"personhood" idiocy in N Dakota

[clevergirl]

No one forces women to have sex. If they do they go to prision, and rightly. One can only surmise that women become pregnant voluntarily. A myriad of effective birth control devices are readily available including the right to say no.

Why should adult women not live up to their choices and responsibilities? What gives them the power of life and death? Should men have the right to kill their progeny, too?

It's really none of anyone's business what two consenting adults do.

And it's not the government's business what a woman decides to do with her own body.

It's a pretty simple concept.

Women don't have the right to kill human beings because they find it convenient.

That. too, is a simple concept.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Crackerjaxon mumbles and bumbles and stumbles then crumbles as he realizes that he has no power to interfere in the women's world anymore. SCOTUS took care of that. Better place here because of it.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Personhood laws are not just anti-abortion laws, and attempting to make the issue a "pro-life vs pro-choice" argument is disingenuous. Personhood laws give full rights to fetuses and they give the state the right to "speak" for those fetuses.

Once that happens, the state can speak for all "persons", born and unborn.

The organ harvesting companies are pushing this type of law as hard as they can.

The state speaks for incapacitated people to protect their interests.

It's one of the legitimate functions of government.

NIce red herring with the organ harvesting companies thing.

 

[RosieS]

Oh the times, they are a changin. Thanks to the Big Brother-Worshippers. He can do almost anything now. Stay tuned.

Yep, males cannot rule women anymore. Sob.

Irrelevant. Many American Women oppose Abortion.

Even they cannot be forced to carry nor be forced back into the Dark Ages as Unclevergrrl prefers.

Quite relevant. Even 40 years later.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Crackerjaxon mumbles and bumbles and stumbles then crumbles as he realizes that he has no power to interfere in the women's world anymore. SCOTUS took care of that. Better place here because of it.

Jakey baby evades the issue and hides behind SCOTUS and any available skirt. What is at issue here is human rights, no?

Is that fetus part of the human community or not?

Get with the program, Jakey.

 

[paulitician]

No, it's not a man-woman thing. Many, many women believe that human life is sacred, too.

Sorry, no cigar.

Babies aren't prostates, you moron, nor are they globs of cells or choices.

The fact that you were born with a uterus does not qualify you to kill human beings for convenience.

The fact that you were born without a uterus prevents you from doing anything concerning my uterus. I have privacy rights given to me over my uterus, and protecting it from YOU, given to me by SCOTUS. It has been that way for 40 years and you STILL don't get it. How slow and dull of you.

You can't make an woman carry and you can't prevent any abortion. 40 years and comprehension eludes you.

Seems SCOTUS understood exactly what kind of males needed to be dealt with decisively. And so the men of 40 years ago on the Court did.

Regards from Rosie

SCOTUS overstepped itself --nothing new there. Apparently killing is alright as long as it's done in private, is that it?

My. what stunning logic in your argument. It amounts to neener, neener, neener, I can kill my baby any time I want to and there's nothing you can do about it.

I believe that if SCOTUS knew they were giving carte blanche to irresponsible women to kill humans at will it would've thought twice.

By the way, millions of people are working to preserve the sanctity of life and there's nothing you can do about that, either.

Ironically, the Big Brother-Worship is likely very strong with that one. Probably just another hypocritical Socialist Nanny/Police Stater. All for Government dictating terms in Citizens' personal lives. Yet when it comes to killing babies, they want Government out of their lives. Unless it's to fund the killing of babies of course. Nanny/Police Staters are so confused. It's actually pretty funny watching them spinning their wheels.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Yep, males cannot rule women anymore. Sob.

Irrelevant. Many American Women oppose Abortion.

Even they cannot be forced to carry nor be forced back into the Dark Ages as Unclevergrrl prefers.

Quite relevant. Even 40 years later.

Regards from Rosie

No one's forcing anything on anyone. Do stop lying.

 

[paulitician]

Yep, males cannot rule women anymore. Sob.

Irrelevant. Many American Women oppose Abortion.

Even they cannot be forced to carry nor be forced back into the Dark Ages as Unclevergrrl prefers.

Quite relevant. Even 40 years later.

Regards from Rosie

Who's forcing them? They oppose killing babies. You just don't agree. But that's too bad. They're American Citizens too. They have the right to fight for what they believe in. Deal with it.

 

[RosieS]

It's really none of anyone's business what two consenting adults do.

And it's not the government's business what a woman decides to do with her own body.

It's a pretty simple concept.

Women don't have the right to kill human beings because they find it convenient.

That. too, is a simple concept.

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

 

[RosieS]

Irrelevant. Many American Women oppose Abortion.

Even they cannot be forced to carry nor be forced back into the Dark Ages as Unclevergrrl prefers.

Quite relevant. Even 40 years later.

Regards from Rosie

Who's forcing them? They oppose killing babies. You just don't agree. But that's too bad. They're American Citizens too. They have the right to fight for what they believe in. Deal with it.

Hands off, from a defined distance, impotently. That is the reality you refuse to deal with in your fantasy la-la 1950's land.

Regards from Rosie

 

[paulitician]

Women don't have the right to kill human beings because they find it convenient.

That. too, is a simple concept.

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

 

[jasonnfree]

Since republicans cherish the unborn so much, maybe they could establish a fund for unwanted babies. Schools, orphanages and healthcare to babies that weren't aborted by mothers, in exchange for the mother to be able to walk away and never see the child again. Sound good lovers of the unborn? You have to dig deep for this project but it's for the children.

 

[paulitician]

Even they cannot be forced to carry nor be forced back into the Dark Ages as Unclevergrrl prefers.

Quite relevant. Even 40 years later.

Regards from Rosie

Who's forcing them? They oppose killing babies. You just don't agree. But that's too bad. They're American Citizens too. They have the right to fight for what they believe in. Deal with it.

Hands off, from a defined distance, impotently. That is the reality you refuse to deal with in your fantasy la-la 1950's land.

Regards from Rosie

Ironic and hilarious. You're probably a Socialist Nanny/Police Stater. All for Government dictating terms in Citizens' personal lives, except when it comes to killing babies. Like i said, you're no martyr or hero. You're just a dishonest hypocrite.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Since republicans cherish the unborn so much, maybe they could establish a fund for unwanted babies. Schools, orphanages and healthcare to babies that weren't aborted by mothers, in exchange for the mother to be able to walk away and never see the child again. Sound good lovers of the unborn? You have to dig deep for this project but it's for the children.

Private charities are doing that very thing.

Where have you been?

 

[paulitician]

Since republicans cherish the unborn so much, maybe they could establish a fund for unwanted babies. Schools, orphanages and healthcare to babies that weren't aborted by mothers, in exchange for the mother to be able to walk away and never see the child again. Sound good lovers of the unborn? You have to dig deep for this project but it's for the children.

Private charities are doing that very thing.

Where have you been?

And we're an Entitlement Nation for God's sake. Gawd, Socialist Nanny Staters are so damn ignorant.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

The inseminator?

ROFL.

The inseminator.

Not the father, not even the baby daddy, but the inseminator.

Someone should arrest you for semantic abuse.

 

[RosieS]

Who's forcing them? They oppose killing babies. You just don't agree. But that's too bad. They're American Citizens too. They have the right to fight for what they believe in. Deal with it.

Hands off, from a defined distance, impotently. That is the reality you refuse to deal with in your fantasy la-la 1950's land.

Regards from Rosie

Ironic and hilarious. You're probably a Socialist Nanny/Police Stater. All for Government dictating terms in Citizens' personal lives, except when it comes to killing babies. Like i said, you're no martyr or hero. You're just a dishonest hypocrite.

That is what you resort to when faced squarely with the truth? That is all you've got? Otay... LOL!

Regards from Rosie

 

[RosieS]

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

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You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

The inseminator?

ROFL.

The inseminator.

Not the father, not even the baby daddy, but the inseminator.

Someone should arrest you for semantic abuse.

"Semantic abuse" is the best you've got. Pathetic.

Regards from Rosie

 

[AmyNation]

Just a recap, this bill would

Make abortion illegal for any reason
Make certain types of birth control illegal
Make certain types of invetro illegal
Make the disposal of fertilized eggs illegal
Make the use of fertilized eggs for medical purposes illegal
Take medical decision out of the hands of pregnant women and place ultimate authority with the state.

 

[paulitician]

Hands off, from a defined distance, impotently. That is the reality you refuse to deal with in your fantasy la-la 1950's land.

Regards from Rosie

Ironic and hilarious. You're probably a Socialist Nanny/Police Stater. All for Government dictating terms in Citizens' personal lives, except when it comes to killing babies. Like i said, you're no martyr or hero. You're just a dishonest hypocrite.

That is what you resort to when faced squarely with the truth? That is all you've got? Otay... LOL!

Regards from Rosie

Yup, you're a Socialist Nanny/Police Stater. I got it right. You just love Big Brother dictating terms in Citizens' personal lives, except when it comes to killing babies. But of course you're all for Big Brother funding the killing of babies. So you're a just a very confused hypocrite. It is what it is.