Petition for Treason Charges against Republicans online

[g5000]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.

So should we prosecute them also?

You made something up, and now you want to act on it? Really?

 

[g5000]

VIOLATION OF THE LOGAN ACT
Even the most staunch Republican cannot deny that directly contacting Iran, in an effort to derail the President’s authority, is downright shady and unethical. Unfortunately for those 47 Republicans in Congress, it’s also treasonous.

Nope. They did not violate the Logan Act. It was a dick move, but no law was broken.

Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl33265.pdf

 

[HenryBHough]

Liberals obviously don't know how Constitutional Government is set up.

I must disagree.

They do know - they just don't give a shit.

And that's a good thing because the precedents are setting will result in their anti-American party being outlawed after regime change kicks in.

 

[Ravi]

I don't know about treason, but they are seriously fucked in the head. They've just told the world that an American president has no power from this day forth. What is wrong with these assholes?

They are politicians playing to their constituents. But they really have not told the world this. The people we negotiate with in the world are not simpletons. They understand this was a publicity stunt and will give it the concern it is worth. They may use it for their own press releases, but ultimately it will have no impact at the table.

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

 

[bripat9643]

There are times when the word “treason” is thrown around lightly. This is not one of those times. And while it may meet the legal definition of ‘sedition’ more than ‘treason,’ Republicans have consistently been trying to usurp President Obama’s authority by derailing negotiations with Iran. Though their invitation to Netanyahu doesn’t equate to treason, their directly contacting Iran’s leaders to stop the peace process violates federal law. And Americans aren’t taking it any longer.

REPUBLICANS THREATEN IRAN
When Republicans invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak to Congress, without even consulting the White House, it became obvious that they were trying to override the President’s authority. Netanyahu and the Republicans’ main goal in doing this was to hinder the negotiations process with Iran, which could prevent an all out war that would engulf the entirety of the Middle East.

The move was undoubtedly shady, but it wasn’t all that surprising. The real kicker happened when, as we reported, 47 Republicans in the Senate wrote a threatening letter to the leaders of Iran informing them that any deal reached with the President would be null and void if a Republican were ever to enter the White House. Also very disturbing is the fact that Tom Cotton, the freshman Republican senator from Arkansas who organized the letter announced he will be attending a major gathering of lobbyists for weapons contractors on Tuesday, where he will speak off the record. Pissed off yet? You and millions of others.

VIOLATION OF THE LOGAN ACT
Even the most staunch Republican cannot deny that directly contacting Iran, in an effort to derail the President’s authority, is downright shady and unethical. Unfortunately for those 47 Republicans in Congress, it’s also treasonous.

As it turns out, The Logan Act is a federal law, signed in 1799 and last amended in 1994, which prevents unauthorized citizens from communicating with foreign governments for a variety of reasons. The text of the law is as follows:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.”

This means that Republicans outright violated federal law in an effort to usurp President Obama’s authority. They were in no way authorized to communicate with the leaders of Iran. Punishment under this law is a maximum of three years in prison.

Americans recognize this, and so a petition was created on the White House website to file charges against the 47 Senators who violated the law. As of this writing, hundreds of signatures were being added every few minutes.

The White House petition website works in a way that, when a petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the White House has to issue a response. The Republicans have undoubtedly overstepped their authority and engaged in undeniable treason, and it’s time that they were held accountable. Note: There appears to be a glitch on the White House petition page which has frozen the number of signatures. Rest assured that the tally is much higher than it is showing.


Sign the petition here: File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement. We the People Your Voice in Our Government

SIGNATURES NEEDED BY APRIL 08, 2015 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000
72,322
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION
27,678

Where were these calls for treason charges when the Dims flew to Iraq to make themselves human shields for Saddam and to make deals with him?

Liberal turds simply have no shame, do they?

 

[bripat9643]

I don't know about treason, but they are seriously fucked in the head. They've just told the world that an American president has no power from this day forth. What is wrong with these assholes?

They are politicians playing to their constituents. But they really have not told the world this. The people we negotiate with in the world are not simpletons. They understand this was a publicity stunt and will give it the concern it is worth. They may use it for their own press releases, but ultimately it will have no impact at the table.

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

Democrats, in other words.

 

[Siete]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.





...

Reagan made his speech on June 12, 1987, and the dismantling of the Berlin Wall did not begin until November 1989, more than two years later when Reagan was in retirement. Even then, President Gorbachev didn’t “tear down this wall”; the German people did, starting with sledgehammers and later using industrial equipment, as East and West Germany were reunified

timelines are a ***** for little voices to remember ...

 

[g5000]

Where were these calls for treason charges when the Dims flew to Iraq to make themselves human shields for Saddam and to make deals with him?

Which Congresscritters were those? Name them.

 

[Ravi]

I don't know about treason, but they are seriously fucked in the head. They've just told the world that an American president has no power from this day forth. What is wrong with these assholes?

They are politicians playing to their constituents. But they really have not told the world this. The people we negotiate with in the world are not simpletons. They understand this was a publicity stunt and will give it the concern it is worth. They may use it for their own press releases, but ultimately it will have no impact at the table.

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

Democrats, in other words.

You've already sided with ISIS. What more proof do we need that you hate the west?

 

[Little-Acorn]

I actively support and agree with your outrage against U.S. Senators sending letters of support to enemies of this country who are threatening us with nuclear weapons.

Sen. Ted Kennedy's (D-MA) letter to USSR Premier Yuri Andropov in 1983, offering to help him evade then-President Reagan's attempts to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both countries, ranks among the top treasonous missives in U.S. history.

Kennedy offered to come to Moscow to help the Russians develop propaganda to defeat Reagan's disarmament attempts. He also tried to arrange for Andropov to interview with U.S. media outlets for the same purpose.

As you said, to advise a US enemy, to encourage them to develop a weapon to use against us, these scum have really hit bottom.

Did they commit a felony? Quite possibly. To openly sell out their own country, as you described it, is the worst of the worst.

This happened with a U.S. enemy that had already developed nuclear weapons AND the systems to deliver them onto U.S. cities. They had them aimed right at us, ready to fire. Not just to some backwater wannabe 7th-century dictatorship which the Democrats were insisting would never develop nuclear weapons at all, just nuclear power for "peaceful purposes". So I'm sure you'd agree that what Kennedy did was far more serious than what present-day Republicans have done. Right?

Flashback Big Three Ignored Ted Kennedy s Letter to Soviet Union

----------------------------------

Oops, wrong thread. Can you tell me where's the thread Democrats wrote, expressing their outrage over Kennedy's strange treason? I'll transfer this post there, and erase it here, as soon as I find it.

 

[tinydancer]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.

So should we prosecute them also?

You made something up, and now you want to act on it? Really?

Kennedy's letter to Andropov. I'm pretty sure that's what the poster is referring to.

Kennedy and the Dem's were willing to work with Andropov in dealing with Reagan and in return Kennedy wanted to work with the Soviet Union to defeat Reagan in the 1984 election.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the Constutition gives Congress foreign policy authority so the Congress is very free to talk to foreign countries regarding our foreign policy. This is obvious.

No, that's utter garbage.

No it isn't, the Senate is tasked with approving any treaty the President and Secretary of State propose or get. They have a duty and responsibility to respond to that with investigations and communications to and from Foreign Governments.

I REPEAT, I listed the two specific things that constitute treason, explain how this letter violates either provision or admit you are full of shit.

Who the **** are you talking to because it sure isn't me.

dear, American history talks to you and says there is no free speech and Congress cant write an editorial about Iran,... so we know you are slow.

American history, not your friend but it is mine. And 67K now for the Tehran Tom spanking.

Still WAITING for your explanation how this letter equates to treason as defined by the Constitution, isn't it telling you have no answer?

 

[HenryBHough]

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

You'll have a hard time convincing liberal Democrats who turned cartwheels of joy on The Mall when Obama wandered the world groveling and apologizing. With that I wish you well.

 

[tinydancer]

I actively support and agree with your outrage against U.S. Senators sending letters of support to enemies of this country who are threatening us with nuclear weapons.

Sen. Ted Kennedy's (D-MA) letter to USSR Premier Yuri Andropov in 1983, offering to help him evade then-President Reagan's attempts to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both countries, ranks among the top treasonous missives in U.S. history.

Kennedy offered to come to Moscow to help the Russians develop propaganda to defeat Reagan's disarmament attempts. He also tried to arrange for Andropov to interview with U.S. media outlets for the same purpose.

As you said, to advise a US enemy, to encourage them to develop a weapon to use against us, these scum have really hit bottom.

Did they commit a felony? Quite possibly. To openly sell out their own country, as you described it, is the worst of the worst.

This happened with a U.S. enemy that had already developed nuclear weapons AND the systems to deliver them onto U.S. cities. They had them aimed right at us, ready to fire. Not just to some backwater wannabe 7th-century dictatorship which the Democrats were insisting would never develop nuclear weapons at all, just nuclear power for "peaceful purposes". So I'm sure you'd agree that what Kennedy did was far more serious than what present-day Republicans have done. Right?

Flashback Big Three Ignored Ted Kennedy s Letter to Soviet Union

----------------------------------

Oops, wrong thread. Can you tell me where's the thread Democrats wrote, expressing their outrage over Kennedy's strange treason? I'll transfer this post there, and erase it here, as soon as I find it.

Good show. I was looking for the Forbes article. I mean how blatant a "let's work with the enemy" can you get?

 

[Ravi]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.

So should we prosecute them also?

You made something up, and now you want to act on it? Really?

Kennedy's letter to Andropov. I'm pretty sure that's what the poster is referring to.

Kennedy and the Dem's were willing to work with Andropov in dealing with Reagan and in return Kennedy wanted to work with the Soviet Union to defeat Reagan in the 1984 election.

Awesome! That makes it all okay.

 

[Ravi]

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

You'll have a hard time convincing liberal Democrats who turned cartwheels of joy on The Mall when Obama wandered the world groveling and apologizing. With that I wish you well.

So you think undermining our president is good?

 

[g5000]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.

So should we prosecute them also?

You made something up, and now you want to act on it? Really?

Kennedy's letter to Andropov. I'm pretty sure that's what the poster is referring to.

Kennedy and the Dem's were willing to work with Andropov in dealing with Reagan and in return Kennedy wanted to work with the Soviet Union to defeat Reagan in the 1984 election.

Awesome! That makes it all okay.

Yes, the Tu Quoque Fallacy rules supreme on this forum. Two wrongs make a right wing.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't know about treason, but they are seriously fucked in the head. They've just told the world that an American president has no power from this day forth. What is wrong with these assholes?

They are politicians playing to their constituents. But they really have not told the world this. The people we negotiate with in the world are not simpletons. They understand this was a publicity stunt and will give it the concern it is worth. They may use it for their own press releases, but ultimately it will have no impact at the table.

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

Democrats, in other words.

You've already sided with ISIS. What more proof do we need that you hate the west?

When did I side with ISIS? Obama provided them with weapons and supplies. That makes him a traitor in your book, doesn't it?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I was a young guy when Reagan was taking the Soviet empire out. Didn't the democrat senators write letters to Gorbachev?

Nope. The voices in your head are making shit up.

So should we prosecute them also?

You made something up, and now you want to act on it? Really?

Kennedy's letter to Andropov. I'm pretty sure that's what the poster is referring to.

Kennedy and the Dem's were willing to work with Andropov in dealing with Reagan and in return Kennedy wanted to work with the Soviet Union to defeat Reagan in the 1984 election.

Awesome! That makes it all okay.

Yes, the Tu Quoque Fallacy rules supreme on this forum. Two wrongs make a right wing.

Perhaps YOU can explain how this letter rises to treason, I mean none of the democrats that support it can.

 

[bripat9643]

Okay, if you say so. Anything that weakens the US is not a good thing.

You'll have a hard time convincing liberal Democrats who turned cartwheels of joy on The Mall when Obama wandered the world groveling and apologizing. With that I wish you well.

So you think undermining our president is good?

In the case of Obama, yes. We need to undermine everything he tries to pull on us.