Poller Coaster

But but didn’t democrats assure us that Hillary was already installed in the White House? After that did they not go on a rant everytime a poll was shown that polls were useless and should never be believed? Now suddenly they are not only to be believed but they appear to be able to suddenly predict the outcome of an election again.
Really wish Democrats would pick a side and stay on it. Suddenly Harris is against taxing tips since Trump brought it up. She and the rest of the Democrats were absolutely against a wall, it was a waste of money and time and would do nothing. Now suddenly she is promising to build a wall.
I guess it is just which every way the wind blows that Democrats go, like a leaf, here and there.
 
But but didn’t democrats assure us that Hillary was already installed in the White House? After that did they not go on a rant everytime a poll was shown that polls were useless and should never be believed? Now suddenly they are not only to be believed but they appear to be able to suddenly predict the outcome of an election again.
Really wish Democrats would pick a side and stay on it. Suddenly Harris is against taxing tips since Trump brought it up. She and the rest of the Democrats were absolutely against a wall, it was a waste of money and time and would do nothing. Now suddenly she is promising to build a wall.
I guess it is just which every way the wind blows that Democrats go, like a leaf, here and there.
The only poll that matters is the final tally of the votes.

My goal in this thread is to show the evolution of the tallies and see how accurate the polls are (until some mod closes the thread lol).

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New polling in WI, MI, PA, GA, and NV. (They average the polls).




Noteworthy...

Wisconsin and Michigan (according to Emerson), is outside the MOE.

Arizona is back (again they average multiple polls) in Trump’s column.

North Carolina--even after averaging--remains exactly even.
 
The only poll that matters is the final tally of the votes.

My goal in this thread is to show the evolution of the tallies and see how accurate the polls are (until some mod closes the thread lol).

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New polling in WI, MI, PA, GA, and NV. (They average the polls).




Noteworthy...

Wisconsin and Michigan (according to Emerson), is outside the MOE.

Arizona is back (again they average multiple polls) in Trump’s column.

North Carolina--even after averaging--remains exactly even.
But you are still touting polls which were said for years to be inaccurate and something only foolish republicans would believe and follow. So did you suddenly become Republican?
 
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Four polls (they take an average) puts Harris up in Georgia by one percent. That explains the “292” number. I’m not sure I buy it. If they didn’t show up for Abrams...its not immediately clear that they would show up for Harris....UNLESS...Trump is just that much more unpopular than Kemp...which may be the case.

The polling continues to be bad news for Harris here in Arizona where Trump has had it in his column over the last 3 days (the site constantly updates the polling from day to day). The good news for Harris is that WI and MI seem to be...maybe...permanent fixtures in her column. WI more so than MI.
 
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Average of polls in the swing states from here on out pretty much. Five polls averaged in NC put Trump up by one. Boo. Harris continues to hold firm in WI, MI, and PA. I can’t see Georgia going for her but its showing in two consecutive samplings she is winning.

The site is showing bad news for the Dems in the Senate. WV and MT look to flip red. Hogan and his opponent are tied in Maryland so the GOP can flip 3 seats it looks like.
 
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As stated earlier, the polling is fast and furious in the swing states.... So as a result, the website averages the polls in those states.

GA is now in the undecided column--it went from being leaning read to barely blue to now undecided. For the entire life of the thread, the "blue wall" is holding in MI, WI, and PA.
 
For September 10:
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The “big” news on today’s installment is that GA has flipped back red. On the last update it was statistically tied. The other “big news” is that an average of four polls puts Harris up by 2 percent in North Carolina and it’s 16 electoral votes.

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She and Walz have been spending a lot of time there and it’s starting to pay off.

Pennsylvania, Mi and WI are the “blue wall” states. WI/MI have been in the Harris Column for some time now according to this website. PA has Harris up by 2% in a YouGov Poll.

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The breakdown isn’t great for Harris though. 80% of the black vote. If memory serves, Obama was into the high 90’s. Women are showing up for her as are the youth; something that Biden may not have been able to say.
 
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A whole batch of polls from 538:

Pretty much in line with the averages above....

Some of the polls were before the debate so it should favor VP Harris going forward to some extent.
 
Latest from Electoral-Vote.com

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For the first time in quite a while, the "blue wall" has been pierced according to one poll in Michigan.

An InsiderAdvantage survey of 800 registered likely voters shows Donald Trump with a one point lead over Kamala Harris in Michigan. The survey was conducted September 11th through midday September 12th. The data collection was by cell/text and is weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation. The poll has a margin of error of 3.7%


Results:

Trump: 49%
Harris: 48%
Other: 1%
Undecided: 2%


The same organization has her up by 2 in Wisconsin.

Harris still holds an Electoral vote majority due to a strong showing in North Carolina. The gubernatorial candidate for the GOP down there is a complete disaster. I mean...he is Herschel Walker bad. Its going to be a good turnout for Harris because of it.

 
More Polls Today in Pennsylvania:
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Widely respected Suffolk U conducted a poll that has Harris up by 3 in PA.


There is no mention of the debate performance however the favorable/unfavorable is telling and one can see where the poll probably had an effect. Harris 49/47, Blob 43/54. JD Vance is 40/52. The poll identifies two “bellwether” counties--Erie and North Hampton. In those two counties. Harris actually is up by 5 and 6 percent.

Lastly on the Suffolk poll, Harris is doing very well with women and the youth. Swift effect? Perhaps.

Additioanlly, from Electoral-Vote, check out Iowa. Four points. That is from a Selzer Poll.


What makes it interesting is that this isn’t some phone bank in Chicago making the calls...Selzer is based in Des Moines.


I doubt Harris wins Iowa but the polling is interesting. Is the heartland waking up finally?
 
Latest from Electoral-Vote.com

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For the first time in quite a while, the "blue wall" has been pierced according to one poll in Michigan.

An InsiderAdvantage survey of 800 registered likely voters shows Donald Trump with a one point lead over Kamala Harris in Michigan. The survey was conducted September 11th through midday September 12th. The data collection was by cell/text and is weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation. The poll has a margin of error of 3.7%


Results:

Trump: 49%
Harris: 48%
Other: 1%
Undecided: 2%


The same organization has her up by 2 in Wisconsin.

Harris still holds an Electoral vote majority due to a strong showing in North Carolina. The gubernatorial candidate for the GOP down there is a complete disaster. I mean...he is Herschel Walker bad. Its going to be a good turnout for Harris because of it.



The Trump brood has officially tossed him overboard. I hope the citizens of NC keep the pressure up and deliver the state for VP Harris.
 
Today’s edition:

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Florida is showing up 3% for Trump.

Morning Consult is putting out the poll with a 50/47 split for Trump. The same day they released a poll showing Allred (weird name for a democrat) leading Cruz by a point. So I take this worth a grain of salt. Cruz will win by 6% or so. But back to Florida...


The women’s vote in Florida (probably some fall out from Dobbs is hurting Trump. He may have to campaign in his home state which, of course, would be humiliating.

The link below


Also shows PA with an average of 9 polls, Michigan averaging 5 polls and Wisconsin averaging 4 polls. All of the averages give Harris the edge.

Arizona and NC are dead heats according to the polling.
 
Lots of Polling and my own worthless opinions here.

The Harris momentum continues--where it needs to continue. Its a sign that the campaign is running efficiently. Essentially there are two tracks for Harris to win the election. This isn’t to be confused with the oft repeated “paths” to victory that you’ll hear on election night and the nights there after since Pennsylvania won’t be called for about 5 days after election night.

Here is the map featuring the famous “blue wall”. \
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If any two of three states of WI, MI, or PA flip red, game over, the blob wins and another 4 year American dark ages takes root where Alabama becomes an east cost town, the government position is the you can rake 100,000,000 million acres of national forest, and we have a President who couldn’t manage a 7/11.

Fortunately (for the time being anyway), that doesn’t look likely. This weeks polling has Harris in the 50’s in the 3 states. Michigan has her at 49 but it was 50 earlier this week.

Wisconsin:
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Michigan:
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Pennsylvania:
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Vance is doing nothing to help Trump in the midwest. In fact, he’s probably hurting him in Wisconsin where the “anger index” doesn’t jibe well with his dr death personality. You have to think that whomever Trump’s first choices were all turned him down if he landed on this dope.


Anyway, So the broad assumption of both me and most of the pundits is that if any of them flip, it will likely be Pennsylvania. Maybe Michigan. Again, if both flip, that’s the ball game. But if either one flips, it’s likely to be Pennsylvania.

So without the 19 electoral votes in PA, Harris would have to either hold on to states Biden won (which may still happen) or flip a new Red State.

Hello North Carolina!!!!

Of the two blue states that Biden christened into the D column in 2020, Arizona is likely the only one who may remain blue. Why? Kari Lake and her diarrhea of the mouth syndrome. Look for Lake to make some sort of massively misguided gesture the closer we get to Election Day. It may remind voters what a devious bitch she is and surge the vote for Harris. The same will likely hold true in NC with the moronic Lt. Governor Robinson out there. If I’m the democrats, I’m putting every microphone we have in front of these two and hoping they give either the red voters an excuse to do yard work on 11/5 and not vote OR give blue voters more reason to caucus and vote for Harris. Either way works for me. As in 2022, we saw what happened to right wing extremists and hopefully that will happen again in’24.

If I’m Harris, I’m giving up on GA. As I’ve said since she got in the race; if they didn’t show up for Abrams, they’re not going to show up for Harris. I’d also focus on both Nevada and Arizona as well as Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Leave everything else up to the surrogates.

Of the two out west, NV seems to be an easier hold. Biden won by 2% out there in 2020 and Harris currently leads in a lot of polling. It neighbors Arizona so you can do 2 stops in one day out there; the only metro area that matters if Vegas so you don’t have to do the Pennsylvania thing where you are in Erie and Harrisburg.

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You get to 270, you get 100% of the presidency. Harris will hopefully have some help from the GOP in NC and Arizona. GA was a nice win for Biden last time out but it’s not going to go your way Madam Vice President.
 
Great week of polling for Harris according to 538. If you’re not watching closely, you may have deduced this from the sudden silence on the topic by the guys on the right. LOL...

The margins are incredibly small but you’d rather be up than down, right. It’s still way too close to call in most states. Wisconsin looks good for Harris and that is reflected in the blob’s travels.

First the Blue Wall:
PA:
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0.5% cushion.

MI:
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1.5% cushion

WI
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1.6%....

I would invite you to not only look at the Margins as of October 4 but the tracking of the lines. Trump needs a game changer.

Then there is Nevada.... What is interesting about Nevada is that if Harris sweeps the three above, Nevada is a “nice to have” For Trump it is a must for all intent and purposes. She’s over-performing there as well.

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If you look at the grid lines, she gets some separation from the blob when the polling is reflecting 9/10...when he went on his tirade against imaginary pet eating. Notice his dip on that last grid line.

Nationwide, it’s not even close.

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Poll after poll reflecting the same data.

Its not all good news for Harris however.

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The blob is having to spend resources and most importantly time in a state that should be in his back pocket.

Its still too close to call but the trends are favoring the VP.
 
I think this one by 538 is an outlier. While it’s not impossible fo rthem to be tied in GA, it definitely bucks the trend in GA

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New Michigan Poll has Harris up by 3:

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However there are 9% that are undecided or not committed.
 
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