Zone1 Pope Benedict sanctioned 800 molesting priests.. other things I just now learned about him

[notmyfault2020]

https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/enforcer-islam-ratzinger/2022/12/31/id/1102545/

I at first thought Benedict XVI was more or less one of the liberal clergy who had taken over at Vatican II and I do think that at one time he was fairly liberal. But this article shows he cared about preserving the true Catholic faith (unlike other popes we could mention of recent vintage)


from the site:


Benedict's critics were often as inaccurate as they were unfair. Laurie Goodstein of The New York Times wrote in 2013 that Benedict never removed predators from the priesthood.

She was wrong.

All total, from 2005 to 2013, he defrocked some eight hundred molesting priests.



Wow... he not only sanctioned the *&^%$#s but DEFROCKED them!!



Gee... wonder why I am just now learning about this? this should have been front page news. Instead (but not surprisingly) you have to actually dig DEEP to get the facts on anything RE the Catholic Church...

 

[pknopp]

I'm sure most molesters would simply be happy with being "defrocked" and sent on their way to molest elsewhere.

 

[DGS49]

Not sure casual readers will comprehend what you mean by "sanctioned." That is to say, IMPOSED SANCTIONS - usually removing them from the priesthood.

I regret that we are now in a very dark period for the Church. Our socialist pope has turned the college of cardinals into clones of himself, thus ensuring a future pope or two who asks, "Who am I to judge?"

What a disaster.

 

[DGS49]

The Church is NOT a law enforcement agency. Crimes are crimes, and the victims must go to the civil authorities if they want criminal charges brought.

 

[pknopp]

The Church is NOT a law enforcement agency. Crimes are crimes, and the victims must go to the civil authorities if they want criminal charges brought.

To do what the Pope did, he had to have evidence. If he had evidence, it should have been turned into the authorities.

 

[John09]

The Church is NOT a law enforcement agency. Crimes are crimes, and the victims must go to the civil authorities if they want criminal charges brought.

He allowed priests to continue, without any limits on their ministry for two, after they were found guilty by the legal system.

The law firm report identified four cases in which Ratzinger was accused of misconduct in failing to act against abusers: Two cases involved priests who offended while Ratzinger was archbishop and were punished by the German legal system but were kept in pastoral ministry without any limits on their ministry. A third case involved a cleric who was convicted by a court outside Germany but was put into service in Munich; while the fourth involved a convicted pedophile priest who was allowed to transfer to Munich in 1980, and was later put into ministry. In 1986, the priest received a suspended sentence for molesting a boy.

Retired Pope Benedict doesn't admit wrongdoing for the way he handled sex abuse cases

He asked forgiveness for any "grievous faults" in his handling of clergy sex abuse cases, but admitted to no personal or specific wrongdoing after an independent report criticized his actions.

www.npr.org

“In a total of four cases, we came to the conclusion that the then-archbishop, Cardinal Ratzinger, can be accused of misconduct,” said one of the reports’ authors, Martin Pusch.

Two of those cases, he said, involved perpetrators who offended while he was in office and were punished by the judicial system but were kept in pastoral work without express limits on what they were allowed to do. No action was ordered under canon law

In a third case, a cleric who had been convicted by a court outside Germany was put into service in the Munich archdiocese and the circumstances speak for Ratzinger having known of the priest’s previous history, Pusch said.

When the church abuse scandal first flared in Germany in 2010, attention swirled around another case: that of a pedophile priest whose transfer to Munich to undergo therapy was approved under Ratzinger in 1980.

The priest was allowed to resume pastoral work, a decision that the church has said was made by a lower-ranking official without consulting the archbishop. In 1986, the priest received a suspended sentence for molesting a boy.

Pope Benedict XVI implicated in report on sexual abuse in German diocese

A long-awaited report on sexual abuse in Germany's Munich diocese has faulted retired Pope Benedict XVI's handling of cases when he was archbishop in the 1970s and 1980s.

www.pbs.org

 

[notmyfault2020]

Not sure casual readers will comprehend what you mean by "sanctioned." That is to say, IMPOSED SANCTIONS - usually removing them from the priesthood.

I regret that we are now in a very dark period for the Church. Our socialist pope has turned the college of cardinals into clones of himself, thus ensuring a future pope or two who asks, "Who am I to judge?"

What a disaster.

yeh... notice how that comment kind of makes it about HIM ("Who am I to judge?")

Jesus is the Final Judge.. so of course the CHURCH is called to judge (whether something is a mortal sin or not, etc).. francis's statement proves if nothing else does that he is NOT a pope, not even Catholic..

The SSPX is the true Church and they need to elect their own pope and excommunicate the fake one.

 

[notmyfault2020]

The Church is NOT a law enforcement agency. Crimes are crimes, and the victims must go to the civil authorities if they want criminal charges brought.

A lot of them have and have encountered a very resistant (to improvement) clergy. Fortunately, that didn't stop some secular enforcement agencies

 

[notmyfault2020]

He allowed priests to continue, without any limits on their ministry for two, after they were found guilty by the legal system.

The law firm report identified four cases in which Ratzinger was accused of misconduct in failing to act against abusers: Two cases involved priests who offended while Ratzinger was archbishop and were punished by the German legal system but were kept in pastoral ministry without any limits on their ministry. A third case involved a cleric who was convicted by a court outside Germany but was put into service in Munich; while the fourth involved a convicted pedophile priest who was allowed to transfer to Munich in 1980, and was later put into ministry. In 1986, the priest received a suspended sentence for molesting a boy.

Retired Pope Benedict doesn't admit wrongdoing for the way he handled sex abuse cases

He asked forgiveness for any "grievous faults" in his handling of clergy sex abuse cases, but admitted to no personal or specific wrongdoing after an independent report criticized his actions.

www.npr.org

“In a total of four cases, we came to the conclusion that the then-archbishop, Cardinal Ratzinger, can be accused of misconduct,” said one of the reports’ authors, Martin Pusch.

Two of those cases, he said, involved perpetrators who offended while he was in office and were punished by the judicial system but were kept in pastoral work without express limits on what they were allowed to do. No action was ordered under canon law

In a third case, a cleric who had been convicted by a court outside Germany was put into service in the Munich archdiocese and the circumstances speak for Ratzinger having known of the priest’s previous history, Pusch said.

When the church abuse scandal first flared in Germany in 2010, attention swirled around another case: that of a pedophile priest whose transfer to Munich to undergo therapy was approved under Ratzinger in 1980.

The priest was allowed to resume pastoral work, a decision that the church has said was made by a lower-ranking official without consulting the archbishop. In 1986, the priest received a suspended sentence for molesting a boy.

Pope Benedict XVI implicated in report on sexual abuse in German diocese

A long-awaited report on sexual abuse in Germany's Munich diocese has faulted retired Pope Benedict XVI's handling of cases when he was archbishop in the 1970s and 1980s.

www.pbs.org

Oh

you listen to NPR

well, I don't, so .. C ya.

I'll believe another Catholic over some liberal BS spouter like NPR

sheez

 

[John09]

Oh

you listen to NPR

well, I don't, so .. C ya.

I'll believe another Catholic over some liberal BS spouter like NPR

sheez

Both cites rely on the report generated by the German Law firm tasked with the study.

Sadly, it's blind faith like yours, in the clergy, that led to continuation of the abuse of children and others for decades.

Oh well.

 

[notmyfault2020]

Both cites rely on the report generated by the German Law firm tasked with the study.

Sadly, it's blind faith like yours, in the clergy, that led to continuation of the abuse of children and others for decades.

Oh well.

There's some logic for ya:

If a person distrusts the liberally-biased (way) NPR

that means the person is blinded by faith

Well, if you ever get beyond that whopper

maybe we can discuss the matter further. Until then... C ya

 

[John09]

A German law firm published on Thursday a long-awaited report into sexual abuse of minors and vulnerable adults in the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising. The report, commissioned by the Munich archdiocese, covers the period between 1945 and 2019.

Law firm Westpfahl Spilker Wastl conducted the independent review of all alleged cases of sexual abuse by clerics or other employees of the archdiocese, spanning the leadership of the six postwar archbishops.

German report accuses Benedict XVI of abuse coverup. What does it say? - BishopAccountability.org

A Pillar explainer Pope emeritus Benedict XVI is in the headlines Thursday, as a new report alleges that he mishandled abuse cases while serving as the leader of a German archdiocese in the 1970s and 80s. To help make sense of what’s been alleged, The Pillar answers your questions: What...

www.bishop-accountability.org

 

[John09]

There's some logic for ya:

If a person distrusts the liberally-biased (way) NPR

that means the person is blinded by faith

Well, if you ever get beyond that whopper

You wrote

I'll believe another Catholic over some liberal BS spouter like NPR

The cite quotes the lawyer from the firm commissioned by the Munich archdiocese, but you choose to disbelieve the report because I provided an NPR cite.

maybe we can discuss the matter further. Until then... C ya

Carry on. Buh bye.

 

[notmyfault2020]

You wrote



The cite quotes the lawyer from the firm commissioned by the Munich archdiocese, but you choose to disbelieve the report because I provided an NPR cite.


Carry on. Buh bye.

I never said I disbelieved. I merely said that NPR is not trustworthy because of their blatant liberal bias.. Also, I don't know who that Munich archdiocese person is so.. again... it all comes down to trust. And some of us have so little of that.. having seen so much LYING in the world in general, including the fake novus ordo "church" run by the heretic francis

 

[surada]

https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/enforcer-islam-ratzinger/2022/12/31/id/1102545/

I at first thought Benedict XVI was more or less one of the liberal clergy who had taken over at Vatican II and I do think that at one time he was fairly liberal. But this article shows he cared about preserving the true Catholic faith (unlike other popes we could mention of recent vintage)


from the site:


Benedict's critics were often as inaccurate as they were unfair. Laurie Goodstein of The New York Times wrote in 2013 that Benedict never removed predators from the priesthood.

She was wrong.

All total, from 2005 to 2013, he defrocked some eight hundred molesting priests.



Wow... he not only sanctioned the *&^%$#s but DEFROCKED them!!



Gee... wonder why I am just now learning about this? this should have been front page news. Instead (but not surprisingly) you have to actually dig DEEP to get the facts on anything RE the Catholic Church...

https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article270888197.html

 

[ninja007]

yeh... notice how that comment kind of makes it about HIM ("Who am I to judge?")

Jesus is the Final Judge.. so of course the CHURCH is called to judge (whether something is a mortal sin or not, etc).. francis's statement proves if nothing else does that he is NOT a pope, not even Catholic..

The SSPX is the true Church and they need to elect their own pope and excommunicate the fake one.

A SIN IS A SIN. PERIOD. MORTAL SIN LOL. BIBLE VERSE PLEASE.

 

[notmyfault2020]

A SIN IS A SIN. PERIOD. MORTAL SIN LOL. BIBLE VERSE PLEASE.

so all God's Truth can be shoved into a relatively small book...

sheez

Bible verse, Please... Give me the Bible verse that says All God's truth can be Found in the Bible and Nowhere else AT ALL, EVER!

I'm sure you can find that in the Bible, right?

And don't give me that verse about Scripture being sufficient to equip one for service.. That does not mean that the Bible is all we need. If that were the case, you would never have to PRAY.

What comes to you in prayer is often not found in the Bible... So yeh.. you Bible -alone people...give up prayer NOW! Give up your mind while you're at it... assuming you haven't already

 

[Jarlaxle]

The Church is NOT a law enforcement agency. Crimes are crimes, and the victims must go to the civil authorities if they want criminal charges brought.

If he did not FORMALLY EXCOMMUNICATE the pedos (and he did not), he's complicit.

 

[basquebromance]

he was the 1st German for 500 years to sit on the chair of St. Peter. he was a theologian whose ecclesiastical and academic work was already important. Joseph Ratzinger wrote history. As the Vatican council "greenhorn", as a renewer of theology, as a prefect who side by side with Karol Wojtyla, kept the ship of the church on course through the storm of that time.

there has never been a "pope emeritus". never before had a single person changed the papacy from one day to the next as much as he has

 

[basquebromance]

Bernard Henri Levy remarked that whenever Benedict's name came up, "prejudice, falseness, and even plain disinformation" ruled any discussion.