Plan Dalet - Al-Nakba

[Sally]

My, my, Amity thinks she is posting something new. We have heard all about this umpteenth times. Meanwhile, have you been paying attention as to what has gone on and is still going on in the rest of the Middle East, or don't you care that the bodies are piling up.

One thing at a time.

Help with the Israel problem then we can move on to the next problem.

Simple way to help is to inform the Palestinians if they refuse to stop terrorism, violence and belligerence then the UN will send in a task force to escort them all to the Hague were they will face charges of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. Then those found guilty will be sterilised and sent back to wherever their DNA says they originated from.

Evidently, Mr. Tinmore, as a good representative of Hamas, wants everyone to close their eyes to all the innocent people who are being murdered in the rest of the Middle East. Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up, and people such as he is don't seems to care a bit.

 

[Phoenall]

Tut, tut, Mr. Tinmore. You Arabs have your history, and you have Leftists to help you along with it. Meanwhile, I believe that Benny Morris is a very respected man, and he certainly doesn't appear to think highly of this Pappe. By the way, it seems the Arabs are never interested in what their fellow Arabs are doing in the rest of the Middle East. When it comes to their fellow Arabs murdering each other, they appear to be comatose. However, when it comes to Israel and the Jews, they are right there up on step.

Ilan Pappe: "One of the World?s Sloppiest Historians" | New Republic

Here's another brief topic in HOW TO TELL A GOOD SOURCE FROM A BAD SOURCE!

Ilan Pappe's books have been published by Yale University Press, Cambridge University Press, and Oxford UP. That is a sure sign that THE BEST MINDS in his field think he is tops.

Actually it doesn't as university press can be bought for pennies, and will publish any book that is paid for. The majority of their published works are by the likes of Pappe because no other publishing house would bother to waste time paper and ink on such rubbish.

 

[Lipush]

I'm not impressed

 

[Lipush]

Roudy, you really need to revamp your perspective and read a good bit more on both sides.

 

[Phoenall]

Next in my series on Palestinian history:
Deir Yassin

How about the one after being Mohamed and his mental incapacity that manifested as hearing voices and seeing Angels. After all he is the founding father of Palestinian muslim history.

 

[Lipush]

With Amity going on and on like the Energizer Bunny, I have wondered if she was on speed.

There are so many ill-informed Zionists trying to intimidate and overwhelm all dissent, I have to keep up or bullshit will triumph, just by burying reason and goodwill in an avalanche of crap.

So I'll be around....

Next round videos, the life story of Noni Darwish, Amity?

No?

Too bad. I thought you have unbiased views on both sides...

 

[Phoenall]

Oh goody, Amity is going to tell us about the massacre at Deir Yassin in 1929 by her good friends.

Strange, I never heard of that. If you can source that statement somehow, then it needs to be added to the article on Deir Yassin in Wikipedia. And if it is in by the time I write my short article on Deir Yassin on this forum, I will include your info, I promise.

Yet it was written by a professor from the Bir Zeit University, an Arab university now situated in Palestinian Authority territory. This is their words :-


Deir Yassin


Deir Yassin's record of anti-Jewish violence



Some historians later expressed surprise at the choice of Deir Yassin as a target, in view of what they regarded as the village's peaceful history. In fact, Deir Yassin served as a center of weapons trafficking during the violent Palestinian Arab outbreaks in 1920; Deir Yassin residents had carried out violent attacks on the Jews of Givat Shaul in October 1928; and during the August 1929 Arab riots throughout Palestine, the villagers of Deir Yassin had again assaulted their Jewish neighbors in Givat Shaul as well as Jews in the Beit Hakerem neighborhood and the Montefiore Quarter.17 A Jewish fighter who was stationed in Givat Shaul to help defend the village against Arab attacks during the violence 1936 later recalled how



we continually faced attempted forays into our homes from Deir Yassin. We dug out our 'illegal' weapons every night and waited, while the Jewish supplementary police [part of the British Mandate police force] repulsed the infiltrators again and again. Months later, we had a defense position in nearby Motza [and the commander] often asked my help to transport men to their night duties in Motza. Driving back and forth to Motza from Jerusalem, I spent many hours lying in roadside ditches after ambushes out of Deir Yassin.18


In late 1947, as Arab-Jewish hostilities intensified, the Deir Yassin village leadership agreed to an informal truce with their Jewish neighbors, with both sides promising to refrain from attacking each other. Some historians have claimed that Deir Yassin's leaders initially rebuffed a proposal to station Syrian or Iraqi units of the Arab Liberation Army in their village. But by March 1948, there were numerous reports of Arab soldiers taking up positions in Deir Yassin. Haganah driver Arnold Shper testified in a 1952 judicial proceeding that during his posting in Givat Shaul in February and March 1948, he spoke with Haganah intelligence agents who mentioned "that foreign Arabs had been detected in Deir Yassin, [including] Iraqis." Jerusalem Haganah intelligence officer Mordechai Gihon led two reconnaissance sorties into Ein Kerem, adjacent to Deir Yassin, and returned with documents revealing regular contacts between Deir Yassin and the bases of Syrian and Iraqi volunteer soldiers in Ein Kerem. On March 30, Gihon reported to his superiors that "150 men, mostly Iraqis, entered Deir Yassin

During the week prior to the IZL-Lehi action against Deir Yassin, there was a spate of shooting attacks from the village aimed at Jewish targets in the area. On Friday night, April 2, gunfire from the Deir Yassin area raked the adjacent Jewish neighborhoods of Beit Hakerem and Bayit Vegan.21 On Sunday, April 4, commander Shaltiel received an urgent message from the intelligence officer of the Haganah's Etzioni division: "There's a gathering in Deir Yassin. Armed men left [from Deir Yassin] in the direction of [the nearby town of] lower Motza, northwest of Givat Shaul. They are shooting at passing cars

 

[Phoenall]

If its a good film, that is all I can care about really. I can't vet everyone on the production staff.

You can look at the source and see that it is biased in the extreme, and as such is not a valid piece of evidence.

 

[Phoenall]

Why can't Muslims continue murdering and massacring non Muslims, without any consequences? Not fair!

You should get over your obsession with Muslim this and Muslim that, Roudy, you are coming off as a bigot.

Hardly seeing as it is you that is the bigot. Roudy is posting facts and the truth regarding Islamic violence, bloodshed, murder and rape

 

[Phoenall]

Roudy, for gosh sake take the meds.

ISLAMONAZI RULE 13 if you cant defeat the argument imply that your opponent is ill and need medication to function

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, why not tell us what the guy teaches, Amity? He wouldn't be biased now, would he?

I think I will go with what Benny Morris says than some Leftist Jews.

He is a history professor, obviously.

You can 'go' with whoever you want, but if you want to preserve your credibility then you need to deal with what Ilan Pappe and so many others are saying.

As in his predilection for re-writing history of Palestine to give a biased view of the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

Next in my series on Palestinian history:
Deir Yassin

Next in my series on Palestinian history, Palestinian 9-11 dancers perform in a sell out crowd in Ramallah and Gaza:

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU]Palestinians Celebrating 9/11 Attack - YouTube[/ame]

Cool. Then you can source that video with the time and date.

The time is not EST by the way, it is local time.

 

[Kondor3]

With Amity going on and on like the Energizer Bunny, I have wondered if she was on speed.

There are so many ill-informed Zionists trying to intimidate and overwhelm all dissent, I have to keep up or bullshit will triumph, just by burying reason and goodwill in an avalanche of crap.

So I'll be around....

Next round videos, the life story of Noni Darwish, Amity?

No?

Too bad. I thought you have unbiased views on both sides...

A sound-byte from Noni's views on Islam, as expressed in the obligatory Wiki...

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Views on Islam

Darwish believes Islam is an authoritarian ideology that is attempting to impose on the world the norms of seventh-century culture of the Arabian Peninsula. She writes that Islam is a "sinister force" that must be resisted and contained. She remarks that it is hard to "comprehend that an entire religion and its culture believes God orders the killing of unbelievers." She claims that Islam and Sharia form a retrograde ideology that adds greatly to the world's stock of misery.[13]

She claims the Qur'an is a text that is "violent, incendiary, and disrespectful" and says that barbarities such as brutalization of women, the persecution of homosexuals, honor killings, the beheading of apostates and the stoning of adulterers come directly out of the Qur'an.

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Nonie Darwish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Never heard of her, but I like her already...

 

[Lipush]

Look for her lectures, she's an amazing lady.

 

[SAYIT]

Yeah, why not tell us what the guy teaches, Amity? He wouldn't be biased now, would he?

I think I will go with what Benny Morris says than some Leftist Jews.

He is a history professor, obviously.

You can 'go' with whoever you want, but if you want to preserve your credibility then you need to deal with what Ilan Pappe and so many others are saying.

Pappe is a dyed-in-the-wool socialist who, like so many of his kind, became disillusioned with Israel as it transitioned from a kibbutz economy to a capitalist one. Trained by Arab historian Albert Hourani at Oxford he left his place of birth and relocated to England.

 

[SAYIT]

Yeah, why not tell us what the guy teaches, Amity? He wouldn't be biased now, would he?

I think I will go with what Benny Morris says than some Leftist Jews.

He is a history professor, obviously.

You can 'go' with whoever you want, but if you want to preserve your credibility then you need to deal with what Ilan Pappe and so many others are saying.

Dealing with what Ilan Pappe says is NOT a criteria for creating nor maintaining credibility, in the context of discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Ilan Pappe is a fifth-columnnist and traitor to Israel, who recently packed-up his bags, left the University of Haifa, and fled to the U.K., to take-up residence there, and to teach at the University of Exeter, where he collaborates with a small nucleus of other like-minded academicians, to try to make trouble for Israel, and to advance the Palestinian cause, whenever possible.

There are few people more despised than a member of a long-suffering community who goes over to the enemy.

That is the fate of Ilan Pappe.

He was wise to leave when he did.

Otherwise, he might very well have been pushing-up daisies by now.

I would hope Israel still has room for confused leftists.

 

[Lipush]

There are just too many of 'em

 

[Roudy]

Next in my series on Palestinian history:
Deir Yassin

Next in my series on Palestinian history, Palestinian 9-11 dancers perform in a sell out crowd in Ramallah and Gaza:

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU]Palestinians Celebrating 9/11 Attack - YouTube[/ame]

Cool. Then you can source that video with the time and date.

Oh ya sure. That's a fake video, is that what you're proposing? Keep dreaming.

Palestinians celebrated over dead Americans, face the reality. Heck, even Muslims living in America celebrated, and many still do.

 

[Roudy]

He is a history professor, obviously.

You can 'go' with whoever you want, but if you want to preserve your credibility then you need to deal with what Ilan Pappe and so many others are saying.

Dealing with what Ilan Pappe says is NOT a criteria for creating nor maintaining credibility, in the context of discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Ilan Pappe is a fifth-columnnist and traitor to Israel, who recently packed-up his bags, left the University of Haifa, and fled to the U.K., to take-up residence there, and to teach at the University of Exeter, where he collaborates with a small nucleus of other like-minded academicians, to try to make trouble for Israel, and to advance the Palestinian cause, whenever possible.

There are few people more despised than a member of a long-suffering community who goes over to the enemy.

That is the fate of Ilan Pappe.

He was wise to leave when he did.

Otherwise, he might very well have been pushing-up daisies by now.

I would hope Israel still has room for confused leftists.

There's always room for them in Gaza. They should feel right at home over there. LOL

 

[Sally]

Dealing with what Ilan Pappe says is NOT a criteria for creating nor maintaining credibility, in the context of discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Ilan Pappe is a fifth-columnnist and traitor to Israel, who recently packed-up his bags, left the University of Haifa, and fled to the U.K., to take-up residence there, and to teach at the University of Exeter, where he collaborates with a small nucleus of other like-minded academicians, to try to make trouble for Israel, and to advance the Palestinian cause, whenever possible.

There are few people more despised than a member of a long-suffering community who goes over to the enemy.

That is the fate of Ilan Pappe.

He was wise to leave when he did.

Otherwise, he might very well have been pushing-up daisies by now.

I would hope Israel still has room for confused leftists.

There's always room for them in Gaza. They should feel right at home over there. LOL

With regard to Leftists, I thought this was an interesting piece.

With friends like the left wing, Israel doesn?t need enemies | i24news - See beyond