Portland investigating possible Supremacist within police force.

[pknopp]

No, the KKK doesn't. They are the KKK, we know their position because they are honest about it.

Please show me where the KKK denies being the KKK.

Ask the question in a more honest form. I never said they deny being the KKK.

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

 

[pknopp]

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

Wow, talk about projection.

Sorry, but your assumptions don't equal reality.

Not to those who support what he said.

More assumptions.

Just to fit your narrative.

The replies in support of what Trump said were abundant.

From many people, or are you saying just racists?

Those four are a bunch of idiotic twats. Does that make me racist?

I don't recall all your positions yet.

 

[MisterBeale]

Ask the question in a more honest form. I never said they deny being the KKK.

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

What wasn't factual?

 

[pknopp]

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

What wasn't factual?

I stated what wasn't factual.

 

[Lysistrata]

Portlanders are just like Seattleites, they hate conservative Christians and equate them to white supremacists, regardless if it makes absolutely no sense to do so in reality.
Joey Gibson is half Japanese from what I heard. I doubt he qualifies for membership in any white racialist group.

But leftists stay stupid and believe this nonsense.

So all citizens of two cities "hate" a certain specific religious group? How would you know this? Your assertion is utter nonsense.

The only critical issue here, as always in every community, is whether the community can have confidence that members of its police force are capable of doing their jobs serving the community in a fair and unbiased manner or whether they conduct their official duties in a biased manner. This question has arisen within several communities across the country when evidence of bias by officers has surfaced. This not some political jargon. It is critical as it speaks directly to how authority is awarded and the confidence the community can have in the way that authority is exercised.

The investigation of police activity should not be conducted by the police.

 

[martybegan]

No, the KKK doesn't. They are the KKK, we know their position because they are honest about it.

Please show me where the KKK denies being the KKK.

Ask the question in a more honest form. I never said they deny being the KKK.

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

The modern KKK continues to maintain they are nothing more than what the Black Panthers or La Raza are, except for white folks, a "white nationalist," organization.

The corporate press does a good job of confusing and muddling the difference between separatism/nationalism and supremacy. I see even YOU used the two interchangeably.



Of course, EDUCATED AMERICANS know, that our culture is a heterogeneous melting pot, and to speak of balkanization of any type, or to think in terms of things like, "cultural appropriation," which, to be honest, is the extreme left pushing ethno-nationalism, would only further the destruction of that which is a uniquely American Experience.

Byrd was a member of the 1920's Klan, which was different from the 1980's Klan Duke was a member of, and both were different from the 1870's and 1960's Klans, which were the most violent.

The 20's Klan billed itself as some sort of WASP Fraternal Organization, like the Masons. They had the racism in it, but it was also mixed with Antisemitism, Anti popery, and other Nativist sentiments. The 1980's clan was the remnants of the 1960's clan, and pretty much a joke.

Personally to me Separatists/Nationalists and Supremacists are all assholes, I don't need to divide them up to suit their interests. I usually use the term "White Power Types" to cover all the bases.

 

[iceberg]

Google is your friend, you cheap, dime store hack.

Seems it's not yours.

Full text: Donald Trump says “racism is evil” in his latest statement on Charlottesville

As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of bigotry, hatred, and violence. It has no place in America. And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws; we all salute the same great flag; and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must discover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans. Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

 

[martybegan]

Wow, talk about projection.

Sorry, but your assumptions don't equal reality.

Not to those who support what he said.

More assumptions.

Just to fit your narrative.

The replies in support of what Trump said were abundant.

From many people, or are you saying just racists?

Those four are a bunch of idiotic twats. Does that make me racist?

I don't recall all your positions yet.

But you assume them, like a typical prog jackass.

You have to be a sock for one of our more stupid prog posters, I haven't figured out which one yet.

 

[pknopp]

Seems it's not yours.

Full text: Donald Trump says “racism is evil” in his latest statement on Charlottesville

As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of bigotry, hatred, and violence. It has no place in America. And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws; we all salute the same great flag; and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must discover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans. Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

It was about the color of their skin. Trump never told a white person to "go back from where they came".

 

[pknopp]

Not to those who support what he said.

More assumptions.

Just to fit your narrative.

The replies in support of what Trump said were abundant.

From many people, or are you saying just racists?

Those four are a bunch of idiotic twats. Does that make me racist?

I don't recall all your positions yet.

But you assume them, like a typical prog jackass.

You have to be a sock for one of our more stupid prog posters, I haven't figured out which one yet.

I assumed nothing. You asked and I said that I did not know.

 

[MisterBeale]

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

What wasn't factual?

I stated what wasn't factual.

Till very late in his career, or the Klan history? It is all a matter of perspective.

It doesn't change what was in the mind of Senator Byrd in his Senatorial career;

"In 1964, Senator Robert Byrd led a filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, as well as most of the anti-poverty programs of President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society initiative. In the debate against anti-poverty legislation, Byrd stated, “we can take the people out of the slums, but we cannot take the slums out of the people.”


I find it interesting that both Byrd and Duke were involved in the Klan for almost the exact amount of time, up until around their thirties, don't you? And generally, both have similar outlooks. Interesting that.

 

[22lcidw]

Full text: Donald Trump says “racism is evil” in his latest statement on Charlottesville

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

It was about the color of their skin. Trump never told a white person to "go back from where they came".

Most likely he probably has. Its just that you make mountains out of molehills for everything. And you take important issues and cheapen them because of it. You spend so much time infiltrating government to destroy people you forget there is a private side to things.

 

[Papageorgio]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Texts between Joey Gibson, the leader of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, and Portland police Lt. Jeff Niiya have been criticized by officials in Oregon's largest city.

"Disturbing" texts between Oregon police and far-right group prompt investigation

The guy is innocent until proven guilty but what I really like here is that the city removed the investigation from the hands of the police force. We have to stop allowing the police to investigate themselves. Here we have another example of moving in the right direction.


Officials and activists also voiced concern about the texts and demanded that Mayor Ted Wheeler order an independent investigation — and not one headed by Portland Police Chief Danielle Outlaw as he first suggested. The mayor relented late Friday and said he will be working on how the new inquiry will take shape.


"I will order an independent investigation to review the existence of bias in the actions of the [Portland Police Bureau] leading up to and during demonstrations involving alt-right and anti-fascist protesters," he said in a statement, adding that he has "heard from the people of Portland" and will also work with Outlaw to implement training for police in identifying white supremacy.

What about the bias on the state level toward ANTIFA? Why did the Governor of Oregon ask the Portland Police Department to stand down when ANTIFA was demonstrating?

 

[MisterBeale]

Full text: Donald Trump says “racism is evil” in his latest statement on Charlottesville

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

It was about the color of their skin. Trump never told a white person to "go back from where they came".

That is a very good point.


Interesting that nearly all western nations with Caucasians do better than those nations that the west invades and colonizes for resources. Or despicable. Depending on ones POV?

Either way, I suggest this book; Guns, Germs, and Steel - Wikipedia


It has nothing to do with race, just a circumstance of history.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Ask the question in a more honest form. I never said they deny being the KKK.

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

Byrd was the GRAND MASTER of the KLAN.... Your a fucking idiot retard...

Just another thread where leftists are throwing shit at the wall hoping something sticks... The only place its is sticking is on you... LIARS!

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Texts between Joey Gibson, the leader of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, and Portland police Lt. Jeff Niiya have been criticized by officials in Oregon's largest city.

"Disturbing" texts between Oregon police and far-right group prompt investigation

The guy is innocent until proven guilty but what I really like here is that the city removed the investigation from the hands of the police force. We have to stop allowing the police to investigate themselves. Here we have another example of moving in the right direction.


Officials and activists also voiced concern about the texts and demanded that Mayor Ted Wheeler order an independent investigation — and not one headed by Portland Police Chief Danielle Outlaw as he first suggested. The mayor relented late Friday and said he will be working on how the new inquiry will take shape.


"I will order an independent investigation to review the existence of bias in the actions of the [Portland Police Bureau] leading up to and during demonstrations involving alt-right and anti-fascist protesters," he said in a statement, adding that he has "heard from the people of Portland" and will also work with Outlaw to implement training for police in identifying white supremacy.

Patriot Prayer denies being a White Supremacist group.

Are you one of those idiots that tries to equate White Power morons to anyone to the right of Mitt Romney?

Yep. They mayor is an antifa supporting thug.

Of course any cop who doesnt follow the party line will be investigated as "white supremacist"

 

[Billy_Bob]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Texts between Joey Gibson, the leader of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, and Portland police Lt. Jeff Niiya have been criticized by officials in Oregon's largest city.

"Disturbing" texts between Oregon police and far-right group prompt investigation

The guy is innocent until proven guilty but what I really like here is that the city removed the investigation from the hands of the police force. We have to stop allowing the police to investigate themselves. Here we have another example of moving in the right direction.


Officials and activists also voiced concern about the texts and demanded that Mayor Ted Wheeler order an independent investigation — and not one headed by Portland Police Chief Danielle Outlaw as he first suggested. The mayor relented late Friday and said he will be working on how the new inquiry will take shape.


"I will order an independent investigation to review the existence of bias in the actions of the [Portland Police Bureau] leading up to and during demonstrations involving alt-right and anti-fascist protesters," he said in a statement, adding that he has "heard from the people of Portland" and will also work with Outlaw to implement training for police in identifying white supremacy.

Patriot Prayer denies being a White Supremacist group.

Are you one of those idiots that tries to equate White Power morons to anyone to the right of Mitt Romney?

Yep. They mayor is an antifa supporting thug.

Of course any cop who doesnt follow the party line will be investigated as "white supremacist"

This is a massive abuse of power by the mayor.. He is the one that needs to be investigated.

 

[iceberg]

Full text: Donald Trump says “racism is evil” in his latest statement on Charlottesville

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

It was about the color of their skin. Trump never told a white person to "go back from where they came".

again - opinion you have.

trump also made strange hand gestures when talking about people but it was never mocking a handicapped person until it became something to hold against him. trump haters seem to pick and choose which of his past behaviors matter. i can show you a dozen times his hand action existed before he was TOLD he was mocking the handicapped but the left ignores this because it would undermine their hate.

OF WHICH is why we're so divided. people change how they normally feel based on who is doing something. pretty stupid as well.

 

[iceberg]

And then he call people, nasty and filthy and tells them to go back from where they came.

Due to their politics, not their race.

I showed you what you asked for, no go slink back into whatever hole you popped out of.

Nope, "go back to where you came from" was all about race. Trump says what the racist wish they could say on the national stage.

That is speculation. It cannot be proven it was race related so people who hate trump say it is. People who like him say it's not.

How productive.

It was about the color of their skin. Trump never told a white person to "go back from where they came".

Most likely he probably has. Its just that you make mountains out of molehills for everything. And you take important issues and cheapen them because of it. You spend so much time infiltrating government to destroy people you forget there is a private side to things.

if you're looking to find fault in someone you hate. you will.

end of story.

 

[iceberg]

Ask the question in a more honest form. I never said they deny being the KKK.

Their whole position is "White people good, Dark people (and jews, and probably Catholics) bad."

They are up front and honest about it.

KKK Denies ‘White Supremacy’ Label Ahead Of Trump Rally

It says "some members"

The KKK itself has never disavowed white power/supremacy/separatism

Actually, if I am not correct, that is the whole controversy within the KKK. It is one of the reasons Senator Byrd was a member until very late, and the reason David Duke was a member until very late, and finally gave up, b/c they just could not change public perception.

Byrd wasn't a member till "very late". Condemning him for being a member is legit but arguments need to be factual.

um...ok.

byrd was born in 1917. he started a chapter in w virginia in the early 40's. he wasn't even 30 when he wrote:

In a 1944 letter to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo, Byrd wrote, “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

As late as 1946, Byrd wrote to the Klan’s Grand Wizard stating, “The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation.”

so i'm not sure how you're choosing to define "very late" here but from his 20's til he later disavowed the clan, he was knee deep in it.