Plan Dalet - Al-Nakba

[amity1844]

Plan Dalet was a strategy paper of the Haganah, the largest Zionist paramilitary group, for assuming control of Palestine following the end of British control in 1948. Its implementation has become known among Palestinians as "Al-Nakba" the catastrophe.

Under the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine the territory of Palestine was to be divided into a Jewish state and an Arab state according to the majority population in each area.

According to part 4 of the plan, aims included:

Mounting operations against enemy population centers located inside or near our defensive system in order to prevent them from being used as bases by an active armed force. These operations can be divided into the following categories:
Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously.
Mounting search and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the village and conducting a search inside it. In the event of resistance, the armed force must be destroyed and the population must be expelled outside the borders of the state.

So it appears that the intention of Plan Dalet was a deliberate grab of as much as possible of the territory and institutions alloted to the Arab state under the UN plan.

According to Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Plan Dalet was "a blueprint for ethnic cleansing." Pappe states that the general section of the plan, which was distributed to politicians, was misguiding as to the real intentions of the Haganah. The real plan was handed down to the brigade commanders

"not as vague guidelines, but as clear-cut operational orders for action"..... "each brigade commander received a list of the villages or neighborhoods that had to be occupied, destroyed, and their inhabitants expelled".

Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Exeter University. He has written extensively on Zionism and Palestine. Here he lectures on Al-Nakba, the Catastrophe.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go]Ilan Pappe on "The Nakba of Palestine" - YouTube[/ame][ame="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go"]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go[/ame]

 

[Sally]

Plan Dalet was a strategy paper of the Haganah, the largest Zionist paramilitary group, for assuming control of Palestine following the end of British control in 1948. Its implementation has become known among Palestinians as "Al-Nakba" the catastrophe.

Under the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine the territory of Palestine was to be divided into a Jewish state and an Arab state according to the majority population in each area.

According to part 4 of the plan, aims included:

Mounting operations against enemy population centers located inside or near our defensive system in order to prevent them from being used as bases by an active armed force. These operations can be divided into the following categories:
Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously.
Mounting search and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the village and conducting a search inside it. In the event of resistance, the armed force must be destroyed and the population must be expelled outside the borders of the state.

So it appears that the intention of Plan Dalet was a deliberate grab of as much as possible of the territory and institutions alloted to the Arab state under the UN plan.

According to Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Plan Dalet was "a blueprint for ethnic cleansing." Pappe states that the general section of the plan, which was distributed to politicians, was misguiding as to the real intentions of the Haganah. The real plan was handed down to the brigade commanders

"not as vague guidelines, but as clear-cut operational orders for action"..... "each brigade commander received a list of the villages or neighborhoods that had to be occupied, destroyed, and their inhabitants expelled".

Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Exeter University. He has written extensively on Zionism and Palestine. Here he lectures on Al-Nakba, the Catastrophe.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go]Ilan Pappe on "The Nakba of Palestine" - YouTube[/ame][ame="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go"]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go[/ame]

My, my, Amity thinks she is posting something new. We have heard all about this umpteenth times. Meanwhile, have you been paying attention as to what has gone on and is still going on in the rest of the Middle East, or don't you care that the bodies are piling up.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Plan Dalet was a strategy paper of the Haganah, the largest Zionist paramilitary group, for assuming control of Palestine following the end of British control in 1948. Its implementation has become known among Palestinians as "Al-Nakba" the catastrophe.

Under the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine the territory of Palestine was to be divided into a Jewish state and an Arab state according to the majority population in each area.

According to part 4 of the plan, aims included:

Mounting operations against enemy population centers located inside or near our defensive system in order to prevent them from being used as bases by an active armed force. These operations can be divided into the following categories:
Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously.
Mounting search and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the village and conducting a search inside it. In the event of resistance, the armed force must be destroyed and the population must be expelled outside the borders of the state.

So it appears that the intention of Plan Dalet was a deliberate grab of as much as possible of the territory and institutions alloted to the Arab state under the UN plan.

According to Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Plan Dalet was "a blueprint for ethnic cleansing." Pappe states that the general section of the plan, which was distributed to politicians, was misguiding as to the real intentions of the Haganah. The real plan was handed down to the brigade commanders

"not as vague guidelines, but as clear-cut operational orders for action"..... "each brigade commander received a list of the villages or neighborhoods that had to be occupied, destroyed, and their inhabitants expelled".

Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Exeter University. He has written extensively on Zionism and Palestine. Here he lectures on Al-Nakba, the Catastrophe.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go]Ilan Pappe on "The Nakba of Palestine" - YouTube[/ame][ame="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go"]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go[/ame]

My, my, Amity thinks she is posting something new. We have heard all about this umpteenth times. Meanwhile, have you been paying attention as to what has gone on and is still going on in the rest of the Middle East, or don't you care that the bodies are piling up.

One thing at a time.

Help with the Israel problem then we can move on to the next problem.

 

[Sally]

Plan Dalet was a strategy paper of the Haganah, the largest Zionist paramilitary group, for assuming control of Palestine following the end of British control in 1948. Its implementation has become known among Palestinians as "Al-Nakba" the catastrophe.

Under the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine the territory of Palestine was to be divided into a Jewish state and an Arab state according to the majority population in each area.

According to part 4 of the plan, aims included:


So it appears that the intention of Plan Dalet was a deliberate grab of as much as possible of the territory and institutions alloted to the Arab state under the UN plan.

According to Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Plan Dalet was "a blueprint for ethnic cleansing." Pappe states that the general section of the plan, which was distributed to politicians, was misguiding as to the real intentions of the Haganah. The real plan was handed down to the brigade commanders

Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Exeter University. He has written extensively on Zionism and Palestine. Here he lectures on Al-Nakba, the Catastrophe.

Ilan Pappe on "The Nakba of Palestine" - YouTubehttp://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go

My, my, Amity thinks she is posting something new. We have heard all about this umpteenth times. Meanwhile, have you been paying attention as to what has gone on and is still going on in the rest of the Middle East, or don't you care that the bodies are piling up.

One thing at a time.

Help with the Israel problem then we can move on to the next problem.

Tut, tut, Mr. Tinmore. You Arabs have your history, and you have Leftists to help you along with it. Meanwhile, I believe that Benny Morris is a very respected man, and he certainly doesn't appear to think highly of this Pappe. By the way, it seems the Arabs are never interested in what their fellow Arabs are doing in the rest of the Middle East. When it comes to their fellow Arabs murdering each other, they appear to be comatose. However, when it comes to Israel and the Jews, they are right there up on step.

Ilan Pappe: "One of the World?s Sloppiest Historians" | New Republic

 

[proudveteran06]

Plan Dalet was a strategy paper of the Haganah, the largest Zionist paramilitary group, for assuming control of Palestine following the end of British control in 1948. Its implementation has become known among Palestinians as "Al-Nakba" the catastrophe.

Under the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine the territory of Palestine was to be divided into a Jewish state and an Arab state according to the majority population in each area.

According to part 4 of the plan, aims included:


So it appears that the intention of Plan Dalet was a deliberate grab of as much as possible of the territory and institutions alloted to the Arab state under the UN plan.

According to Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Plan Dalet was "a blueprint for ethnic cleansing." Pappe states that the general section of the plan, which was distributed to politicians, was misguiding as to the real intentions of the Haganah. The real plan was handed down to the brigade commanders

Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Exeter University. He has written extensively on Zionism and Palestine. Here he lectures on Al-Nakba, the Catastrophe.

Ilan Pappe on "The Nakba of Palestine" - YouTubehttp://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDh-jTa3Go

My, my, Amity thinks she is posting something new. We have heard all about this umpteenth times. Meanwhile, have you been paying attention as to what has gone on and is still going on in the rest of the Middle East, or don't you care that the bodies are piling up.

One thing at a time.

Help with the Israel problem then we can move on to the next problem.

Translation; The Saudi " piece plan" ( I mean Peace) which has to do with the anneliation of Israel and its annex to " Palestine" That will never happen.

 

[amity1844]

Tut, tut, Mr. Tinmore. You Arabs have your history, and you have Leftists to help you along with it. Meanwhile, I believe that Benny Morris is a very respected man, and he certainly doesn't appear to think highly of this Pappe. By the way, it seems the Arabs are never interested in what their fellow Arabs are doing in the rest of the Middle East. When it comes to their fellow Arabs murdering each other, they appear to be comatose. However, when it comes to Israel and the Jews, they are right there up on step.

Ilan Pappe: "One of the World?s Sloppiest Historians" | New Republic

Here's another brief topic in HOW TO TELL A GOOD SOURCE FROM A BAD SOURCE!

Ilan Pappe's books have been published by Yale University Press, Cambridge University Press, and Oxford UP. That is a sure sign that THE BEST MINDS in his field think he is tops.

 

[amity1844]

Next in my series on Palestinian history:
Deir Yassin

 

[Roudy]

Haganah was created to defend Jews after Muslim animals massacred and ethnically cleansed the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929. It all began with that.

Why can't Muslims continue murdering and massacring non Muslims, without any consequences? Not fair!

Let's hear it from the horses mouth:

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=z5CVISBUNUA"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=z5CVISBUNUA[/ame]

 

[Sally]

Next in my series on Palestinian history:
Deir Yassin

Oh goody, Amity is going to tell us about the massacre at Deir Yassin in 1929 by her good friends.

 

[Sally]

Tut, tut, Mr. Tinmore. You Arabs have your history, and you have Leftists to help you along with it. Meanwhile, I believe that Benny Morris is a very respected man, and he certainly doesn't appear to think highly of this Pappe. By the way, it seems the Arabs are never interested in what their fellow Arabs are doing in the rest of the Middle East. When it comes to their fellow Arabs murdering each other, they appear to be comatose. However, when it comes to Israel and the Jews, they are right there up on step.

Ilan Pappe: "One of the World?s Sloppiest Historians" | New Republic

Here's another brief topic in HOW TO TELL A GOOD SOURCE FROM A BAD SOURCE!

Ilan Pappe's books have been published by Yale University Press, Cambridge University Press, and Oxford UP. That is a sure sign that THE BEST MINDS in his field think he is tops.

Yeah, why not tell us what the guy teaches, Amity? He wouldn't be biased now, would he?

I think I will go with what Benny Morris says than some Leftist Jews.

 

[amity1844]

Roudy, you really need to revamp your perspective and read a good bit more on both sides.

 

[Kondor3]

But of COURSE the Jews were interested in grabbing as much land as possible, as early as possible.

This is how they established themselves.

This is how they won.

This is how you lost.

Next slide, please.

The Jews have had their asses kicked from one end of the Western World and the Middle East to the other, over the past 2000 years, by most of the peoples that they have come into contact with.

The Holocaust inflicted upon the Jews of Europe in the 1930s and 1940s - in which they lost 6,000,000 men, women and children, makes The Nakba look like a Sunday-school picnic or walk in the park, by comparison.

Want to see REAL suffering? Look at old film footage of the Holocaust. You'll sing Love Songs about the Palestinian Condition, by comparison.

The weight of an elephant (the amount of suffering experienced by the Jew) versus the weight of a sand-flea (the amount of suffering experienced by Muslim-Palestinians) - either within living memory, or spanning the past 2000 years.

The Holocaust DID have ONE positive outcome, anyway.

It helped the Jews find their identity again, as a People, and, more importantly, helped them to find their courage again, to make a home for themselves again for the first time in 2000 years, and to hold it against all comers.

It also taught them not to trust the outside world.

Not the kind of mistrust (and resulting closed society) that they manifested for centuries since the Diaspora.

But the kind of mistrust that an entire gathered People can manifest as a Nation-State.

The Jews know that, in the final analysis, they can count on no one but themselves.

And they know that they must have enough contiguous land to create and sustain a nation state, and defensible borders by which to secure that homeland against the hostility of neighbors.

They have been working towards a Reconquista of their old Homeland for 66 years now, and, given their circumstances, have been utilizing a logical and intelligent approach, and are now very close to completing that Reconquista.

The Muslims are simply pissed because - for the first time in 1300 years - they've been out-thought and out-fought and generally out-classed by the Jews, whom they've looked down upon as Dhimmis for most of those 1300 years.

So the Muslims and their myopic, naive supporters and useful idiots, ***** and moan about how unfair the Jews have been, in seizing land, and in their dealings with those mad-dog, false-dealing Muslim Palestinians.

Tough.

Welcome to your new Reality.

 

[amity1844]

Oh goody, Amity is going to tell us about the massacre at Deir Yassin in 1929 by her good friends.

Strange, I never heard of that. If you can source that statement somehow, then it needs to be added to the article on Deir Yassin in Wikipedia. And if it is in by the time I write my short article on Deir Yassin on this forum, I will include your info, I promise.

 

[SAYIT]

Roudy, you really need to revamp your perspective and read a good bit more on both sides.

You mean like you do?

 

[Roudy]

Roudy, you really need to revamp your perspective and read a good bit more on both sides.

You really need to stop spouting Islamist propaganda and lies. Nothing you have said so far has a shred of truth or historical accuracy in it.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy, you really need to revamp your perspective and read a good bit more on both sides.

You mean like you do?

Yeah well, you see, a person who is objective and well informed, posts video clips made by KKK racists as "truth". Ha ha ha

 

[amity1844]

If its a good film, that is all I can care about really. I can't vet everyone on the production staff.

 

[amity1844]

Why can't Muslims continue murdering and massacring non Muslims, without any consequences? Not fair!

You should get over your obsession with Muslim this and Muslim that, Roudy, you are coming off as a bigot.

 

[Roudy]

If its a good film, that is all I can care about really. I can't vet everyone on the production staff.

Well of course you would consider a film made by a Neo Nazi / IslamoNazi / KKK racist and liar, a "good film." I'm not doubting that for a second. Ha ha ha.

 

[Sally]

Oh goody, Amity is going to tell us about the massacre at Deir Yassin in 1929 by her good friends.

Strange, I never heard of that. If you can source that statement somehow, then it needs to be added to the article on Deir Yassin in Wikipedia. And if it is in by the time I write my short article on Deir Yassin on this forum, I will include your info, I promise.

You mean the 1929 massacre is not mentioned in the Wikipedia page you went to? I can see why a teacher in the Los Angeles area says she never lets her students use Wikipedia as a source. She wants them to use regular encyclopedia where people don't put in what they wish to as is done in Wkipedia. I am sure that a smart woman like Amity wants us to believe she is can research the massacre which her friends were involved with, and she can also research how the Arabs said that they lied about the Deir Yassin incident which occurred in later years.