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You have the same wealth of information at your fingertips that I do.
Use it to disprove me, if you dare.
Poll -- Most MAGA Voters Support The Democrats' Key Government Shutdown Demand Regarding Obamacare Health Care Subsidies
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Use it to disprove me, if you dare.
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Wow, you just have no clue. Illegals that go to emergency rooms and don't pay their tab, the hospitals are reimbursed by Medicaid. So yeah, they get it, even if it's indirectly.
CBO: Medicaid Spending on Illegal Aliens Has Cost Taxpayers over $16.2 Billion Under Open Border Czar Harris | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee
The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee
budget.house.gov
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Dr. Phosphorous
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Weak...
You should set the standard for all the MAGA trolls to learn from by posting your source.
And we are talking about Obamacare only....not every MAGA health care/illegal alien gripe under the sun that you can think of.
Here's why you are wrong:
When a migrant crosses the border, what do they always do immediately when they are confronted by border patrol, or when they turn themselves in to border patrol, or other enforcement agency? They claim they need 'asylum'.
When they do so, they are given a court date (which could be years away) and their status is NOT considered as being an 'illegal'.
During this period, they are able to receive Medicaid coverage for their healthcare.
Once the 'Big Beautiful Bill' was passed in July, there is a provision in the bill that eliminates this requirement.
Democrats demand we go back to the way it was.
So here's the thing. "Technically" you can say that Republicans are lying when they say Dimocrats want to go back to giving healthcare to illegals, but the REAL truth here is, the vast majority of people claiming they need 'asylum' are doing so under false pretense, and they know it! They always demand they need asylum, because they know it A-U-T-O-M-A-T-I-C-A-L-Y buys them time, much of the time years.
So in affect, these people are 'illegals', since their legal status will likely be taken away once they get to court, and in the interim they should not have qualified for the Medicaid benefits.
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No they don’t. Your fantasy world where they do and also think men can be women doesn’t exist. You’re fucked.
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Wake up. There are no "commiecrats". I would not at all surprised if the polling is correct, and normal republicans and a great number of MAGA trump supporters, in fact support, the continuance of the Affordable Care Act insurance plans. The MAGA farmers are getting ready to go on the government tit again, due to the Trump Tariff wars, and many of them used insurance through the affordable care act, just like the people working two part time jobs to make ends meet, while raising a kid.
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It isn't within my nature to coddle people.
How is it you demand proof but counter with no rebuttal of your own? Were it untrue you could easily prove it untrue. But you don't.
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So I should believe you instead of the poll?
Any news that you don't like is simply ignored....it must be fantastic living in your childish MAGA bubble.
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The ACA isn't going away, just the enhanced subsidies that were passed in a response to covid.
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Missouri_Mike
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It’s just more left wing stupid. Trying to tell what we voted for isn’t what we really wanted. Yes it is.
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But anyway, that figure is actually 1.4 million, and that came directly from the CBO.
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Fascinating.
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I live in realty. Nobody I know gives a flying **** about this shutdown and if your threat is you won’t end it until we spend another 1.5 trillion on illegals and shit we don’t give a **** if it ever comes back.
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Even if this is true, it has nothing to do with Obamacare subsidies and this poll.
Glad you got this irrelevant nonsense off your chest.
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The gaslighting doesn't work anymore. ROTFFLMMFAO!This is devastating news for Trump and the Republican Party.
Most MAGA voters actually agree with the Democrats when it comes to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). MAGA voters want the Obamacare subsidies to continue past December 31st of this year.
This is a no-win situation for Trump and the Republican Party. --
Republicans are losing ground with their own base as the government shutdown drags into a third day, with new polling showing voters siding with Democrats on preserving enhanced Obamacare subsidies.
Seventy-eight percent of U.S. adults want Congress to extend the tax credits that lower monthly premiums for millions buying insurance through the Affordable Care Act Marketplace, a new Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) poll finds. Support cuts across party lines: 92 percent of Democrats, 82 percent of independents, and 59 percent of Republicans back the credits. Even among MAGA-aligned Republicans, a majority—57 percent—say they should remain.
The ACA tax credits, originally expanded under the 2021 American Rescue Plan, are a lifeline for roughly 24 million Americans. Without them, premiums are expected to double for many, and millions could lose coverage according to according to an analysis by KFF. The subsidies are set to expire at the end of the year.
Democrats have demanded that the subsidies, first put in place in 2021 and extended a year later, be extended again. They also want any government funding bill to reverse the Medicaid cuts in President Donald Trump's mega-bill passed this summer, which don't go into effect immediately but are already driving some states to cut Medicaid payments to health providers.
The public isn’t just siding with Democrats on policy; they’re also ready to assign blame if the subsidies disappear. Among Americans who support extending the credits, 39 percent say Trump would be most responsible, while 37 percent point to Republicans in Congress. Only 22 percent would blame Democrats.
Most MAGA Voters Back Democrats’ Key Government Shutdown Demand—Poll
Republicans are losing ground with their own base as the government shutdown drags into a third day, according to a new Kaiser Family Foundation Poll.www.newsweek.com
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Your lame MAGA gomer anecdotal evidence is not "reality". You only talk to other MAGA knuckle-draggers in your reality.
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Yeah, the people paying the taxes you want to support illegals healthcare and your Obiecare subsidies. **** off.
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It is clear by the republican vote or 52-1 in the senate that your numbers, like everything else you post, is BS.
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