Photo-Framer Denied Freedom To Operate....

[NYcarbineer]

Sue the company. End of story.

Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.

Why the double standard?

When was I opposed to gays suing businesses who wouldn't serve them?

Oh bullshit, and you know it. You're fine with the guy in the OP having to resort to a lawsuit, but the collectivist homosexuals? No, they get the full force of the federal government behind them.

Fucking hypocrite.

Sue the company. End of story.

Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.

Why the double standard?

Don't lie about what I've done or said.

Then call me out by stating it clearly. I will concede if you maintain a modicum of consistency here. Should the government force this guy to serve the conservative exactly as they did for the homosexual. Yes or no?

First, you apologize for baselessly labeling me a hypocrite.

 

[bripat9643]

Business has a right to such decisions unless the state's PA laws say otherwise.

In other words, they don't have that right.

Once again, you only prove you don't know what a "right" is. You're a Stalinist douche bag, Fakey.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Don't see the BFD PoliSpice.

"To see the enemy where he doesn't exist is cowardice," someone once said.

What you have to note here is what I'd call the 'pre-assignment' of opinions to people like myself, aka liberals, IOW

the OP and others such as eflat assign us the opinion that we oppose one sort of discrimination and support the other,
and by that they manufacture out of thin air what they believe is their justification for labeling us hypocrites.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Business has a right to such decisions unless the state's PA laws say otherwise.

In other words, they don't have that right.

Once again, you only prove you don't know what a "right" is. You're a Stalinist douche bag, Fakey.

You believe in the 'right' of a diner to refuse to serve and kick out black customers.

 

[bripat9643]

Business has a right to such decisions unless the state's PA laws say otherwise.

In other words, they don't have that right.

Once again, you only prove you don't know what a "right" is. You're a Stalinist douche bag, Fakey.

You believe in the 'right' of a diner to refuse to serve and kick out black customers.

Yes, actually I do. However, the only time blacks were ever denied service is when Southern Democrats mandated it by law.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Business has a right to such decisions unless the state's PA laws say otherwise.

In other words, they don't have that right.

Once again, you only prove you don't know what a "right" is. You're a Stalinist douche bag, Fakey.

You believe in the 'right' of a diner to refuse to serve and kick out black customers.

Yes, actually I do. However, the only time blacks were ever denied service is when Southern Democrats mandated it by law.

Wrong. It was not universally mandated. It was however ALLOWED by law.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The funny part of this, again, is that most conservatives would like Suitable for Framing to be able to discriminate like this.

And, PS, maybe we should all wait to hear the true story here, which might very well be different than the RW version,

given the Right's history of lying.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.

 

[NYcarbineer]

In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.

Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?

 

[bodecea]

....as they see fit!

This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!

When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....

They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!

The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!


They were taken to court....

...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!

....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"


Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???


OH...WAIT!!!!

I made a tiny little mistake.


The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”



"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.

However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.

Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.

“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”

In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo




"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook

Did....you...know...that...political...affiliation....is....not...covered....by....state....P.....A....laws?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.

Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?

 

[eflatminor]

Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.

Why the double standard?

When was I opposed to gays suing businesses who wouldn't serve them?

Oh bullshit, and you know it. You're fine with the guy in the OP having to resort to a lawsuit, but the collectivist homosexuals? No, they get the full force of the federal government behind them.

Fucking hypocrite.

You're pathetic. Lawsuits are subject to the law dumbass.

Which has nothing to do with the point. Do you or do you not believe the federal government should intervene in this case EXACTLY AS THEY DID with the homosexuals denied service? Yes or no?

We all know the answer, so once again, fucking hypocrite.

Lawsuits have nothing to do with the law? lol Goddam that's funny.

Thanks once again for proving beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a troll and a hypocrite.

Or, you really do not understand the difference between a federal law and a simple lawsuit, which makes you dumb as a rock. Either way, not good.

Seriously, thank you.

 

[eflatminor]

Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.

Why the double standard?

When was I opposed to gays suing businesses who wouldn't serve them?

Oh bullshit, and you know it. You're fine with the guy in the OP having to resort to a lawsuit, but the collectivist homosexuals? No, they get the full force of the federal government behind them.

Fucking hypocrite.

Sue the company. End of story.

Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.

Why the double standard?

Don't lie about what I've done or said.

Then call me out by stating it clearly. I will concede if you maintain a modicum of consistency here. Should the government force this guy to serve the conservative exactly as they did for the homosexual. Yes or no?

First, you apologize for baselessly labeling me a hypocrite.

Prove you're not and I will.

Not holding my breath on this one!

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

I live around 100 miles from Aspen, and used to deliver groceries there with a big truck. I've also been there many other time while working for another company. What I have come to learn is that Aspen is a Liberal Mecca. Finding a Conservative there is like accidentally finding a diamond in a turd pile.

As for putting Suitable For Framing, it will be nearly impossible to force them out of business precisely because it it IS in a Liberal Bastion. Because of that their business might actually get a bump.

On the lawsuit, I am going to have to agree with NYCarbineer (something I am wont to do under normal circumstances) that no laws were broken.. Katie, as a "white conservative", this sign

happens to apply to her, except for her gender, and it would be fairly easy for the business to prove they did not deny her service because of her sex.

We can hate what Suitable For Framing did, but there's really nothing that can be done about it. It's just another example of the Left's hypocrisy and intolerance. Those same things they rail against the Right about.

 

[hazlnut]

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

― George Orwell, Animal Farm

Yes, the the framer should learn this -- Christianity is not any more special than any other religion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

....as they see fit!

This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!

When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....

They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!

The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!


They were taken to court....

...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!

....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"


Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???


OH...WAIT!!!!

I made a tiny little mistake.


The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”



"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.

However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.

Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.

“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”

In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo




"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook

Did....you...know...that...political...affiliation....is....not...covered....by....state....P.....A....laws?

Thank you for the Fascist response.....but I covered that in the OP.

You totalitarians oppose free will, free speech, freedom of conscience, and smooth it over with government coercion.....that's called 'oppression.'



I strongly suggest a course in the meaning of liberty, if it is not too late for you.

1. Before our maxim was 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," John Locke stated that one of the foundation stones of the classical liberal notion of private property as a natural right which all individuals have.


Now....let's see where you fit in:

2. Karl Marx's maxim, “Abolish all private property.”

3. "....private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian



Is there even the slightest chance that you will understand that entrepreneurs should have the ability not to deal with you, for any reason?

No?

Then you will remain a Democrat subject.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I live around 100 miles from Aspen, and used to deliver groceries there with a big truck. I've also been there many other time while working for another company. What I have come to learn is that Aspen is a Liberal Mecca. Finding a Conservative there is like accidentally finding a diamond in a turd pile.

As for putting Suitable For Framing, it will be nearly impossible to force them out of business precisely because it it IS in a Liberal Bastion. Because of that their business might actually get a bump.

On the lawsuit, I am going to have to agree with NYCarbineer (something I am wont to do under normal circumstances). Katie, as a "white conservative", this sign

happens to apply to her, except for her gender, and it would be fairly easy for the business to prove they did not deny her service because of her sex.

We can hate what Suitable For Framing did, but there's really nothing that can be done about it. It's just another example of the Left's hypocrisy and intolerance.

What you say about Aspen is clear and evident.

But also....be very clear.....conservatives have no intention of driving them out of business.

 

[NYcarbineer]

In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.

Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?

It wasn't a strawman. It was a question. If this wasn't USMB, I'd assume your answer is 'no'.

 

[PoliticalChic]

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

― George Orwell, Animal Farm

Yes, the the framer should learn this -- Christianity is not any more special than any other religion.

Did you imagine (I almost said 'think') that that post made any sense????


I'm guessing that you use a shopping cart at the liquor store.

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

You believe in the 'right' of a diner to refuse to serve and kick out black customers.

If that Black person is disrupting the business, absolutely I do.