Perverts, aka Satanists, want to be considered a valid religion. DeSantis says No

[WinterBorn]

I guess you don't care that Satanists believe in murdering people?

just like those religious folks called Jihasists.

But you never cared about murder. You're a leftist

Do you have a link for that?

 

[jknowgood]

Like christianty

What's wrong with Christianity? If a person becomes a Christian, he can choose against it when he gets older. Nothing happens permanent. But if an 8 year old chooses to mutilate their body. It's permanent, I see you're an idiot.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I didn't lie, you support teaching 8 year olds they can change their gender? Yes or no?

Please show where I ever said or wrote that. You can't. Thus you make an implication you can't support.

Why?

Because I defeated a point of yours.

Now do you admit all good Americans support Freedom of Religion.

An aside: what does that have to do with gender?

 

[otto105]

Already addressed. You two get your talking points from WAPO?

It’s been addressed that all religions kill.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What's wrong with Christianity? If a person becomes a Christian, he can choose against it when he gets older. Nothing happens permanent. But if an 8 year old chooses to mutilate their body. It's permanent, I see you're an idiot.

Be careful with them screaming Christianity, you have "Christian" churches blessing gay marriage.

Hint, that's not Christian

 

[WinterBorn]

I think most people here are confused about what the Church of Satan or Satanism are all about.

Here is a blurb from the Church of Satan website.

Official Church of Satan Website - churchofsatan.com

Welcome to the official website of the Church of Satan. Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man's true nature-that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos that is indifferent to our...

www.churchofsatan.com

"Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos that is indifferent to our existence. To us, Satan is the symbol that best suits the nature of we who are carnal by birth—people who feel no battles raging between our thoughts and feelings, we who do not embrace the concept of a soul imprisoned in a body. He represents pride, liberty, and individualism—qualities often defined as Evil by those who worship external deities, who feel there is a war between their minds and emotions.

As Anton LaVey explained in his classic work The Satanic Bible, Man—using his brain—invented all the Gods, doing so because many of our species cannot accept or control their personal egos, feeling compelled to conjure up one or a multiplicity of characters who can act without hindrance or guilt upon whims and desires. All Gods are thus externalized forms, magnified projections of the true nature of their creators, personifying aspects of the universe or personal temperaments which many of their followers find to be troubling. Worshipping any God is thus worshipping by proxy those who invented that God. Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value.

We Satanists are thus our own “Gods,” and as beneficent “deities” we can offer love to those who deserve it and deliver our wrath (within reasonable limits) upon those who seek to cause us—or that which we cherish—harm. "



These are not the "devil worshippers" that everyone was scared of in the 1980s.

And the Church of Satan does not condone murder.

 

[otto105]

Be careful with them screaming Christianity, you have "Christian" churches blessing gay marriage.

Hint, that's not Christian

Ed Gein

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Ed Gein

Sigh... you're too dumb to continue to deal with

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

DeSantis pledges support for devil statue decapitator, says govt should not recognize Satanism as 'religion'

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis said the Satanic Temple shouldn't be recognized as a religion by the United States government.

www.foxnews.com

Again, I have not finished this, but will soon. I thought others here would be interested.

Yeh, those wacky religions... All of them should be equally respected along with the ones that respect human life!

FREEDOM!

We have to accept every damn perverse thing one can think to do, including worshipping Satan! Where's that in the US Constitution?

Our nation was founded on CHRISTIAN (Judeo-Christian) principles.

I say to the Satanists: Go somewhere else... although I really want them to just go... uh... where they ultimately belong


from the site:

"Satan has no place in our society [LOL] and should not be recognized as a ‘religion’ by the federal government," DeSantis tweeted. "I'll chip in to contribute to this veteran's legal defense fund."

Me

Good for him! It's about time politicians stood up to this insanity!

well, actually, it is past time...

Christians are clearly the perverts:

Search warrant provides new details of rape accusation against Florida Republican Party chair

Christian Ziegler and his wife Bridget are both active in Republican politics in the state.

www.politico.com

Otherwise, given the fact that all religions are created by man and are consequently false, Satanism is just as valid a religion as any other.

 

[Borillar]

I guess you don't care that Satanists believe in murdering people?

just like those religious folks called Jihasists.

But you never cared about murder. You're a leftist

The history of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc are replete with murder and killing. They have a lot more blood on their hands than these so called "Satanists".

In any case, we enjoy 1st Amendment rights to believe whatever unsupportable nonsense we want. DeSanctimonious doesn't get to decide for us.

 

[jknowgood]

Please show where I ever said or wrote that. You can't. Thus you make an implication you can't support.

Why?

Because I defeated a point of yours.

Now do you admit all good Americans support Freedom of Religion.

An aside: what does that have to do with gender?

You believe a girl can be a boy? Yes or no?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You believe a girl can be a boy? Yes or no?

With enough grooming and indoctrination....

 

[citygator]

You support Satan's views?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This OP is not about gender transition. It is about Freedom of Religion, a constitutional right, which you do not support, jknowgood. Why?

 

[Couchpotato]

Good Americans support Freedom of Religion,

Satanism isn’t a religion.

 

[Couchpotato]

I think most people here are confused about what the Church of Satan or Satanism are all about.

Here is a blurb from the Church of Satan website.

Official Church of Satan Website - churchofsatan.com

Welcome to the official website of the Church of Satan. Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man's true nature-that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos that is indifferent to our...

www.churchofsatan.com

"Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos that is indifferent to our existence. To us, Satan is the symbol that best suits the nature of we who are carnal by birth—people who feel no battles raging between our thoughts and feelings, we who do not embrace the concept of a soul imprisoned in a body. He represents pride, liberty, and individualism—qualities often defined as Evil by those who worship external deities, who feel there is a war between their minds and emotions.

As Anton LaVey explained in his classic work The Satanic Bible, Man—using his brain—invented all the Gods, doing so because many of our species cannot accept or control their personal egos, feeling compelled to conjure up one or a multiplicity of characters who can act without hindrance or guilt upon whims and desires. All Gods are thus externalized forms, magnified projections of the true nature of their creators, personifying aspects of the universe or personal temperaments which many of their followers find to be troubling. Worshipping any God is thus worshipping by proxy those who invented that God. Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value.

We Satanists are thus our own “Gods,” and as beneficent “deities” we can offer love to those who deserve it and deliver our wrath (within reasonable limits) upon those who seek to cause us—or that which we cherish—harm. "



These are not the "devil worshippers" that everyone was scared of in the 1980s.

And the Church of Satan does not condone murder.

They worship the self. Which is why it’s not a religion.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Satanism isn’t a religion.

Satanism is certainly a religion, but whether it is protected is undediced. That is up in air, and the fact is that your opinion only for you.

In fact, "According to a source1, there is very little case law on the specific issue of whether Satanism is a protected religion, and what we do have is a bit jumbled. An illustrative case from the mid-1990s from the federal court in the Northern District of Ohio, while not binding precedent, is an excellent summary of how confused American constitutional law has become regarding religion. In Carpenter v. Wilkinson, the court deals with a lawsuit by a prisoner who was denied access to a Satanic Bible while incarcerated. While the court ends up deciding the case on other grounds, it goes into great detail about the contours of religious liberty. The court’s analysis begins by admitting that “Deciding what is ‘religious’ or what constitutes a ‘religion’ is a very delicate undertaking, especially where the claimed ‘religious’ beliefs fall outside what is commonly thought of as mainstream religion.” At the same time, the court knows that there cannot be a “blanket privilege” to create any set of beliefs justifying one to conduct himself however he pleases, and call it a protected religion. Thus the court is stuck between religious relativism and the anarchy that would result if it actually allowed that relativism to play out.

Another source2 states that the First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The argument was simply that, at the time the First Amendment was ratified, the definition of the word “religion” clearly did not include Satanism.

In conclusion, the issue of whether Satanism is a protected religion under the Constitution is a complex one, and there is no clear answer."

 

[WinterBorn]

Satanism is certainly a religion, but whether it is protected is undediced. That is up in air, and the fact is that your opinion only for you.

In fact, "According to a source1, there is very little case law on the specific issue of whether Satanism is a protected religion, and what we do have is a bit jumbled. An illustrative case from the mid-1990s from the federal court in the Northern District of Ohio, while not binding precedent, is an excellent summary of how confused American constitutional law has become regarding religion. In Carpenter v. Wilkinson, the court deals with a lawsuit by a prisoner who was denied access to a Satanic Bible while incarcerated. While the court ends up deciding the case on other grounds, it goes into great detail about the contours of religious liberty. The court’s analysis begins by admitting that “Deciding what is ‘religious’ or what constitutes a ‘religion’ is a very delicate undertaking, especially where the claimed ‘religious’ beliefs fall outside what is commonly thought of as mainstream religion.” At the same time, the court knows that there cannot be a “blanket privilege” to create any set of beliefs justifying one to conduct himself however he pleases, and call it a protected religion. Thus the court is stuck between religious relativism and the anarchy that would result if it actually allowed that relativism to play out.

Another source2 states that the First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The argument was simply that, at the time the First Amendment was ratified, the definition of the word “religion” clearly did not include Satanism.

In conclusion, the issue of whether Satanism is a protected religion under the Constitution is a complex one, and there is no clear answer."

It is a religion. It's followers have the same protected status that Christians do.

 

[otto105]

Satanism isn’t a religion.

Hilarious

 

[Soupnazi630]

If you don't believe in God, you're doomed.

you're doomed even if you do believe in any of the gods created by man. Which includes yours