Pistol, rifle or shotgun for home defense.....by former Delta Force legend.

[Scoutster]

When I lived in a bad part of town, I had a Mossburg 12-gauge pump action shotgun that held 6 rounds. I alternated slugs with buckshot. That fucker would stop the Terminator.

Mossberg‘s are great shotguns. I have a few, I have a lot of firearms. I started hunting when I was five I inherited all my father‘s and both my grandfather’s and between those and my gifts growing up and I continued to buy more every year when I got to 18. I’m good to go. My favorite is the camo 500 Mossberg for duck/bird hunting. Pumps are more reliable then autos, I have a number of autos but can run into problems with jamming, depending on the ammunition and gun manufacturer.

 

[The Duke]

No offense, but his experience is in breaking into a house rather than defending it. He does know guns though. IMHO, it's gotta depend on the situation; how big is the home, it is a manufactured one or maybe brick or concrete blocks and how capable is the homeowner/shooter. Can he/she hit the broadside of a barn or not? I am moving into a mobile home soon, not sure that I want to keep my AR-15 cuz I might shoot somebody in the home next to me. And the idea of firing a shotgun could do a lot of damage but would very likely scare the living shit out of an intruder(s). Me, I practice with my handguns and trust myself to hit what I'm aiming at in close quarters, so I'm good with what I've got.

9mm ball will go through 2-3 human beings easy.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Mossberg‘s are great shotguns. I have a few, I have a lot of firearms. I started hunting when I was five I inherited all my father‘s and both my grandfather’s and between those and my gifts growing up and I continued to buy more every year when I got to 18. I’m good to go. My favorite is the camo 500 Mossberg for duck/bird hunting. Pumps are more reliable then autos, I have a number of autos but can run into problems with jamming, depending on the ammunition and gun manufacturer.

Agreed. Mossburgs are a well-made affordable shotgun that is reliable. I got my 12-gauge pump action at a gun show for around $250 bucks. I eventually bought the fold out stock as an add on.

I would say my favorite gun, however, is a Smith & Wesson .41 Mag. Kind of a rare gun that is a beauty. Technically between a .357 mag and a .44 Mag, but much closer to the .44 mag. It will stop a grizzly bear dead in its tracks. Kind of heavy, but perfect for hunting in dense brush where a rifle or shotgun is not practical.

 

[Scoutster]

Agreed. Mossburgs are a well-made affordable shotgun that is reliable. I got my 12-gauge pump action at a gun show for around $250 bucks. I eventually bought the fold out stock as an add on.

I would say my favorite gun, however, is a Smith & Wesson .41 Mag. Kind of a rare gun that is a beauty. Technically between a .357 mag and a .44 Mag, but much closer to the .44 mag. It will stop a grizzly bear dead in its tracks. Kind of heavy, but perfect for hunting in dense brush where a rifle or shotgun is not practical.

41 cal is a great cartridge. I traded one similar for a Ruger 454 Casull snub years ago. It seemed like a good idea at the time I went thru wheel once and I thought I “broke” my wrist and I decided it was time to put it away I was all on board when they were selling it as the great bear defender if you were an outdoorsman. I went back to my 357 snub as a carry in the woods

 

[task0778]

I went back to my 357 snub as a carry in the woods

I dunno man, if you need a .357 in the woods, maybe it shouldn't be a snubbie. Maybe a little too easy to miss that 1st shot and if the threat is big enough to where you need a .357 then you might not get a 2nd shot off. The kick on that thing is not insignificant, for me anyway.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I dunno man, if you need a .357 in the woods, maybe it shouldn't be a snubbie. Maybe a little too easy to miss that 1st shot and if the threat is big enough to where you need a .357 then you might not get a 2nd shot off. The kick on that thing is not insignificant, for me anyway.

S'right.
Double-stack 10mm. If you miss with the first, you have 15-16 more.

 

[Scoutster]

S'right.
Double-stack 10mm. If you miss with the first, you have 15-16 more.

10 is a good cal, I have one. I’m not much of a fan on European MM bullshit so I minimize that in my arsenal I like good old fashion English measurement scales

 

[M14 Shooter]

10 is a good cal, I have one. I’m not much of a fan on European MM bullshit so I minimize that in my arsenal I like good old fashion English measurement scales

Just call it 40 magnum.

 

[Scoutster]

Just call it 40 magnum.

 

[Scoutster]

Just call it 40 magnum.

I picked up a 375 H&H mag pre 70 for 300 bucks 15 odd years ago. He put it on craigslist when they still did that, his father had died and was selling estate. That is where I got my Ruger 44 Vaquero as well. I jumped on it. I met him and he said his father bought it to go elk hunting in Colorado went to range once and decided never to fire it again back in day. He asked me what I’d offer for it, he should’ve researched the gun got it for a steal. She kicks like a mule. But I have a few British round rifles that are bigger that kick harder.

 

[Scoutster]

I love my 404 Jeffrey. I did not get that for a steal. I had to work hard for that and pay a lot to find a vintage in mint condition. The last item on my list at this point in my life, I think is a mint M1 carbine that is stamped Saginaw Steering. I am from Detroit Michigan. I’ve been to the GM Saginaw plant. My father worked there and so did one of my uncles. I have two engineering degrees. I built my own firearms multiple times just like two of my motorcycles.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Just a suggestion, I know it scrambles the minds of Americans, why not try reasonable force?

Do you find that concept alien?

I prefer overwhelming force.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I prefer overwhelming force.

As you should - there's no reason to give your assailant a fair chance.

 

[Scoutster]

As you should - there's no reason to give your assailant a fair chance.

 

[Oddball]

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What a faggot looks like.

 

[Oddball]

Shotgun....Short barrel Mossie 500 riot gun...If raking it doesn't make the intruder beat ass out of the abode, the BB shot will make them wish they had.

 

[MarathonMike]

An old 7 iron that I don't care if it gets messed up.

 

[task0778]

An old 7 iron that I don't care if it gets messed up.

I'm too old to hurt anybody with my 7-iron, and I never could hit that thing worth a damn anyway. If they get close enough to hit with a golf club then I'm pretty much fucked. I think I'll stick with my 9mm Smith&Wesson, 16 shot semi and shoot the bastards.

 

[Scoutster]

An old 7 iron that I don't care if it gets messed up.

There is truth to that I have a many firearms. Inherited all my grandfather’s and my dad‘s. Plus gifts to me as I was growing up and then I bought about 1-2 year for the last 30 odd years. Some I’ve never fired because they’re old and worth a lot of money, some I’ve never fired because they’re too pretty. My favorite two shotguns for bird hunting are my Mossberg 500 camo turkey gun and old 870 I was given as a child, they have their battle scars. Slowly handing them off to my children and my new grandson.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I prefer overwhelming force.

Changing behaviours and attitudes is possible, America just needs that with guns.

In the 1940's, over 44% of Americans smoked, changing the public's behaviours and attitudes means that's down to 12%. Some 80 years.

In 1982, 11% of drivers wore a seatbelt, changing the public's behaviours and attitudes means that's risen to 92%. Some 40 years.

So you can see that it takes many decades, over 2 or 3 generations. So if the US government started on the path towards a safe gun culture and it took some 40 or 80 years+, if not longer, I don't think anyone on here would live long enough to see any changes, yet they're all up in arms with gun safety. Bizarre.