folks are only authorized to protect federal property. They have no authority to operate elsewhere, or just pull someone into an unmarked car.
• Legitimate LEO's must wear uniforms and ID badges that identify them by name and agency. Just saying "police" is totally inadequate.
• Even if a person is detained on federal charges, an arrest report must be filed to even begin to establish probable cause. Probable cause must always be shown, which involves the arresting officer. Let's see the arraignment documents. No one has the authority to free themselves from the basic requirements of our Constitution and laws. The next time that you want to wave the flag or put on your red, white, and blue, think about this. These are the laws of the U.S.A.

A few hours ago, I saw an interview with the former assistant director of counterintelligence for the FBI, someone whom I recall as a former director of Homeland Security under Dubya, and a journalist who has covered related issues. It's interesting that the former FBI assistant director warned that the people who are in these storm-trooper brigades should make sure that their liability insurance coverage is up to date. They all mentioned the same points that I just typed above, and several mayors have called upon Congress to begin investigative hearings immediately. Call me any name you wish, including the hilarious "commie," but our Constitution and laws MUST be followed. This situation is very serious and is doing lasting damage to the Republic.

All your ranting and writing about the law in this country, and nothing about the law breaker's. It appears that you support lawlessness and law breaking in this country. If not then how does law breaking override law enforcement in a case with someone like you ???

Dingbat, trump's thugs ARE breaking the law. Several, in fact. The local and state police deal with ordinary lawbreakers. You know damned well I don't support "lawlessness and law breaking in this country," but it appears that you don't support our constitution and laws. You opening state it.

 

[JoeB131]

You might want to check your policy, many don't cover riots. And take your commie talking points and shove them.

Actually, they do.

Civil disorders and insurance | III

www.iii.org

Standard homeowners policies will cover damage to the property caused by fire, an explosion, a riot or civil commotion, vandalism or malicious mischief. This would include coverage to the structure of the home, as well as any personal possessions. If you cannot live at your home because it was damaged by an insured disaster, standard home (and renters insurance policies) provide coverage for additional living expenses (ALE). This pays for the cost of living away from home above and beyond traditional expenses. For instance, ALE covers hotel bills and restaurant meals incurred while a home is being repaired or rebuilt.

 

[Jarlaxle]

None of which is terribly relevent(sic), buddy.

You're a liar and a troll. Justice would be these assholes burning your house down.

With him inside.

 

[Mac-7]

As long as Democrat leaders are letting the rioters go with out prosecution or even bail for their violence I have no problem with it. These idiots are acting like animals specifically because they are not being held accountable for their actions and are now emboldened.

Thats it in a nutshell

 

[Mac-7]

You might want to check your policy, many don't cover riots. And take your commie talking points and shove them.

Actually, they do.

Civil disorders and insurance | III

www.iii.org

Standard homeowners policies will cover damage to the property caused by fire, an explosion, a riot or civil commotion, vandalism or malicious mischief. This would include coverage to the structure of the home, as well as any personal possessions. If you cannot live at your home because it was damaged by an insured disaster, standard home (and renters insurance policies) provide coverage for additional living expenses (ALE). This pays for the cost of living away from home above and beyond traditional expenses. For instance, ALE covers hotel bills and restaurant meals incurred while a home is being repaired or rebuilt.

Does your policy say that rates in your city wont go up after the riots?

 

[Markle]

The gates to their property had been breached by violent demonstrators. They were protecting their persons and their property from being injured, killed or their home looted and set on fire.

Should they have simply run for their lives and turned their home over to ANTIFA?

Menacing? Menacing? Who was being menaced? The law-abiding family or the terrorists?

None of these demonstrators attacked any of the homes. They were peacefully demonstrating.

And again, this is not the first time Ken and Karen McShooty have threatened their neighbors with guns.

Did they have ID showing that they were peacefully demonstrating, and that they were sanctioned by the city through proper permits to assemble and peacefully demonstrate and/or protest ??? Did this couple know who these so called masked marauders uh I mean peaceful protestor's were, otherwise when they crashed a gate therefore entering into a private community to maybe peacefully protest ???? You are such a troll that it ain't funny JoeB.

Were there not gates and signs proclaiming those as Private Roads and other signs saying No Trespassing?

Was this NOT happening in St. Louis at the time?

Photo Gallery: Riots and looting in downtown St. Louis
NEWS
by: Becky Willeke
Posted: Jun 1, 2020 / 10:37 PM CDT / Updated: Jun 1, 2020 / 10:37 PM CDT

• Looters set fire to convenience store while a crowd protests near St. Louis Police headquarters

ST. LOUIS – A protest turned violent Monday night in downtown St. Louis. The demonstrators came face-to-face with police before some made their way to a nearby 7-11. People started looting the store then it was set on fire.

Photo Gallery: Riots and looting in downtown St. Louis

ST. LOUIS – A protest turned violent Monday night in downtown St. Louis. The demonstrators came face-to-face with police before some made their way to a nearby 7-11. People started looting th…

fox2now.com

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So, would you NOT feel the need to protect your home when a mob disobeys multiple signs warning them to not enter?

They're blocking highways, looting, destroying property and setting fires.

You would do nothing to protect yourself, your loved ones and your property.

What a guy!

 

[OnePercenter]

Pointing a gun at someone when you are not being threatened IS NOT self-defense.

Knowing that there have been riots, assaults, murders, looting and arson in other locations, and this happened to you, what would you do?

" The couple confronted the group of about 300 protesters after they breached a gate in the neighborhood, according to a local NBC affiliate."

"Personal injury lawyers Mark McCloskey, 63, and his wife Patricia, 61, told KMOV4 that they were having dinner with family outside their home when the BLM protesters broke through iron gates marked with “No Trespassing” and “Private Street” and “rushed” towards their home."

St. Louis Couple Uses Pistol, AR-15 to Defend Their Home from Protesters

A barefoot couple in St. Louis, Missouri, brandished an AR-15 and a pistol to defend their home Sunday as a group of approximately 300 protesters marched through their gated neighborhood. The couple confronted the group of about 300 protesters after they breached a gate in the neighborhood...

www.truthandaction.org

Did they call the cops?

 

[Markle]

You keep telling yourself that, the AG is moving to have the case dismissed. He said the couple was within their rights under State law. Now it's coming out that the commie prosecutor had the lab fudge evidence against the wife. The pistol wasn't operable, but the prosecutor had her lab restore it to working condition. She should be disbarred and prosecuted.

None of which is terribly relevent, buddy.

 

[Rambunctious]

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Free countries also don't allow or condone large masses of people to destroy private property, pull people out of their cars and beat them, attack and kill LE. Those who do those things should not be surprised when they are gathered up and hauled off. They are terrorists.

We are not free to break laws in the streets because you don't like our country.....if you do that you deserve to be arrested....IMO...

 

[OnePercenter]

The chaos these assholes are causing in Portland doesn't serve anyone but Americans who want communism, ie. Democrats. Anything bad that happens to those people is fine with me. They're depriving Americans of their freedom and liberty. **** antifa and BLM.

When was this ever about communism or depriving Americans of their freedom and liberty? These protesters are protesting the denial of freedom and liberty. That's why they are there. It's the "conservatives" who attack the freedom and liberty of their fellow Americans on the basis of skin color, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Stop attacking your fellow Americans.

Don't play duh with this board Lysis. The Democrat Party is going through the motions of begetting chaos on account of the temper tantrums the nation clearly saw when Hillary Clinton was given a pink slip by voters in America and her opponent, President Trump won. Instead of letting power transfer peacefully, Obama, Biden, Clinton, Waters, Pelosi, and other sleazebag Sociocommunist Deep Staters in the Democrat Party conspired to initiate an illegal and a traitorous coup on President Trump, by making his life hell on earth with their evil, anti-American, United States Constitution-destroying Democrat attitudes, and they used a highly compromised FBI and other agencies to do it, and needless to say, Hillary Clinton authored the pee and prostitutes scurrilous defamation against President Trump well after he'd taken his oath of office.

Why Hillary Clinton isn't on trial for treason is something I would like to know the whys and wherefores of. She used FBI files for everything she did, except for her creative calumnies performed by her and her minions against the man who defeated her sorry ass for President.

Guess the Democrats are angry and feel like beating up America with BLM murders masquerading as civil rights protests. I'd like to see those damn traitors in jail. What a sorry thing that a former First Lady who was too high and mighty to bake cookies in the White House decided to launch a crime wave against President Trump.

I hate the vile groupies that are carrying out their Democrat sociocommunist leaders tell them to do and add their own little touches like murdering little children with wild shooting out of passing cars in drive by shootings. I hope each and every child murderer is apprehended and gets the chair. I hope the FBI does their real job and cleans out the deep state evil doers who cause others to riot and kill people. They're bad apples, rotten to the core.

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote so your post is moot.

And your post is irrelevant.

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Why?

Because the popular vote and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee in some places. Democracy ends at the State line.

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Which is why the election should be a vote of the people ONLY.

 

[Markle]

Pointing a gun at someone when you are not being threatened IS NOT self-defense.

Knowing that there have been riots, assaults, murders, looting and arson in other locations, and this happened to you, what would you do?

" The couple confronted the group of about 300 protesters after they breached a gate in the neighborhood, according to a local NBC affiliate."

"Personal injury lawyers Mark McCloskey, 63, and his wife Patricia, 61, told KMOV4 that they were having dinner with family outside their home when the BLM protesters broke through iron gates marked with “No Trespassing” and “Private Street” and “rushed” towards their home."

St. Louis Couple Uses Pistol, AR-15 to Defend Their Home from Protesters

A barefoot couple in St. Louis, Missouri, brandished an AR-15 and a pistol to defend their home Sunday as a group of approximately 300 protesters marched through their gated neighborhood. The couple confronted the group of about 300 protesters after they breached a gate in the neighborhood...

www.truthandaction.org

Did they call the cops?

Yeah, the police had done a world of good in St. Louis!

St. Louis

St. Louis

St. Louis

 

[Markle]

Which is why the election should be a vote of the people ONLY.