Poll to condemn or condone "the violence and law breaking that took place inside the Capital on 1/6"
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Pellinore
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I'm something like eight pages behind, but this is incorrect. The states tabulate their votes at their own capitals, and then the physical results are sent to DC for the certification. The boxes look like that, here modeled by four staffers who carried them out as the invaders climbed in through the windows.Had those insurrectionists gotten hold of the electoral ballots it would have thrown the election to the House based on the number of states and not members , meaning Republicans win. And that was the planI don’t support the actions of any rowdy mob that damages buildings or loots and burns. Therefore I don’t support the actions of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th.
However this was no “insurrection.” The rioters did not have firearms and it appears the FBI may have been involved in setting up the riot.
BREAKING: FBI official testifies that no guns were recovered from those arrested at the Jan. 6 Capitol siege
FBI assistant director for counterterrorism Jill Sanborn confirmed in a Senate hearing that no guns were recovered during the Capitol protests on Jan 6www.lawenforcementtoday.com
FBI helped plan and execute the 1-6 riot, committing the most egregious acts? Video
THIS IS RIGHT OUT OF STALIN’S PLAY BOOK Attorney General Merrick Garland said on Monday that white supremacists are the single biggest threat our country faces. He did not define what a white supremacist is or who they are. That’s because the depraved AG is lying. And then there is Christopher...www.independentsentinel.com
You don't have to have guns to have an insurrection.. Many of them did have weapons.. and per Trump's instructions they were there to fight for their country, take back America and overturn the election.
But to implement an insurrection, you have to not just delay the election certification by a day, but prevent it permanently.
Since I did not see any sleeping bags, tents, etc., I saw nothing to indicate this was a permanent attempt, but just headlines grandstanding for a single day. And I see no harm in that. In fact, I kind of like that, even though I totally disagree with their beliefs, values, etc.
In fact, I wish all different opinions and views got similar face time on a regular basis.
None of that made any sense to me.
There are never any electoral ballots at the capital, because states run elections, not the federal government.
And no, nothing would throw the election to the House.
There is no way that could happen.
You don't condone them, you did condemn them. But no, you won't condemn the leftist rioters.
You did in the past is what we both know is a game. Bull shit, you never did, which is why you won't now. You're fooling no one, fascist
jc456
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still awkward for you I see, still can't name that black life black lives matter saved. skate along now sweetie.
yidnar
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the mass trespassing and brief violence was not helpful ....there ! you satisfied !
jc456
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why would they allow them to go in if that was truly their intent? stop the boxes from the cars that brought them. Seems more like a plan than waiting for them to be delivered. That's stupid. Just proves it wasn't anyone's intent ever. Just garbage knowledge from demofks.I'm something like eight pages behind, but this is incorrect. The states tabulate their votes at their own capitals, and then the physical results are sent to DC for the certification. The boxes look like that, here modeled by four staffers who carried them out as the invaders climbed in through the windows.Had those insurrectionists gotten hold of the electoral ballots it would have thrown the election to the House based on the number of states and not members , meaning Republicans win. And that was the planI don’t support the actions of any rowdy mob that damages buildings or loots and burns. Therefore I don’t support the actions of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th.
However this was no “insurrection.” The rioters did not have firearms and it appears the FBI may have been involved in setting up the riot.
BREAKING: FBI official testifies that no guns were recovered from those arrested at the Jan. 6 Capitol siege
FBI assistant director for counterterrorism Jill Sanborn confirmed in a Senate hearing that no guns were recovered during the Capitol protests on Jan 6www.lawenforcementtoday.com
FBI helped plan and execute the 1-6 riot, committing the most egregious acts? Video
THIS IS RIGHT OUT OF STALIN’S PLAY BOOK Attorney General Merrick Garland said on Monday that white supremacists are the single biggest threat our country faces. He did not define what a white supremacist is or who they are. That’s because the depraved AG is lying. And then there is Christopher...
You don't have to have guns to have an insurrection.. Many of them did have weapons.. and per Trump's instructions they were there to fight for their country, take back America and overturn the election.
But to implement an insurrection, you have to not just delay the election certification by a day, but prevent it permanently.
Since I did not see any sleeping bags, tents, etc., I saw nothing to indicate this was a permanent attempt, but just headlines grandstanding for a single day. And I see no harm in that. In fact, I kind of like that, even though I totally disagree with their beliefs, values, etc.
In fact, I wish all different opinions and views got similar face time on a regular basis.
None of that made any sense to me.
There are never any electoral ballots at the capital, because states run elections, not the federal government.
And no, nothing would throw the election to the House.
There is no way that could happen.
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jc456
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post the link. Why is that always so difficult for you?
Faun
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LOLYou don't know how many FBI informants, including "deal cutter rats" not just undercover FBI agents, there were. Given other surveillance capabilities of the government, I can't imagine that the FBI didn't know that the bullhorn guys would herd the crowd over to the capital building. Even if there were zero "informants" the security folks knew that up to 1m Trump supporters would be attending his rally. So why wasn't the Capital Building, that was in-session, protected better? just sayin'"So if the FBI "informants"..."So if the FBI "informants" were some of the most radical "conspirators" trying to entrap the goobers, that makes "white supremacists" the biggest threat facing the US? Hardly.LOLMade what up? How stupid are you? Read the fucking articles, and google it.Which means you made it up.The "evidence" is tough to come by being that the FBI doesn't like to admit they spy on Americans, and the MSM covers up for them.Great, let's see your evidence that there were members of the FBI and Antifa there....1. Ok, but it was Trump supporters. There may have been a few others, such as FBI or antifa, but of the ~400 rioters obviously most were Trump supporters who were upset about the alleged voter fraud.Meanwhile back in reality, I gave you 2 links to folks who still insist it was not Trump supporters.You must be the only idiot in the country who doesn't know as "fact" that the people who rioted at the capital building were Trump supporters, duh.
Lying Republican's try to rewrite history
Shortly after Liz Cheney was ousted from her leadership post for speaking the truth about Donald Trump and his roll in the January 6th attack on the US capital, Republican lawmakers, in a pathetic attempt to curry favor with Trump began trying to rewrite history. Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., said...www.usmessageboard.com
Yeah shit brains; you didn't post the question I posited. Condemning the violence and explicitly listing the offenders as Trump supporters will get you nowhere with your fellow blobbers. You guys are not living in reality.
As for your illiteracy...you don't see the word "republican" in mine but not yours?
Proving my point about your illiteracy. Your last line:
"As for your illiteracy...you don't see the word "republican" in mine but not yours?" (look again, yes it is in yours, its assumed in mine)
I win. Give your mom her puter back.
Oh, I'm 100% sure it was Trump supporters who rioted at the Capitol, did the Tiki Torch white power march in Charlottesville, shot up multiple places across the nation...ran over people in their car, routinely beat the crap out of people at their rallies.
Trump supporters crave violence...always have, always will.
PS: My mother died. Watch your step, boy.
2. The tiki torch march was about confederate statues not voter fraud. Lets stick to debating one topic at a time. I'm not sure what got shot up except gang violence in urban plantations, like Chicago?! If antifa doesn't want to get beat up, don't have counter rallies, free speech, diversity, tolerance, and all.
3. Trump violence?!
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4. Sorry about your mother, you sounded younger than that. My only point being that proof-reading posts is a good thing.
Media hushes up report suggesting FBI involvement in Capitol riot, as White House turns anti-terrorism efforts on American people
Court filings suggest that FBI operatives were among the mob who stormed the US Capitol in January, and may have set up the riot. With the riot used as justification for new terrorism policy, the media is downplaying the story.www.rt.com
You freaks live in a fantasy world where you accept your hallucinations as real. Do you even know you’re psychotic?
You're just a partisan hack that can't face reality.
Were feds involved in facilitating the 1/6 siege? Number of unindicted co-conspirators raise questions.
The significant number of unindicted co-conspirators involved in the January 6 Capitol siege is strangely similar to those in Michigan plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer, where it was discovered embedded FBI undercover/informants were intimately involved in facilitating the plot.www.lawenforcementtoday.com
Why on Earth should I Google your bullshit just because you can't prove it? I already showed revolver.news is a fake news site. Your literally sourcing a known Russian propaganda site (RT) sourcing rightarded news (Fox) sourcing a fake news website (revolver.news) and then getting pissy with me for laughing at your ignorance.
Dumbfuck, Carlson is a moron. Want proof? He claims the FBI was involved because there are "unindicted co-conspirators" listed on the complaint against some Oath Keepers. Carlsson is such an imbecile, it doesn't even occur to him that those are otherwise known as -- informants. Those would be other Oath Keepers striking deals with the FBI to sing like a bird in exchange for reduced or eliminated charges.
You Qultists are out of your fucking minds. There is no tin foil hat conspiracy crazy enough to make you think, 'wait a second?'
Keep covering up for the deep state moron. The FBI got away with illegally spying on Trump, falsifying evidence, and setting up General Flynn, so setting up a few hicks is no challenge. Yet they fail to investigate Hunter's laptop full of evidence as well as in in-person whistleblower. The Federal government is just a partisan extension of the DNC.
So I'm not giving the FBI a pass yet. If the "informants" were part of the planning, why wasn't the capital building fortified and reinforced? Maybe someone wanted an incident for political gain. We'll see what comes out of the woodwork over time.
As an example, Dr. Fauci's paying the Wuhan Lab for covid "gain of function" research bit him on the ass.
That's as far as I got to see you're lying again.
In reality, you possess zero evidence the informants are FBI.
And again, you posted links to a number of websites carrying this nonsense as though multiple sites carrying the story lends it credibility -- but you ignored the fact that EVERY site you linked referenced the same fake news website, revolover.news, which is an unabashedly fake website; which refuses to disclose who's behind it.
You're fucking crazy, con.
Ummm, neither do you yet you're the one claiming the FBI may have been involved but you have no proof to back that up.
I'm the one pointing out you have no proof.
Rigby5
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Nothing changed on choke holds.
They were always legal if used in defense from a deadly attack.
They were never legal if used to subdue or force compliance.
Same as tasers.
Tasers can and do sometimes kill, just as chokes can and sometimes do.
So you can use a taser in defense from a deadly attack.
But you can not use a taser to subdue or force compliance.
Have there been election fraud?
Yes.
I think the 2000 election was very close and probably swung by inappropriate vote ballot design, illegal rejection of voters, illegal rejection of hanging chads, etc.
Other elections were inappropriate results because parties prevented the most popular candidates from getting to the ballot.
For example, both Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard are far more popular with the general voter population than they were with the slanted and unfair party system.
Do we need to occupy Congress in order to get elections fixed?
Absolutely.
We should never have allowed political parties to have any role at all in elections.
We should have a single federally run election that puts all candidates on the ballot and you rank them.
Congress knows this has always been done wrong, and is complicit with the corruption.
Congress is not an august organization of respectable people, but the worst liars and thieves I have ever seen.
We need to occupy congress on a regular basis until they make tax laws fair, make public health care, stop illegal wars and foreign troop deployments, end the illegal war on drugs, end illegal 3 strikes laws, end illegal asset forfeiture laws, etc.
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Funding for research did come from the N.I.H. but that funding wasn't for gain-of-function research. Nor had it been proven that was the origin of the virus. Senator Paul lied and Fauci called him on it.
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The "she had it coming" line of "reasoning".
A morally vacuous line of defense that I thought was dead in 1988 when Jodie Foster made The Accused.
Two Capitol cops are standing back in the shadows looking at Ashli Babbitt.
"Whoa....looky there at that broad standing there all unarmed and peaceable. She's just askin' for it!"
"You know it! She wants me to shoot her so bad she can taste it".
"Yeah. They all say they don't want to get murdered. But she's practically beggin' for it!"
"Hell yeah! And she wants to go kill a member of Congress too. You can tell by the way she's
just standing there all unarmed and everything."
One of the cops draws his pistol and fires and then turns to the other.
"I had no choice, right? You saw it. You saw that bitch standing there just wantin' to get plugged".
"100 % percent, bro. 100%. All those bitches want it".
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You forgot about the personal violence, vandalism, theft and overall damage to our democratic values that permeate not just through our country that creates instability but what this does to our reputation around the globe for being the good guys when now Putin leaps onto this to try and demonstrate that somehow they are a beacon of freedom.
yidnar
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i know ! the blm and antifa riots have damaged gov buildings ,injured over 2000 cops and they even managed to overthrow local state and fed government and established the marxist nation of Chop in Seattle !
Faun
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Dumbfuck, they only allowed them to enter to save the lives of the police, who were overwhelmed by shear numbers, after trying to keep them out...why would they allow them to go in if that was truly their intent? stop the boxes from the cars that brought them. Seems more like a plan than waiting for them to be delivered. That's stupid. Just proves it wasn't anyone's intent ever. Just garbage knowledge from demofks.I'm something like eight pages behind, but this is incorrect. The states tabulate their votes at their own capitals, and then the physical results are sent to DC for the certification. The boxes look like that, here modeled by four staffers who carried them out as the invaders climbed in through the windows.Had those insurrectionists gotten hold of the electoral ballots it would have thrown the election to the House based on the number of states and not members , meaning Republicans win. And that was the planI don’t support the actions of any rowdy mob that damages buildings or loots and burns. Therefore I don’t support the actions of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th.
However this was no “insurrection.” The rioters did not have firearms and it appears the FBI may have been involved in setting up the riot.
BREAKING: FBI official testifies that no guns were recovered from those arrested at the Jan. 6 Capitol siege
FBI assistant director for counterterrorism Jill Sanborn confirmed in a Senate hearing that no guns were recovered during the Capitol protests on Jan 6www.lawenforcementtoday.com
FBI helped plan and execute the 1-6 riot, committing the most egregious acts? Video
THIS IS RIGHT OUT OF STALIN’S PLAY BOOK Attorney General Merrick Garland said on Monday that white supremacists are the single biggest threat our country faces. He did not define what a white supremacist is or who they are. That’s because the depraved AG is lying. And then there is Christopher...
You don't have to have guns to have an insurrection.. Many of them did have weapons.. and per Trump's instructions they were there to fight for their country, take back America and overturn the election.
But to implement an insurrection, you have to not just delay the election certification by a day, but prevent it permanently.
Since I did not see any sleeping bags, tents, etc., I saw nothing to indicate this was a permanent attempt, but just headlines grandstanding for a single day. And I see no harm in that. In fact, I kind of like that, even though I totally disagree with their beliefs, values, etc.
In fact, I wish all different opinions and views got similar face time on a regular basis.
None of that made any sense to me.
There are never any electoral ballots at the capital, because states run elections, not the federal government.
And no, nothing would throw the election to the House.
There is no way that could happen.
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Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you??
LeftofLeft
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Fair enough. I will modify to “you people burn cities”.
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