Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

[shockedcanadian]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney

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Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

 

[Polishprince]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

Maybe the City can replace the destroyed statue of Columbus with a statue of San Rocco who is held Tremendous regard by the Italian community?

Or perhaps a statue of Gabe Possenti, a 19th Century Italian celebrated as the patron saint of handguns because of his courage during a time of political upheaval in Italy.

St. Gabriel Possenti Feast Day Commemorated by Gun Saint Society

The St. Gabriel Possenti Society commemorates the Feb. 27 Feast Day of St. Gabriel Possenti on Monday," Society chairman John M. Snyder noted here today.

www.ammoland.com

 

[martybegan]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

At least they are trying to follow procedure, but they are still wrong.

Where does it end?

And if they think this will appease the mob, they are sorely mistaken.

 

[Hellbilly]

This might have something to do with it.

Like many European explorers, Christopher Columbus encountered indigenous people throughout his voyages. There are three main sources of controversy involving his interactions with the indigenous people he labeled “Indians”: the use of violence and slavery, the forced conversion of native peoples to Christianity and the introduction of a host of new diseases that would have dramatic long-term effects on native people in the Americas.

In an era in which the international slave trade was starting to grow, Columbus and his men enslaved many native inhabitants of the West Indies and subjected them to extreme violence and brutality. On his famous first voyage in 1492, Columbus landed on an unknown Caribbean island after an arduous three-month journey.

On his first day in the New World, he ordered six of the natives to be seized, writing in his journal that he believed they would be good servants. Throughout his years in the New World, Columbus enacted policies of forced labor in which natives were put to work for the sake of profits. Later, Columbus sent thousands of peaceful Taino “Indians” from the island of Hispaniola to Spain to be sold. Many died en route.

In addition to the controversy over enslavement and violent rule, the “Age of Exploration” that Columbus helped lead had the additional consequence of bringing new diseases to the New World which would, over time, devastate the native populations of many New World islands and communities.

He brought slavery and disease with him. He was a monster.

 

[toobfreak]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

Too funny. Tearing down statues of one of the great explorers who was taught about as an important figure in our history books which we have a national holiday named after. And we were worried about a virus.

 

[martybegan]

This might have something to do with it.

Like many European explorers, Christopher Columbus encountered indigenous people throughout his voyages. There are three main sources of controversy involving his interactions with the indigenous people he labeled “Indians”: the use of violence and slavery, the forced conversion of native peoples to Christianity and the introduction of a host of new diseases that would have dramatic long-term effects on native people in the Americas.

In an era in which the international slave trade was starting to grow, Columbus and his men enslaved many native inhabitants of the West Indies and subjected them to extreme violence and brutality. On his famous first voyage in 1492, Columbus landed on an unknown Caribbean island after an arduous three-month journey.

On his first day in the New World, he ordered six of the natives to be seized, writing in his journal that he believed they would be good servants. Throughout his years in the New World, Columbus enacted policies of forced labor in which natives were put to work for the sake of profits. Later, Columbus sent thousands of peaceful Taino “Indians” from the island of Hispaniola to Spain to be sold. Many died en route.

In addition to the controversy over enslavement and violent rule, the “Age of Exploration” that Columbus helped lead had the additional consequence of bringing new diseases to the New World which would, over time, devastate the native populations of many New World islands and communities.

He brought slavery and disease with him. He was a monster.

Someone else would have found the continent, and considering the technological level of the locals, they were doomed the second the Europeans had ships that could reliably cross the Atlantic and return.

 

[Hellbilly]

Someone else would have found the continent, and considering the technological level of the locals, they were doomed the second the Europeans had ships that could reliably cross the Atlantic and return.

That doesn't mean we should honor them.

 

[martybegan]

Someone else would have found the continent, and considering the technological level of the locals, they were doomed the second the Europeans had ships that could reliably cross the Atlantic and return.

That doesn't mean we should honor them.

He was an important historical figure, and he has been "Adopted" by Italian Americans as a symbol of us here in America.

Why, just because progs are angry right now, should their desires override ours? (I'm 1/2 Italian heritage, Napolitan/Piedmontese)

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

Shouldnt Philly tear down the statue of Rocky since he beat the shit out of a black man Apollo.....

 

[Hellbilly]

He was an important historical figure, and he has been "Adopted" by Italian Americans as a symbol of us here in America.

Why, just because progs are angry right now, should their desires override ours? (I'm 1/2 Italian heritage, Napolitan/Piedmontese)

Why should your desires override our pain?
(I'm Native American.)

 

[shockedcanadian]

Someone else would have found the continent, and considering the technological level of the locals, they were doomed the second the Europeans had ships that could reliably cross the Atlantic and return.

That doesn't mean we should honor them.

It's history. We don't have to agree with them or like what they represented, humans are imperfect, but they are what they are. One of the reasons todays youth so warmly embrace the alt-left, socialist tactics is because of the very elimination of history. How many of them know about the Stasi of East Germany? Or the Gestapo, Nazi Germany, Mao's China? Stalins Russia? They don't. It's not important today, "activism" is the cool thing. How does that help society?

Since they have been sheltered, all part of a design to alter or eliminate history; they are compelled to repeat it. The problem is, as an older generation ages, THEY will bear the brunt of the victimization that is about to occur when it is repeated. This new radicalism, funded by global socialists and pro-China dirtbags, might be FAR worse with the technological advanced and reliance of people on the internet.

Just as the older generation of East Germans suffered under the Stasi and Canadians suffer under our current system of powerful, unaccountable covert police. This doesn't end well. I'd prefer to not alter history. Have a detailed plaque explaining Columbuses history, not altering it or worse, erasing it. The very same people tearing down these monsters, are happily "Cancelling" lives of others. As if that is not evil and diabolical. We need a statue of these Snowflakes constructed and then torn down, to illustrate their contribution to evil.

 

[martybegan]

He was an important historical figure, and he has been "Adopted" by Italian Americans as a symbol of us here in America.

Why, just because progs are angry right now, should their desires override ours? (I'm 1/2 Italian heritage, Napolitan/Piedmontese)

Why should your desires override our pain?
(I'm Native American.)

Yeah right.

If in all your struggles a statue is your biggest concern, you got other issues.

 

[OldLady]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

Well, now that we know what Columbus was really like, I suppose most people will view his statue with a different perspective, but I don't see why it needs to be removed. He's not honored for being a slaver. He's honored for having the sheer guts to test a theory that if you sail west from Europe, you will arrive in India. He had no idea how long it would take or what they would encounter and he was taking his life in his hands in a big way. Before the Bahamas showed up on the horizon, things were getting pretty damned tense.

THAT is why he is honored and remembered, and even though the Vikings had been in Canada and upper New England, they apparently didn't tell anyone about it. So Europe actually found out about North and South America thanks to Columbus. Once he'd done it, others followed and figured out it was actually two massive continents full of goodies to grab as fast as one can.

Just like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, General Grant, yes, slavery was involved. That was the times they lived in. I do not agree with taking down their statues or renaming anything that was named in their honor. Just like with Columbus, we can add information to their stories, tell a more balanced viewpoint. But you don't put these movers and shakers in the trash for a tangential issue that had nothing to do with their achievements.

 

[Cellblock2429]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

/——/ In more idiotic libtard news:

• Activists also pulled down two statues, including one of Col. Hans Christian Heg, a Norwegian immigrant and abolitionist who died fighting for the Union

 

[OldLady]

He was an important historical figure, and he has been "Adopted" by Italian Americans as a symbol of us here in America.

Why, just because progs are angry right now, should their desires override ours? (I'm 1/2 Italian heritage, Napolitan/Piedmontese)

Why should your desires override our pain?
(I'm Native American.)

Taking down Columbus's statue isn't going to take that pain away. Nothing can.

 

[Hellbilly]

If in all your struggles a statue is your biggest concern, you got other issues.

I'm not the one calling for the taking down of statues, just shedding light on why some people are.
My state has already done away with Columbus day, and thats good enough for me.

 

[BlueGin]

All those stories we heard about him finding the New World, and a government wants to take down his statue? History is history for a reason, you can't alter it, it's part of your character as a nation. Where you were from the beginning to now, is all due to incremental steps and changes.


Philadelphia moves to dismantle Christopher Columbus statue

Mayor Jim Kenney announced in a Twitter post that Philadelphia is moving to dismantle the Christopher Columbus statue in Marconi Plaza on South Broad Street.


He tweeted on Wednesday: “Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces. On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue.”

Jim Kenney
✔@PhillyMayor


Part of reckoning with the legacy of systemic racism means reconsidering what figures deserve to be commemorated in our public spaces.

On July 22, the City will ask the Philadelphia Art Commission to approve the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue. https://www.phila.gov/2020-06-24-the-future-of-the-christopher-columbus-statue-in-marconi-plaza/ …

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In Philadelphia, a city with a deep Italian heritage, Columbus is celebrated with an annual holiday parade, and supporters said they considered him an emblem of their heritage.

The city added about the announcement: "Christopher Columbus became a symbol of Italian communities’ contributions to U.S. history, but scholars and historians have uncovered first-hand documentation establishing that his arrival in the Americas also marked the beginning of the displacement and genocide of Indigenous people. In recent weeks, clashes between those individuals who support the statue of Christopher Columbus in Marconi Plaza and those who are distressed by its existence have deteriorated to a concerning public safety situation. It is a situation that cannot be allowed to continue.”

At least they are trying to follow procedure, but they are still wrong.

Where does it end?

And if they think this will appease the mob, they are sorely mistaken.

The more they appease the more the mob will demand

 

[martybegan]

If in all your struggles a statue is your biggest concern, you got other issues.

I'm not the one calling for the taking down of statues, just shedding light on why some people are.
My state has already done away with Columbus day, and thats good enough for me.

Why not just make another holiday for native americans?

Why take away something from others over your own butt hurt?

 

[BlueGin]

This might have something to do with it.

Like many European explorers, Christopher Columbus encountered indigenous people throughout his voyages. There are three main sources of controversy involving his interactions with the indigenous people he labeled “Indians”: the use of violence and slavery, the forced conversion of native peoples to Christianity and the introduction of a host of new diseases that would have dramatic long-term effects on native people in the Americas.

In an era in which the international slave trade was starting to grow, Columbus and his men enslaved many native inhabitants of the West Indies and subjected them to extreme violence and brutality. On his famous first voyage in 1492, Columbus landed on an unknown Caribbean island after an arduous three-month journey.

On his first day in the New World, he ordered six of the natives to be seized, writing in his journal that he believed they would be good servants. Throughout his years in the New World, Columbus enacted policies of forced labor in which natives were put to work for the sake of profits. Later, Columbus sent thousands of peaceful Taino “Indians” from the island of Hispaniola to Spain to be sold. Many died en route.

In addition to the controversy over enslavement and violent rule, the “Age of Exploration” that Columbus helped lead had the additional consequence of bringing new diseases to the New World which would, over time, devastate the native populations of many New World islands and communities.

He brought slavery and disease with him. He was a monster.

The Indians had slaves from other tribes. Slavery was not a new thing.

 

[Hellbilly]

Taking down Columbus's statue isn't going to take that pain away.

It won't. Nothing will. As I said, I'm not the one calling for it.