montelatici
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montelatici, et al,
You are such a chaotic element.
(COMMENT)A colonized people are not part of "another state". The colonized, native people are the people that have been dispossessed of their territory (home) by people that invaded from another territory, in this case, from another continent. A Bantustan (which is in what the Palestinians live in) is not another sovereign country that is able to negotiate anything on an international basis.
We are not talking about Bantustan.
No matter how you frame it, the State of Palestine (1988) asked to join the UN.
There is a principle that "Palestine" shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of "Israel" or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.
• On 14 October 1974, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was recognised by the UN General Assembly as the representative of the Palestinian people and granted the right to participate in the deliberations of the General Assembly on the question of Palestine in plenary meetings.
• On 22 November 1974, the PLO was granted non-state observer status, allowing the PLO to participate in all Assembly sessions, as well as in other UN platforms.
• On 15 December 1988, UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 "acknowledged" the Palestinian Declaration of Independence of November 1988 and replaced the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" by the designation "Palestine" in the United Nations system.
• On 23 September 2011, President Mahmoud Abbas on behalf of the PLO submitted an application for membership of Palestine in the United Nations. On 29 November 2012, the General Assembly granted Palestine non-member observer state status in United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19.
• On 17 December 2012, UN Chief of Protocol Yeocheol Yoon decided that "the designation of 'State of Palestine' shall be used by the Secretariat in all official United Nations documents".
(COMMENT)"1. The subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation constitutes a denial of fundamental human rights, is contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and is an impediment to the promotion of world peace and co-operation.
The Arab Palestinian are not subjugated. The Arab-Palestinians are contained because the pose a security threat to the entire region.
(COMMENT)2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
The "right" of anything, cannot interfere with the "rights" of others. The 'rights" of the Arab-Palestinian cannot interfere with the "rights" of Israel.
In the case of the territory to which the Mandate once applied, the UN adopted a Plan. The Plan established the "Steps Preparatory to Independence." Israel accepted and the Arab-Palestinians rejected the Plan. The Palestinian may not use force to alter the rights of Israel.
(COMMENT)3. Inadequacy of political, economic, social or educational preparedness should never serve as a pretext for delaying independence.
First, Article 2(4) of the Charter applies.
Second, Independence was offered to the Palestinians; they declined.
(COMMENT)4. All armed action or repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples shall cease in order to enable them to exercise peacefully and freely their right to complete independence, and the integrity of their national territory shall be respected.
"All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations." [Article 2)4)] Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective selfdefense if an armed attack occurs against a Mem- 10 her of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to maintain international peace and security." (Article 51)
(COMMENT)5. Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.
Palestine nor any of the remaining territory is "non-Self Governing."
I don't know how many times I've mentioned this. Israel was not a colonial power, or an agent of a colonial power, to establish a settlement for the advancement of a colonial power.
Israel was carved-out of the territory surrendered to the Allied Powers, wherein the Ottoman Empire / Republic of Turkey "renounced all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories." This included portions of the Vilayets of Beirut and Syria, as well as the Mutasarrifiyet of Jerusalem.
There was no political subdivision called Palestine and there was no territory surrendered or transferred to the inhabitants of the territory with that regional name.
(COMMENT)6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Yes, quite true. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption the Israeli national unity and the territorial integrity of Israel by the Palestinians is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations. (Article 2 of the UN Charter).
(COMMENT)7. All States shall observe faithfully and strictly the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the present Declaration on the basis of equality, non-interference in the internal affairs of all States, and respect for the sovereign rights of all peoples and their territorial integrity."
Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples
Not only does the UN not recognize Palestine (or any territorial name variation) as a Non-Self Governing Territory (NSGT) BUT --- Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples --- Adopted by General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960, has not passed into law, and there is no move, at this time to attempt to bring it into law.
Yes, the HoAP should strictly observe and respect Israeli sovereign territory.
Most Respectfully,
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Cognitive dissonance at its best. I realize that you support colonization of lands inhabited by people you consider inferior, that is the racist in you. Fortunately, most of the world's people no longer think like you do, i.e. they are not racist. Colonialism has been determined to be an evil of the past for almost a century.
Palestine is non-self governing and is not a sovereign state. The UN covers Palestine under other resolutions which determine its status as an occupied territory, therefore de-facto, non-self-governing.
Israel is, of course, a settler colony sponsored by Britain, as even the Zionists themselves admitted, in writing, on many occasions.
"The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered....The proposals submitted by the Zionist Executive were favorably considered by the British government, emphasis was laid on the allocation of land for Jewish colonization in Beisan and in Southern Palestine."
Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ
