Planned Parenthood: False Allegations and the Clown Car

Actually, kazmania is a place, dumb ass. It's the land I rule. I am kaz, ruler of kazmania, land of liberty. I more make suggestions than actual decrees. Most of the time I actually say whatever, if you aren't hurting anyone do whatever you want

Calling me a dumb ass is not a rebuttal and I'm Mr. Catcher to you.

Admitting mania is the first step toward treatment. KAZmania is a state of mind, the mind of a maniac. Obsessed by an ideology, and so sure of its truth, the afflicted proselytize a hypothesis of government by the individual, for the individual and one rejected by by the voters every time a true believer runs for office.

Socialism used by you is a pejorative, an example of someone incapable of making a concise and clear rebuttal.

Actually, socialism is government control over the economy, which is what you endlessly want to further. It's a word with a meaning, Holmes

It's a pejorative when posted by a member of the right. Government regulates the economy Watson, it doesn't control it.

Our government is way beyond "regulating" our economy. Dude, they even mandate healthcare. They are controlling it

The government doesn't mandate that you take care of your own health. They constitutionally tax the public so that each citizen can afford proper medical care, and punish the scofflaws who refuse to pay their tax.

It's really that simple, at least for those who are not KAZmaniacs.
 
If PP was selling puppy organs their funding would have been cut off immediately. Or heaven forbid, lion organs from lions killed by hunters.

our society is very screwed up right now.

You and the person who thanked you for your post need to read the link. Or, you can continue to lie by inference. PP DID NOT sell body parts, of course that fact will not disabuse you and her, as proud and loud members of the echo chamber.

The truth should make you mute, sadly it never does.

Why don't you just post the video, you've obviously watched it yourself....right?

It was posted.

The edited version or the whole thing?

"Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research."

 
Calling me a dumb ass is not a rebuttal and I'm Mr. Catcher to you.

Admitting mania is the first step toward treatment. KAZmania is a state of mind, the mind of a maniac. Obsessed by an ideology, and so sure of its truth, the afflicted proselytize a hypothesis of government by the individual, for the individual and one rejected by by the voters every time a true believer runs for office.

Socialism used by you is a pejorative, an example of someone incapable of making a concise and clear rebuttal.

Actually, socialism is government control over the economy, which is what you endlessly want to further. It's a word with a meaning, Holmes

It's a pejorative when posted by a member of the right. Government regulates the economy Watson, it doesn't control it.

Our government is way beyond "regulating" our economy. Dude, they even mandate healthcare. They are controlling it

The government doesn't mandate that you take care of your own health. They constitutionally tax the public so that each citizen can afford proper medical care, and punish the scofflaws who refuse to pay their tax.

It's really that simple, at least for those who are not KAZmaniacs.

Swish. Government forces companies to provide insurance for their employees and what insurance to provide. You really are an idiot to think I meant what you said, wow.

as for kazmaniacs, employers and employees are free to negotiate their own best deals, I as head of state do not interfere in that
 
Socialism used by you is a pejorative, an example of someone incapable of making a concise and clear rebuttal.

Actually, socialism is government control over the economy, which is what you endlessly want to further. It's a word with a meaning, Holmes

It's a pejorative when posted by a member of the right. Government regulates the economy Watson, it doesn't control it.

Our government is way beyond "regulating" our economy. Dude, they even mandate healthcare. They are controlling it

The government doesn't mandate that you take care of your own health. They constitutionally tax the public so that each citizen can afford proper medical care, and punish the scofflaws who refuse to pay their tax.

It's really that simple, at least for those who are not KAZmaniacs.

Swish. Government forces companies to provide insurance for their employees and what insurance to provide. You really are an idiot to think I meant what you said, wow.

as for kazmaniacs, employers and employees are free to negotiate their own best deals, I as head of state do not interfere in that

Non sequitur, ad hominem and deflection^^^. KAZmaniac, get therapy.
 
I won't let my wife give you money. Is money sex?

I won't let my wife give you her car. Is that sex?

You're another fucking idiot.
So the answer is no, why? Because a blow job is sex. Thanks for proving my point.
Why is a blowjob sex?
It's not called oral sex, for no reason.
Mitt Romney was called "severely conservative", too.
Romney has nothing to do with a blow job, but a Lewinsky will forever be known for a blow job!
Yes. And Dubya will forever be known for his Bushisms. Those don't equate to sex, either.

Do you have a point?
 
Why do Republicans hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted Gays?
You say we hate women? Why, because we think of them more than just cum catchers?
No, because you think you can tell them what to do with their own bodies.

Freedom for me but not for thee.
Freedom to kill their off spring?
Freedom to follow the law.

You remember rule of law, don't you? I thought you wingnuts "revered" the Constitution.
 
Why do Republicans hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted Gays?
You say we hate women? Why, because we think of them more than just cum catchers?
No, because you think you can tell them what to do with their own bodies.

Freedom for me but not for thee.
Freedom to kill their off spring?
Freedom to follow the law.

You remember rule of law, don't you? I thought you wingnuts "revered" the Constitution.

The USMB Conservatives revere those parts of the Constitution which they interpret to fit nicely into the box of dogma they hold near and dear. Other parts they want to repeal, or to spin to fit their needs.
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone

"Bye bye, you are gone" is a means to ignore an obvious truth by one whose entire effort was to convince others of another BIG LIE.
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone

"Bye bye, you are gone" is a means to ignore an obvious truth by one whose entire effort was to convince others of another BIG LIE.


nothing you have ever posted even comes close to truth. You are a liar and a dem/lib parrot.

STFU and go catch some Rye.
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone

"Bye bye, you are gone" is a means to ignore an obvious truth by one whose entire effort was to convince others of another BIG LIE.

When he presented a quote of mine in a quote box that said I thought a position I was arguing against, that is me trying to "ignore an obvious proof?" That he removed all the arguments against a position and said I said I was for it? That's stupid, even for you.

Da Rules, Bitch: "Editing quotes. You may selectively quote, provided that it does not change the context or meaning of the quote." I agree with that rule whole heartedly. Liberals can write all the stupid liberal crap you want, but don't present it as if I said something I didn't.

I was on the verge of ignoring him for being an eight year old anyway. I am tired of school yard arguments and that's all he offers. Have you checked out his oral sex isn't sex line? She is just a waste of time, the no it isn't crap isn't even fun
 
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Why do Republicans hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted Gays?
You say we hate women? Why, because we think of them more than just cum catchers?
No, because you think you can tell them what to do with their own bodies.

Freedom for me but not for thee.
Freedom to kill their off spring?
Freedom to follow the law.

You remember rule of law, don't you? I thought you wingnuts "revered" the Constitution.

The USMB Conservatives revere those parts of the Constitution which they interpret to fit nicely into the box of dogma they hold near and dear. Other parts they want to repeal, or to spin to fit their needs.
Do you not realize planned parenthood are selling babies intact? That means they are born alive! But you have no problem with it. There is a special place in hell for you.
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone

"Bye bye, you are gone" is a means to ignore an obvious truth by one whose entire effort was to convince others of another BIG LIE.


nothing you have ever posted even comes close to truth. You are a liar and a dem/lib parrot.

STFU and go catch some Rye.

Thanks for sharing. Ad hominem's (that is a logical fallacy, look it up) is another way to avoid posting a clear and concise rebuttal. If I've lied, post the lie and evidence it is mendacious.

As for my being a parrot, that's laughable coming from you.
 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone

"Bye bye, you are gone" is a means to ignore an obvious truth by one whose entire effort was to convince others of another BIG LIE.

When he presented a quote of mine in a quote box that said I thought a position I was arguing against, that is me trying to "ignore an obvious proof?" That he removed all the arguments against a position and said I said I was for it? That's stupid, even for you.

Da Rules, Bitch: "Editing quotes. You may selectively quote, provided that it does not change the context or meaning of the quote." I agree with that rule whole heartedly. Liberals can write all the stupid liberal crap you want, but don't present it as if I said something I didn't.

I was on the verge of ignoring him for being an eight year old anyway. I am tired of school yard arguments and that's all he offers. Have you checked out his oral sex isn't sex line? She is just a waste of time, the no it isn't crap isn't even fun

I'm sorry, I have trouble getting past your first paragraph, please fix the syntax.

As for the rest, the rant is inappropriate and also unintelligible. Did you or did you not write, "Bye bye, you are gone"?
 
UN documents have no authority in the USA. Want a socialst revolution? Cuba had one, so did north korea. I am sure you would be welcome in either of those socialist utopias.

Funny, I thought the US was a signing member of the UN. They are even a permanent member of the security council with a veto which they use quite often.

And there's a difference between a socialist utopia and a communist police state comrade, I could also tell you to move to the libertarian utopia of Somalia. No government, no taxes, no rules, everyone has a gun and you're expected to survive on their own.
The problem with your "we the people" bullshit is that "you the people" want someone else to pay for what you think the govt owes you.

Not really, I pay a lot more in taxes than I get back in benefits. But I don't mind since I'm not a selfish bastard with an Ayn Rand fixation.
Grow the F(^* up and take responsibility for your own life. The govt owes you nothing.

Of course the government owes me, when I pay taxes I'm entitled to get something in return. Healthcare for example.

:banana:
 
then how do you support your claim that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?

Fallacy of the Loaded Question ^^^

You don't even know what that is, Wry. Stop trying to sound smart. You aren't. Answer the question.

Probably the better fallacy is this:

Appeal to a Lack of Evidence(Argumentum Ad Ignorantium, literally "Argument from Ignorance"): Appealing to a lack of information to prove a point, or arguing that, since the opposition cannot disprove a claim, the opposite stance must be true. An example of such an argument is the assertion that ghosts must exist because no one has been able to prove that they do not exist. Logicians know this is a logical fallacy because no competing argument has yet revealed itself.

Complex Question (Also called the "Loaded Question"): Phrasing a question or statement in such as way as to imply another unproven statement is true without evidence or discussion.

Mea culpa, I took logic my sophomore year at CAL, 1966. In the future I will check my statements for accuracy.



Citing logical fallacies in lieu of an actual position is simple deflection. You are appealing to lack of evidence by having NO evidence.

It's not my job to prove the statement of others. I've made my positions very clear.

1. Libertarians are ideologues and stuck in a box of ideas, with no concept of how they might work in a nation the size of the US. Their platform completely rejects pragmatic solutions which conflict with their dogma.

2. Republicans have made avarice into a virtue, when once it was a deadly sin. They have rejected the principle of a social contract and cherry pick ideas from the Enlightenment to suit their personal needs.

3. CU has put the last nail into the coffin of our once democratic republic, we have made the transition to an Oligrachy of the Rich and Powerful an appears to me to be a 21st Century version of fascism.

4. The Great Threat to Capitalism isn't Communism or Socialism - it is the greed of the capitalists and the power elite. They should have learned from OWS.

5. Education is the cure for a nation's malaise, and can mitigate most of its ills.

6. Government creates jobs, as does the private sector.

7. Jobs will cure many of the nation's ills.

8. Wedge issues and "ain't it awful" dominate the right wing rhetoric

9. The War on Drugs is a failure

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.
Exactly.
 
So you think "we the people" is tyranny of the majority. There is no basis for the in the Constitution, which you alluded to with "we the people." Don't you like how the 50% plus one overwhelmingly in your case get their healthcare paid for, or at least subsidized, by the rest of us who voted against paying for your healthcare? You may not be a slave to government, but we are, we work for them

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What exactly do you think "promote the general welfare" means, tax cuts for the 1%?

I really don't get you cultists, why do you hate poor people so much? They are americans too you know, just because people like Mitt outsourced their jobs to China they don't deserve healthcare anymore?

:alcoholic:
 
So you think "we the people" is tyranny of the majority. There is no basis for the in the Constitution, which you alluded to with "we the people." Don't you like how the 50% plus one overwhelmingly in your case get their healthcare paid for, or at least subsidized, by the rest of us who voted against paying for your healthcare? You may not be a slave to government, but we are, we work for them

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What exactly do you think "promote the general welfare" means, tax cuts for the 1%?

The general welfare means that everyone benefits from it. So for example the military, everyone is defended by it. Rich or poor. National parks, police, roads, those are all "general" welfare.

Tax redistribution schemes are not "general welfare." Some people benefit at the expense of others. The Federal government has no authority to do that.

As for tax cuts for the 1%, since we earn 20% of income yet pay 40% of taxes, we are already punished. How much more did you have in mind?

I really don't get you cultists, why do you hate poor people so much? They are americans too you know, just because people like Mitt outsourced their jobs to China they don't deserve healthcare anymore?

:alcoholic:

I'm a "cultist" and I "hate poor people" because I don't support a socialist medical system. Dude, you are just stupid
 
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Why do Republicans hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted Gays?
You say we hate women? Why, because we think of them more than just cum catchers?
No, because you think you can tell them what to do with their own bodies.

Freedom for me but not for thee.
Freedom to kill their off spring?
Freedom to follow the law.

You remember rule of law, don't you? I thought you wingnuts "revered" the Constitution.

The USMB Conservatives revere those parts of the Constitution which they interpret to fit nicely into the box of dogma they hold near and dear. Other parts they want to repeal, or to spin to fit their needs.
"Nine unelected judges in robes"

 
Government is a job creator
Of course it is. Services must be carried out by employees. The EPA hires regulators to ensure adherence to the law. The FDA hires inspectors to ensure safe food practices. The FAA hires air traffic controllers to keep planes from flying into each other (I realize you think that's an unnecessary intrusion into pilots' freeeedom to fly wherever they like, but you have a right to be ignorance, I suppose).

Bye bye, you are gone
Pardon me?
 

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