Pete Hegseth Says Air Force Restoring Tuskegee Airmen Videos Amid Backlash

[Robert W]

An all-white male army isn't the best military.

You better tell blacks to join the military then.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Many soldiers are coming in to service never having interacted with blacks, Hispanics, gays, Muslims
They also come in with preconceived biases

DEI is still critical

That is a problem that has been addressed without DEI for decades. I think you will find that society is not nearly as divided as you seem to think.

Here is a little factoid for you! The first time I ever met a Mormon in my life was the guy who slept in the rack next to me at boot camp and the only reason I knew was that he made it a point to tell me in conversation. It meant nothing to me at the time and I knew nothing about LDSs. Later, one of my best friends was Mormon. We had no difficulty in that area as our other closest friend was the chaplain.

 

[rightwinger]

That is a problem that has been addressed without DEI for decades. I think you will find that society is not nearly as divided as you seem to think.

Here is a little factoid for you! The first time I ever met a Mormon in my life was the guy who slept in the rack next to me at boot camp and the only reason I knew was that he made it a point to tell me in conversation. It meant nothing to me at the time and I knew nothing about LDSs. Later, one of my best friends was Mormon. We had no difficulty in that area as our other closest friend was the chaplain.

How does DEI differ from other non discrimination policies in the military?

 

[rightwinger]

DEI embodies reverse discrimination whether you like it or not.

They said the same thing about Affirmative Action in the military

 

[Robert W]

How does DEI differ from other non discrimination policies in the military?

I don't know but when I trained to fly airplanes, the school had no black instructors nor black students being trained to be pilots. I did not consider that an impediment to my training.

 

[Robert W]

They said the same thing about Affirmative Action in the military

Democrats said that.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know but when I trained to fly airplanes, the school had no black instructors nor black students being trained to be pilots. I did not consider that an impediment to my training.

Shows why DEI was needed back then

Senior leadership positions were reserved for white males

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How does DEI differ from other non discrimination policies in the military?

DEI apparently is not what you think it is. Why don't you start there and learn why it is so toxic.

 

[Robert W]

Shows why DEI was needed back then

Senior leadership positions were reserved for white males

Blacks just hate to fly. If they loved to fly, the school would have had plenty of them since the city I trained at has tons of Blacks.

 

[Robert W]

Shows why DEI was needed back then

Senior leadership positions were reserved for white males

Why torture yourself posting here? All you want are blacks.

FDR schooled the public about blacks. He relegated many blacks to last ditch efforts in WW2.

 

[rightwinger]

Blacks just hate to fly. If they loved to fly, the school would have had plenty of them since the city I trained at has tons of Blacks.

You were in the military

You saw who got approved for prestigious training opportunities
It wasn’t Black or Hispanics

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Segragation was about demklansmen maintaining power and control

Nah the demklan created the klan, they weren’t like the gop

Yea we know who founded the Klan, we also know which party fights to keep up statues and monuments of Klan heroes, we also know who the Klan supports today. Now let us move on, there were racist republicans that fought to keep black folks down as well. We can clearly see which party today works against black folks, if you can't it's because you don't want to see it or you are just naive as hell. I think we know which category you fall into. Project 2025 is in full effect.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Because a Black man excluded from flying combat by the color of his skin or a woman excluded from flying combat aircraft because of her sex are wrongs that have been rightly corrected.

A man pretending to be a woman for attention is not a wrong that needs to be corrected.

It does nothing to enhance warfighting, which is a warrior’s job.

Ok, I don't recall saying anything about a man being a woman .

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Does that mean you're a racist?

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Nope.

 

[struth]

Yea we know who founded the Klan, we also know which party fights to keep up statues and monuments of Klan heroes, we also know who the Klan supports today. Now let us move on, there were racist republicans that fought to keep black folks down as well. We can clearly see which party today works against black folks, if you can't it's because you don't want to see it or you are just naive as hell. I think we know which category you fall into. Project 2025 is in full effect.

Yep we saw the former Dem president xiden give the eulogy to a grand dragon of the klan and get the support of Richard Spensor

Now we are seeing demklan voters running out saying they can’t treat people fairly without a stated policy from the govt

Crazy

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Thisis what your own link says:

Chief of Staff Gen. David Allvin said in a statement Monday the initial course removal, which affected the videos, occurred because the service, like other agencies, had to move swiftly to comply with Trump's executive order banning DEI content and ensure "all remnants of the outdated policies" were removed, with "no equivocation, no slow-rolling, no foot-dragging.

Allvin said the stories of both groups will continue to be taught in basic military training: "The historic legacy and decorated valor these Airmen embodied during World War II and beyond will continue to guide our newest recruits and all who serve in our ranks."


So not sure what had to be restored.

In a post on X (formerly Twitter) on Sunday, Hegseth clarified that any attempt to cut the Tuskegee Airmen training material had been "immediately reversed."

 

[Robert W]

You were in the military

You saw who got approved for prestigious training opportunities
It wasn’t Black or Hispanics

I knew three blacks in my whole time in the Army who were worth a stale piece of bread.
The Captain I served was black and I honored him on this very forum. Seems Democrats were not impressed by him. My assistant platoon Sgt in Basic was black and a great person. Last was in Germany a black that handled our mail as I recall that guy. He was really a good guy.

I believe when I was in the Army, picking men like me to be the platoon sgt was rare. The training unit was very short of full time EM to handle even a platoon. All of us who were platoon sgts were white men. It was great to be in that job for me.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You should thank Pete.

For what?

 

[Robert W]

Yea we know who founded the Klan, we also know which party fights to keep up statues and monuments of Klan heroes, we also know who the Klan supports today. Now let us move on, there were racist republicans that fought to keep black folks down as well. We can clearly see which party today works against black folks, if you can't it's because you don't want to see it or you are just naive as hell. I think we know which category you fall into. Project 2025 is in full effect.

Those statues you whine about are dead men. We do not worship them. We only recognize they are part of history. We do not destroy such statues like Democrats do.

If we had today, a president who called out a huge army to invade any state, as did Lincoln, you would change your tune.

 

[excalibur]

Sounds like a nothing burger. Next.

Yeah, they've taken a group of guys, the Tuskegee Airmen, and act as if we wouldn't have won the war without them. They were a tiny cog in a vast war machine, enough about them already.