Poland prepares plans to invade Belarus

[Kruska]

... So we both agree that the cause of this war, which Putin insists is not a war, is Russian imperialism.

It's obvious that you can't read nor comprehend factual statements, or you are internationally presenting false statements, via echoing falsifications onto my previous statements.

1. Where did I state that it isn't a war? - show me -answer
2. Where did I state that NATO's expansionist Imperialism is not the cause for the present Ukraine/Russia war? - show me -answer
3. Where did I state that Putin aka Russia engages in or towards Imperialism or beholds an imperialistic agenda? - show me - answer

Answer those three questions - and refrain from constantly bringing in new silly assumptions and internationally falsified statements of yours.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It's obvious that you can't read nor comprehend factual statements, or you are internationally falsifying my statements.

1. Where did I state that it isn't a war? - show me -answer
2. Where did I state that NATO's expansionist Imperialism is not the cause for the present Ukraine/Russia war? - show me -answer
3. Where did I state that Putin aka Russia engages in or towards Imperialism or beholds an imperialistic agenda? - show me - answer

Answer those three questions - and refrain from constantly bringing in new silly assumptions and false statements of yours.

You need to take some deep breathes and maybe your reading comprehension will improve. You never said it wasn't a war, but Putin says it is not a war but a special military operation, so I was just pointing out to you that if you lived in Russia, you could be sent to prison for calling the fighting in Ukraine a war, just to point out how very dissociated from reality the Russian narrative is.

Perhaps you don't know what the word, imperialism, means:

What is a simple definition of imperialism?


Imperialism is when one country exercises power over another through various methods of control. It describes an economic, political, and social system in which one country subjugates others, and brings them under its control.Nov 30, 2022

Russia trying to take control of Ukraine is a clear act of imperialism, which you try to justify with the bizarre claim that the possible future membership of Ukraine in NATO might put Russia at risk. Russia asserting control over other nations, is imperialism which you then try to justify with by talking nonsense about NATO.

 

[Kruska]

You never said it wasn't a war,

Correct - thanks

but Putin says it is not a war

Correct - he never declared war onto Ukraine, nor does he speak of a war with Ukraine - he does however clearly state that NATO is engaged in a proxy war with Russia !!!
And around 40 countries, openly agree with him.

What is a simple definition of imperialism?

To exert political, economic and military control/pressure onto a peaceful sovereign country or territory.
(Most favored version to conduct Imperialism by the USA/NATO)? imposing Sanctions onto those countries opposing US/NATO imperialism.

Sending French troops into Rwanda (before it became a UN mandate) to stop genocide therefore isn't imperialism nor French imperialism. However to support a dubious government via French troops in Rwanda before genocide broke out - was clearly French imperialism.

Was Bush senior. sending US Marines into Somalia - US Imperialism? after-all these Marines were not part nor under the command of the UN aka UNOSOM II, but under direct command of President Bush with the USA commanding/leading UNITAF forces.

As such sending e.g. Russian troops to protect separatists aka civilians from being attacked (aka civil-war) and suppressed via a resented and rejected government as well as Ukrainian NAZI militias, e.g. Donbas/Luhansk and Crimea, isn't imperialism by definition at all.

Russia trying to take control of Ukraine is a clear act of imperialism, which you try to justify with the bizarre claim that the possible future membership of Ukraine in NATO might put Russia at risk.

No - Russia is trying to take control away from NATO in regards to Ukraine - due to NATO being imperialistic - clearly demonstrated via it's non-stop eastward - expansion since 1990. Whilst Russia demanded and relied onto NEUTRALITY of former Warsaw -Pact states. Putin aka Russia, nor Yeltsin, NEVER demanded nor pursued that e.g. Romania or e.g. Hungary joins the Russian Federations economic or military organizations. Ukraine had already broken the Alma-Ata, CIS protocol of 1991, in 1994 and 1998. Same goes for Georgia.

Your claimed/propagated Russian imperialism, especially in regards to former USSR territory, is a pure NATO and Western MSM hype. - with NO proof whatsoever at all.

You could only prove Russian Imperialism - if a NEUTRAL Ukraine, or e.g. Kazakhstan, or e.g. Lithuania would have been attacked by Russia - can you? NO YOU CAN'T.
And anything one can't forward proof, but comments onto - is what it is: A mere personal assumption, or an intentional false statement.

Russia asserting control over other nations, is imperialism which you then try to justify with by talking nonsense about NATO.

What other nations? - and you still haven't come up with a single valid proof in that regard - again just a mere assumption or an intentional false statement of yours.

 

[Ringo]

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[toomuchtime_]

Correct - thanks

Correct - he never declared war onto Ukraine, nor does he speak of a war with Ukraine - he does however clearly state that NATO is engaged in a proxy war with Russia !!!
And around 40 countries, openly agree with him.

To exert political, economic and military control/pressure onto a peaceful sovereign country or territory.
(Most favored version to conduct Imperialism by the USA/NATO)? imposing Sanctions onto those countries opposing US/NATO imperialism.

Sending French troops into Rwanda (before it became a UN mandate) to stop genocide therefore isn't imperialism nor French imperialism. However to support a dubious government via French troops in Rwanda before genocide broke out - was clearly French imperialism.

Was Bush senior. sending US Marines into Somalia - US Imperialism? after-all these Marines were not part nor under the command of the UN aka UNOSOM II, but under direct command of President Bush with the USA commanding/leading UNITAF forces.

As such sending e.g. Russian troops to protect separatists aka civilians from being attacked (aka civil-war) and suppressed via a resented and rejected government as well as Ukrainian NAZI militias, e.g. Donbas/Luhansk and Crimea, isn't imperialism by definition at all.

No - Russia is trying to take control away from NATO in regards to Ukraine - due to NATO being imperialistic - clearly demonstrated via it's non-stop eastward - expansion since 1990. Whilst Russia demanded and relied onto NEUTRALITY of former Warsaw -Pact states. Putin aka Russia, nor Yeltsin, NEVER demanded nor pursued that e.g. Romania or e.g. Hungary joins the Russian Federations economic or military organizations. Ukraine had already broken the Alma-Ata, CIS protocol of 1991, in 1994 and 1998. Same goes for Georgia.

Your claimed/propagated Russian imperialism, especially in regards to former USSR territory, is a pure NATO and Western MSM hype. - with NO proof whatsoever at all.

You could only prove Russian Imperialism - if a NEUTRAL Ukraine, or e.g. Kazakhstan, or e.g. Lithuania would have been attacked by Russia - can you? NO YOU CAN'T.
And anything one can't forward proof, but comments onto - is what it is: A mere personal assumption, or an intentional false statement.


What other nations? - and you still haven't come up with a single valid proof in that regard - again just a mere assumption or an intentional false statement of yours.

I understand that you will rant and rave about NATO until the last Russian scurries back to Russia, but the fact is taking control of another nation is imperialism, and your nonsense about NATO and nazis is just your way of trying to justify Russian imperialism. Russia is not attacking NATO but is attacking weak countries who might want to join NATO in order to protect themselves against Russia.

 

[Kruska]

I understand that you will rant and rave about NATO until the last Russian scurries back to Russia, but the fact is taking control of another nation is imperialism, and your nonsense about NATO and nazis is just your way of trying to justify Russian imperialism. Russia is not attacking NATO but is attacking weak countries who might want to join NATO in order to protect themselves against Russia.

Again you are INTENTIONALLY forwarding false statements.
1.) attacking a single country due to facing an imminent threat - such as having a future potential NATO neighbor, has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Imperialism.
2.) again you are lying in regards to Russia attacking weak (plural) countries (Ukraine is a single country and it ain't weak)
3.) That you are even disputing known and proven NAZI militias such as Azow Brigade - having murdered around in Donbas - just shows in what stage of denial you live.

It's obvious that you will rant and rave about any country that opposes the waring, warmongering and aggressive expansionist US/NATO imperialism, practiced&proven since 1990.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Again you are INTENTIONALLY forwarding false statements.
1.) attacking a single country due to facing an imminent threat - such as having a future potential NATO neighbor, has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Imperialism.
2.) again you are lying in regards to Russia attacking weak (plural) countries (Ukraine is a single country and it ain't weak)
3.) That you are even disputing known and proven NAZI militias such as Azow Brigade - having murdered around in Donbas - just shows in what stage of denial you live.

It's obvious that you will rant and rave about any country that opposes the waring, warmongering and aggressive expansionist US/NATO imperialism, practiced&proven since 1990.

Blah blah blah

What is a simple definition of imperialism?


Imperialism is when one country exercises power over another through various methods of control. It describes an economic, political, and social system in which one country subjugates others, and brings them under its control.Nov 30, 2022

 

[beagle9]

Why does beagle9 want Russia to retake all of the countries to the west that it added after WWII?

Why do you lie, and try to assume for political reasons what a person is or isn't thinking ? Ohhhhhhh that's the nefarious Democrat running strong in your blood is what that is.

You truly can't help yourself.

Placing yourself in the same place ole Satan was in, otherwise when he was in heaven (before God kicked him out), is very becoming of you.

 

[Kruska]

Blah blah blah

What is a simple definition of imperialism?


Imperialism is when one country exercises power over another through various methods of control. It describes an economic, political, and social system in which one country subjugates others, and brings them under its control.Nov 30, 2022

You forward total nonsense - attacking a single country has absolutely nothing to do with Imperialism.

Imperialism derives from the Latin word Imperium aka Empire. Your forwarded definition is as ridiculous and misplaced, as accusing Vietnam of Imperialism due to having attacked and occupied Cambodia in 1978/9. At the most one can term it as a regional hegemonic policy by Vietnam.

It's absolutely hilarious as to how you intentionally and falsely accuse others - e.g. Russia of Imperialism, whilst denying the absolute fact of US/NATO imperialism and their non-stop warmongering actions since 1990 - resulting into a dozen utterly destroyed countries and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians. It's commonly termed HYPOCRISY

 

[toomuchtime_]

You forward total nonsense - attacking a single country has absolutely nothing to do with Imperialism.

Imperialism derives from the Latin word Imperium aka Empire. Your forwarded definition is as ridiculous and misplaced, as accusing Vietnam of Imperialism due to having attacked and occupied Cambodia in 1978/9. At the most one can term it as a regional hegemonic policy by Vietnam.

It's absolutely hilarious as to how you intentionally and falsely accuse others - e.g. Russia of Imperialism, whilst denying the absolute fact of US/NATO imperialism and their non-stop warmongering actions since 1990 - resulting into a dozen utterly destroyed countries and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians. It's commonly termed HYPOCRISY

All the definitions of imperialism I could find, and I'm sure you could find, are basically the same.

What is a simple definition of imperialism?


Imperialism is when one country exercises power over another through various methods of control. It describes an economic, political, and social system in which one country subjugates others, and brings them under its control.Nov 30, 2022

Your little hissy fits over NATO do not change the fact that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was motivated by imperialist ambitions.

 

[Kruska]

.... the fact that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was motivated by imperialist ambitions.

First: Something for which there is no proof - can't be termed FACT.

Secondly: Attacking another country has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Imperialism.

Thirdly: It's absolutely hilarious as to how you intentionally and falsely accuse others - e.g. Russia of Imperialism, whilst denying the absolute fact of US/NATO imperialism and their non-stop warmongering actions since 1990 - resulting into a dozen utterly destroyed countries and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians. It's commonly termed HYPOCRISY

Fourth: You posts are extremely boring - endlessly repetitive whilst beholding no facts - and therefore not worth to receive further replies from me.

 

[toomuchtime_]

First: Something for which there is no proof - can't be termed FACT.

Secondly: Attacking another country has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Imperialism.

Thirdly: It's absolutely hilarious as to how you intentionally and falsely accuse others - e.g. Russia of Imperialism, whilst denying the absolute fact of US/NATO imperialism and their non-stop warmongering actions since 1990 - resulting into a dozen utterly destroyed countries and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians. It's commonly termed HYPOCRISY

Fourth: You posts are extremely boring - endlessly repetitive whilst beholding no facts - and therefore not worth to receive further replies from me.

Clearly Russia's actions in Ukraine fit the definition of imperialism. There is simply nothing more to say about it.

 

[skye]

One way or another....if Poland is stupid enough to start armed provocations, I'm sure Belarus will respond in a fitting manner.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Then, beagle9, deny that is what you want. Simple.

If you do deny it, though you will be lying.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Belarus will do exactly that. It will immediately surrender.,

One way or another....if Poland is stupid enough to start armed provocations, I'm sure Belarus will respond in a fitting manner.

deny that is what you want. Simple.

If you do deny it, though you will be lying.

 

[Kruska]

One way or another....if Poland is stupid enough to start armed provocations, I'm sure Belarus will respond in a fitting manner.

Conventionally - there is absolutely no chance for Belarus to win militarily or survive politically an attack by Poland - this is known and therefore Russia and Belarus have allied/aligned with each other already a long time ago. It would certainly mean or result into a nuclear confrontation, between Russia and whoever attacks Belarus.

IMO - absolutely no one in the Western part of the European NATO (not even the UK) - would be willing to risk an open nuclear confrontation with Russia. (Suicidal).
Therefore Poland, in such a hypothetical scenario would be practically on their own - and Russia would take this "one time chance" to totally obliterate them, aka getting to obliterate a NATO member per invitation.

 

[beagle9]

I understand that you will rant and rave about NATO until the last Russian scurries back to Russia, but the fact is taking control of another nation is imperialism, and your nonsense about NATO and nazis is just your way of trying to justify Russian imperialism. Russia is not attacking NATO but is attacking weak countries who might want to join NATO in order to protect themselves against Russia.

Why would Ukraine figure that it had to protect itself against it's neighbor, who let it become an independent nation that sought to be independent once the Soviet Union was desolved ?

Wasn't there an issue prior to this war, that concerned oil pipe lines running through Ukraine, and Ukraine making demands on Russia concerning the oil pipe lines, and then the issue of clean water being allowed to flow into Crimea that is of course water controlled by Ukraine ?

So energy was involved, water is also involved, Russian speaking citizen's along with their treatment by the Ukraine government (within the Ukrainian territories after the soviet union break up), is involved, and what else was or is involved ??

These are long disputes in this region in which involves those who were once citizen's of the Soviet Empire, and we are there for what reason exactly ?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Why would Ukraine figure that it had to protect itself against it's neighbor, who let it become an independent nation that sought to be independent once the Soviet Union was desolved ?

Wasn't there an issue prior to this war, that concerned oil pipe lines running through Ukraine, and Ukraine making demands on Russia concerning the oil pipe lines, and then the issue of clean water being allowed to flow into Crimea that is of course water controlled by Ukraine ?

So energy was involved, water is also involved, Russian speaking citizen's along with their treatment by the Ukraine government (within the Ukrainian territories after the soviet union break up), is involved, and what else was or is involved ??

These are long disputes in this region in which involves those who were once citizen's of the Soviet Empire, and we are there for what reason exactly ?

First off, the US is not there and no one except people who are opposed to US aid talks about the US being there. However if the US had been there before the invasion, there would have been no invasion and if the US had entered the conflict after the invasion started, the US would have quickly gained control of the skies from Russia's outdated air force and pounded Russian troops to dust in the first few weeks.

However, as I said, no one is talkiing about sending US troops to Ukraine except people who claim to be opposed to aid to Ukraine.

So the answer to your question why are we there, is that we aren't there and will not be there. This being the case, a more appropriate question would have been, does it serve US interests to provide aid to Ukraine so it can defend itself against Russian imperialism? The answer is, yes, as a member of NATO, it serves US interests to see Russian imperialists stopped in Ukraine rather than for US troops having to face Russian troops directly across Ukraine's western border.

 

[beagle9]

First off, the US is not there and no one except people who are opposed to US aid talks about the US being there. However if the US had been there before the invasion, there would have been no invasion and if the US had entered the conflict after the invasion started, the US would have quickly gained control of the skies from Russia's outdated air force and pounded Russian troops to dust in the first few weeks.

However, as I said, no one is talkiing about sending US troops to Ukraine except people who claim to be opposed to aid to Ukraine.

So the answer to your question why are we there, is that we aren't there and will not be there. This being the case, a more appropriate question would have been, does it serve US interests to provide aid to Ukraine so it can defend itself against Russian imperialism? The answer is, yes, as a member of NATO, it serves US interests to see Russian imperialists stopped in Ukraine rather than for US troops having to face Russian troops directly across Ukraine's western border.

Ok, I'm an American you just told that too, but how does Russia see it in your view ??? Be truthful now.

Do you think that Russia figures that without foreign aid, the Ukrainian's would have staved off the invasion for this long, and would have cost the Russian's so much in man power and equipment in the situation ?

Ok, so we are aiding Ukraine in the thinking that if the free world don't help, then it will soon face Russian aggression within territories that NATO controls or operates in ???? Wouldn't that trigger a nuclear war ? Is Russia that stupid to risk that ?? Also, did you think before seeing the Russians in action on the battlefield dealing with modern warfare, that they truly weren't ready for it or is it that your view of it all now is 20/20 ????

In fact the entire world is watching and cringing as they realize they might not be ready for a modern day war either. Even China is now watching with a pause on it's saber rattling because of what it's seeing in the exchange between Russia and Ukraine.

They are all watching as their armies and equipment are rendered obsolete in the new war tactics used.

 

[Litwin]

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