Poll: 85% of Israelis Support Banning Zoabi from Knesset

[Phoenall]

Ah, well the ability to remove someone who represents people who are NOT you is the other side of the coin there Lipush.

You can try to paint this as "Democracy In Action" as much as you like, but while you operate a dictatorship of Approved Peoples only, your credentials, err - lack a little something.

Try again as any politician in any civilised nation that is seen as a traitor can and will be removed from office. This muslima is a traitor to the country giving her a good living and deserves to be banned from sitting in the Knesset for her outbursts.Would it be any different to the calls by team Palestine to evict all the Jews in Washington because they are Jews ?

 

[Phoenall]

You can dress it up how you like Lipush. We know what you are about.

You want to eliminate any parliamentary resistance to Zionism and parliamentary support for Israeli Palestinians.
Even as you twist your rationale, all you do is make it more clear that you do not want any pluralism in your society.
Well, nothing that isn't at least Zionism.

Don't try to pretend that democratic values are important to you.

Any different to team Palestine wanting to remove all Jews from any position of power in any nation just because they don't like the thought of Jews being better than them. In this case the muslima is an outspoken ISLAMONAZI terrorist supporter and advances the need for unbridled attacks on Israel and the Jews, making her a criminal that should be arrested and tried for treason

 

[Phoenall]

You know, the more the Israelis do what they actually want to do the more everyone else realises they are not just pretending to be Nazis, but are the real thing.

The people don't want a certain minister in the Knesset, and act to bring her down. Not only this isn't Nazi, but it's the most democratic thing there is. The ability to choose who represents you.

I thought she was elected.

So are American presidents, but the people can unelect them cant they. . There is always a means of ridding a government of a rotten apple, and most are legal. At least they have not resorted to the Islamic solution of blowing her up............

 

[Phoenall]

I try to challenge you into a healthy discussion, I want to know if you're in.

You talk about democracy, so I ask again, how is it democratic to go against the will of 85% of the nation, and how is it democratic to keep in position a memeber of the parlament who goes AGAINST the parlament.

You're so enlightened, wise, and virtuous, so please, O wise one, elighten me.

We have a Socialist/Communist Senator from Vermont...Only Elections can remove the will of the Electorate in America...Lip, Israel is a de-facto Zionist Dictatorship...

NOPE due process of laws can do the same thing, all it needs is one little breakthrough and he would be history. Arrest, interview, charge, remand, trial, sentence and then invoke the law and he would be history

 

[Phoenall]

over 85% of Israelis polled

Of Israelis polled - I wonder who they polled.

According to this Jew lot
Jewish Non-Jewish Population of Israel Palestine 1517-Present Jewish Virtual Library
the 2014 population of Palestine (Sometimes known as Israel) was 75% Jew, 25% the real owners of the land.
That, as a note is a far greater percentage of jews when you look at 1517, then there were only a handful of Jews in the area, less than 2 in every hundred people.

The idiotic OP is trying to suggest Arabs also dislike this woman, when the truth is, the poll will have been taken amongst extremist Zionist Jews.

So who gave those 25% of the inhabitants the land then, as the last two legal owners didn't. Can you produce the treaties signed by the Palestinian representatives, or signed by the Ottomans, LoN that gave the land of Palestine to the " SYRIANS" as they called themselves up until 1960

 

[Indofred]

over 85% of Israelis polled

Of Israelis polled - I wonder who they polled.

According to this Jew lot
Jewish Non-Jewish Population of Israel Palestine 1517-Present Jewish Virtual Library
the 2014 population of Palestine (Sometimes known as Israel) was 75% Jew, 25% the real owners of the land.
That, as a note is a far greater percentage of jews when you look at 1517, then there were only a handful of Jews in the area, less than 2 in every hundred people.

The idiotic OP is trying to suggest Arabs also dislike this woman, when the truth is, the poll will have been taken amongst extremist Zionist Jews.

So who gave those 25% of the inhabitants the land then, as the last two legal owners didn't. Can you produce the treaties signed by the Palestinian representatives, or signed by the Ottomans, LoN that gave the land of Palestine to the " SYRIANS" as they called themselves up until 1960

So, if it was stolen by one person, someone stealing it later is fine?
Zionists seem to think so, but Jews want their stuff back from Swiss banks.
Take your pick.

 

[Lipush]

You know, the more the Israelis do what they actually want to do the more everyone else realises they are not just pretending to be Nazis, but are the real thing.

The people don't want a certain minister in the Knesset, and act to bring her down. Not only this isn't Nazi, but it's the most democratic thing there is. The ability to choose who represents you.

I thought she was elected.

True.

But once she goes against the constitution, fact tat she was elected doesn't mean much.

What will happen once Obama starts doing things against the American constitution? will it get a free pass?

 

[Lipush]

I try to challenge you into a healthy discussion, I want to know if you're in.

You talk about democracy, so I ask again, how is it democratic to go against the will of 85% of the nation, and how is it democratic to keep in position a memeber of the parlament who goes AGAINST the parlament.

You're so enlightened, wise, and virtuous, so please, O wise one, elighten me.

We have a Socialist/Communist Senator from Vermont...Only Elections can remove the will of the Electorate in America...Lip, Israel is a de-facto Zionist Dictatorship...

The ruling of minority against the will or mojority is a classig example of dictatorship.

85% of the people pays her salary, when they want to bring her down. Isn't that a better example of dictatorship?

 

[Lipush]

over 85% of Israelis polled

Of Israelis polled - I wonder who they polled.

According to this Jew lot
Jewish Non-Jewish Population of Israel Palestine 1517-Present Jewish Virtual Library
the 2014 population of Palestine (Sometimes known as Israel) was 75% Jew, 25% the real owners of the land.
That, as a note is a far greater percentage of jews when you look at 1517, then there were only a handful of Jews in the area, less than 2 in every hundred people.

The idiotic OP is trying to suggest Arabs also dislike this woman, when the truth is, the poll will have been taken amongst extremist Zionist Jews.

Well, she represented herself as nominate to become Nazereth mayor, and recieved about 2% of the votes.

So yeah, even the Arabs don't like her.

 

[Lipush]

Ah, well the ability to remove someone who represents people who are NOT you is the other side of the coin there Lipush.

You can try to paint this as "Democracy In Action" as much as you like, but while you operate a dictatorship of Approved Peoples only, your credentials, err - lack a little something.

Ok then, so how about bringing down someone who has obviously acted against the law? Against the constitution?

Someone who represents a state but acts against its constitution has nothing to look for in the seats of the Parlament.

Ohhh, go on <lol> . . . the apartheid state of Israel has no constitution. You obviously don't know s**t from Shinola about those whom you champion. ~ Susan

Of course I don't. I studied the Israeli law for 3 and a half years, but what the hell do I know.

Israel holds 11 basic laws, 9 of them centered around the parlament and government, the remaining 2 talk about human rights. Israel had a constitutional revolution in 1992, when it declaired the basic laws her new "constitution" since the Harari decision to create a constitution previously, failed. So Israel, unofficially, DOES have a constitution, starting 1993.

De me a favor, Suzie.

Don't argue about things you have no idea about. Ok?

 

[Lipush]

Zoabi was elected, so tough titty.
You should be proud of the Supreme court for overturning the previous attempt to ban her.
I am at odds with Israel on many occasions but there are also many laws and principles as a jew I admire.
The protection of a women's right to abortion and that the state delivers it free in most cases is only one.
The fact that a transvestite represented Israel in the Eurovision is another.

It's not exacty "tough titty" at all.

And it is not a matter of being elected or not, once the member of the Knesset goes against the constitution, AGAIN.

Here is Israeli law 101, for you:

The Israeli 'Limitation Clause' (Article 4 of the Basic Law regarding 'freedom of labor') states that the protected basic laws regarding human rights (more specifically Article 8 of the law regarding 'Human Dignity') can be harmed under three conditions-

1. It suits the values of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.

2. It is in the right proportion

3. Was ment for a proper porpuse.

If looking at the first condition, the question regarding "suiting Israel as a Jewish and democratic state" is needed answering. What does it mean? That a certain law which goes against the Israeli government Itself, cannot pass.

The Knesset Basic Law says further (Article 7a)

A candidates list shall not participate in elections to the Knesset, and a person shall not be a candidate for election to the Knesset, if the goals or actions of the list or the actions of the person, expressly or by implication, include one of the following:

1. Negation of the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state

2. Incitement to racism

3.support for armed struggle by a hostile state or a terrorist organization against the State of Israel

Mr. Zoabi did all of the above. Her election itself was against the Israeli law. she was not supposed to be even a candidate.

A little history now: In 1971 Rabbi Me'ir Kahane created his own political movement, called "Kach". It was very radical, most of the bills were very racist and quite rediculous, they sopported expelling all the arabs and punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs.... It was undoubtfully tactless and unhelpful, any sane person will tell you.

So logically enough, they prevented the party from further participance in any election, declaring that a racist movement should not be even a candidate. Because it was racist it was also undemocratic, because they wanted the Jewish law to be the law, instead of the state. Some of the supporters were against that, but it was the right thing to do, and the Israeli high court was more than enthusiastic to give them the "no-no".

So I ask, why when it comes to Zo'abi, there is such a problem? Because she's ARAB?

Hardly a good reason.

 

[Indofred]

punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs

I see no problem with Jewish women trying to get sexual satisfaction from real men, when Jews can't do the honours.
I understand "floppy Jew syndrome" is quite common so the whore Jewesses get it from Arab men, and often waive their usual fees in order to experience a climax.
Disappointed Jew wives are often to be seen in Arab areas, cruising for an Arab man.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You know, the more the Israelis do what they actually want to do the more everyone else realises they are not just pretending to be Nazis, but are the real thing.

The people don't want a certain minister in the Knesset, and act to bring her down. Not only this isn't Nazi, but it's the most democratic thing there is. The ability to choose who represents you.

I thought she was elected.

True.

But once she goes against the constitution, fact tat she was elected doesn't mean much.

What will happen once Obama starts doing things against the American constitution? will it get a free pass?

He has been so far as did Bush, Clinton, and decades of congress.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You know, the more the Israelis do what they actually want to do the more everyone else realises they are not just pretending to be Nazis, but are the real thing.

The people don't want a certain minister in the Knesset, and act to bring her down. Not only this isn't Nazi, but it's the most democratic thing there is. The ability to choose who represents you.

I thought she was elected.

So are American presidents, but the people can unelect them cant they. . There is always a means of ridding a government of a rotten apple, and most are legal. At least they have not resorted to the Islamic solution of blowing her up............

In theory that is true. In reality it won't happen. Our corporate media tells us who to vote for and most of us do.

It is embarrassing to know that we have been duped into voting for Obama twice, and Bush twice.

All because the corporate media lies to the voters.

 

[rhodescholar]

Exactly! Because she is an Arab, Jewish members of the Knesset obviously discriminate against her . . . remember, apartheid Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East <guffaw> unless of course, you elect to oppose the opinion of the majority in power. ~ Susan

Because a person was elected means they cannot commit crimes? The assholes who pass for arab muslim defenders in this forum are just so weak its hard to believe they even try.

 

[docmauser1]

punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs

I see no problem with Jewish women trying to get sexual satisfaction from real men, when Jews can't do the honours. I understand "floppy Jew syndrome" is quite common so the whore Jewesses get it from Arab men, and often waive their usual fees in order to experience a climax. Disappointed Jew wives are often to be seen in Arab areas, cruising for an Arab man.

Ah, arab angst.

 

[Lipush]

punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs

I see no problem with Jewish women trying to get sexual satisfaction from real men, when Jews can't do the honours.
I understand "floppy Jew syndrome" is quite common so the whore Jewesses get it from Arab men, and often waive their usual fees in order to experience a climax.
Disappointed Jew wives are often to be seen in Arab areas, cruising for an Arab man.

Yes, and then when the Arab men start using punches, it turns less romantic.

 

[Lipush]

Zoabi was elected, so tough titty.

Exactly! Because she is an Arab, Jewish members of the Knesset obviously discriminate against her . . . remember, apartheid Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East <guffaw> unless of course, you elect to oppose the opinion of the majority in power. ~ Susan

Wow, you're an idiot. Do you ever bother looking for facts, or singing whatever they fed you in Al-Quaeda-Are-us?

 

[Indofred]

punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs

I see no problem with Jewish women trying to get sexual satisfaction from real men, when Jews can't do the honours.
I understand "floppy Jew syndrome" is quite common so the whore Jewesses get it from Arab men, and often waive their usual fees in order to experience a climax.
Disappointed Jew wives are often to be seen in Arab areas, cruising for an Arab man.

Yes, and then when the Arab men start using punches, it turns less romantic.

No, you're mixing real men up with your Jew things.

Judaism Confronts Wife-Beating Graetz Women in Judaism A Multidisciplinary Journal

The New York Times and you will hear about rabbis' wives who are beaten by their husbands, surgeons' wives who stay in abusive marriages for 12-16 years, Kosher shelters and kitchens for Jewish victims of domestic violence in New York City and Boston. The numbers being bandied about in the media vary from 19-25% The conspiracy of silence is breaking, but not fast enough.

http://www.beki.org/domestic.html

By Rabbi Jon-Jay Tilsen

The question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is used as a classic example of a question which cannot be properly answered "yes" or "no," since saying "yes" is an implicit admission that one had been beating his wife, and answering "no" can be taken as an admission that one continues to beat his wife. Unfortunately, ten percent of the husbands in Israel may properly answer this question "yes" or "no," because as many as ten percent of the husbands in this country beat their wives.1 In the same way that many people wish to deny the existence of the problem today, so too writers of Jewish history have sought to minimize or deny the incidence of wife-beating in the past.2

10% of Israel Jews beat up their wives.
Regardless of religion, nationality, or whatever, that's ******* terrible, so I condemn all wife beating bastards, not just one group (as some here do).

 

[Hossfly]

punishing Jewish women having sex with Arabs

I see no problem with Jewish women trying to get sexual satisfaction from real men, when Jews can't do the honours. I understand "floppy Jew syndrome" is quite common so the whore Jewesses get it from Arab men, and often waive their usual fees in order to experience a climax. Disappointed Jew wives are often to be seen in Arab areas, cruising for an Arab man.

Ah, arab angst.

It's just Freddie trying to tell us in a roundabout way that he is very sexually frustrated. Maybe we should pass around the hat so that he can order some Viagra online. This way he wouldn't have to sneak into an Indonesian pharmacy and whisper to the sales clerk what he wants. He doesn't want the women in his neighborhood to know he isn't a stud.