Pentagon requests $200 billion for Iran war… where are all the “fiscal conservatives”?

The Miltary costs $0.8T to do nothing. DOGE found and stopped some waste and fraud in Defense. Need more.

So they got stockpiles old weapons, bombs to unload or expire? Uh, go ahead yse them on the Terrirists! WINNING.

Then it cost money to re-stick with newer better different. That's all this is.
 
Honestly, what a nutty argument. Because you have problems with Biden’s spending, you are for spending hundreds of billions of dollars on this needless war. So STFU when it comes to criticizing Trump’s war. If you are in favor of unlimited funding for it, you are all in this debacle of a war. Come out of the closet, Oddball and just declare yourself a proud Trumpist.


SHUP garlic mouth. Stop the $1T fraud and get off the boards dumb OX.
 
Take $200B out of Ukraine waste. Sieze Omar's $30million as a good start. Yes......there is $1T fraud waste or lost.
 
My dad was in the Pacific waiting to invade Japan. We did what we had to do.

And won't other countries say the same thing?

Iran is constantly being bullied by the US, it needs nukes to stop that. They're doing what they have to do.
 
For 4 years I couldn’t open this board without someone screaming about generational theft, the debt clock, and government waste. You almost had strokes over student loan forgiveness. You called Ukraine funding a “blank check.”

You cheered DOGE gutting Medicaid because “we simply can’t afford it.” The “fiscal responsibility” card has been permanently revoked, so don’t ever lecture anyone on this board about spending.

Now the Pentagon wants $200 billion for Trump’s Iran war, on top of the $150 billion already stuffed into reconciliation, and suddenly the debt clock is on mute. That’s $1 billion a day, and the first 6 days alone cost $11.3 billion, almost exactly what your party just cut from SNAP to “save money.”

Fiscal conservatism was never a principle. It was always just a weapon, put away the second Dear Cult Leader decides he wants to blow something up without justification, an exit strategy, or a price tag anyone’s allowed to question.

Like you care about the budget ...

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When your team comes out against for forever wars, come get us...In the meantime, button yer lip.

I have always and consistently been against all these wars. About never ending debt.

Now what?
 
Wrong again, the Patriot Act was opposed by most Dems. I would remind you that Hillary lost to Obama in 08 largely because she voted for the Iraq War that most Democrats opposed.

And then we had Obama in Iraq for his entire eight years while starting new wars.
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Obama also expanded the Patriot act and illegally spied on the country.


Israel has wanted the US to bomb Iran for the past 45 years and only Trump agreed to do so. It wasn’t a Dem it was a Pub.

Israel wanted to destroy Palestine also and it was the Dem's who funded that.
 
First, it's a cult. They really care more about people they support getting their way over what is right for America. Its crazy.

Second, the faux fiscal conservativism is more about protecting the rich interests than real fiscal constraint. Republicans run higher deficits than Democrats and worse economies.
 
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/----/ Are you that dense? A people who scream "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" every day while building nukes. Look at their supply of missiles and drones.


Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the clerical regime in Tehran and its proxies have committed a range of attacks against Americans. This memorandum provides select documentation of these assaults. While the list is not comprehensive, it demonstrates that Tehran continues to pose a threat to U.S. forces in the Middle East, the American homeland, and Americans residing across the globe.

November 1979-January 1981: Iranian students — with the backing of Tehran — take 66 Americans hostage at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

April 1983: A suicide car bombing kills 63 people, including 17 Americans, at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. The Iran-backed terrorist group Islamic Jihad, a precursor and early branch of Hezbollah (not to be confused with Palestinian Islamic Jihad), claims responsibility.

October 1983: Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut, killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.

December 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City. No Americans are harmed.

March 1984: Terrorists kidnap CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut, subsequently torturing and ultimately killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.

June 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome and kill a U.S. Navy diver.

July 1989: Hezbollah operatives kill U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a United Nations peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.

April 1995: An explosives-laden van crashes into a bus near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip, killing one American and seven Israelis. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

August 1995: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood of Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers and wounding more than 100.

February 1996: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a Jerusalem bus, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans. A total of 26 people die in the attack.

March 1996: A suicide bomber blows up the Dizengoff shopping center in Tel Aviv, wounding two Americans. Twenty people die and 75 others are injured in the attack. Both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

May 1996: Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the community of Beit El in the West Bank. Another U.S. citizen and three Israelis are wounded. No group claims responsibility, but Israel suspects Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

June 1996: A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in the Saudi Arabian town of Khobar. Nineteen Americans die and some 500 people are injured. The Iran-backed Hezbollah Al Hijaz, a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, is deemed responsible.

September 1997: Three Hamas suicide bombers blow themselves up at the Ben Yehuda shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens. Four other people die and nearly 200 are wounded in the attack.

August 1998: With the assistance of Hezbollah, al Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding thousands. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, al Qaeda developed “the tactical expertise for such attacks months earlier, when some of its operatives — top military committee members and several operatives who were involved with the Kenya cell among them — were sent to Hezbollah training camps in Lebanon.”

August 2001: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and two other Americans. A total of 15 people die in the attack.

September 11, 2001: While the 9/11 Commission Report concludes that Iran had no foreknowledge of al Qaeda’s attacks on the World Trade Center, the report indicates that Tehran facilitated the travel of some of the terrorists. “In sum,” the report notes, “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers.”

January 2002: Gunmen affiliated with the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade kill a U.S.-Israel dual citizen and wound another individual in the West Bank community of Beit Sahur.

July 2002: A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills five Americans at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, killing five American students, including an American-Israeli dual citizen and an American-French dual citizen. A total of nine people died in the attack.

June 2003: An American citizen, along with 16 other people, died when a Hamas terrorist blew himself up on a bus in Jerusalem.

October 2003: Terrorists from the Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.

2003-2011: Iranian-backed militias kill at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. Iranian training and material support for Iraqi militias during the surge greatly increased the difficulty of U.S. forces to combat the insurgency and included some of the deadliest weapons used against American troops, including explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

August 2003: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American. A total of 24 people died in the attack.

August 2006: Hezbollah fighters kill American citizen Michael Levin, a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), during the Second Lebanon War. He is the only American to die in the conflict.

January 2007: Twelve men affiliated with the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) disguised themselves as U.S. soldiers, entered the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in the Iraqi city of Karbala, killed five U.S. soldiers, and wounded another three. In 2019, the U.S. State Department issued a $15 million bounty for information on an IRGC Quds Force commander who planned the attack and other “assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq.”

July 2014: Hamas terrorists kill two Americans serving in the IDF during fighting between the terrorist group and Israel in Gaza as part of Operation Protective Edge.

October 2015: Hamas terrorists kill an American citizen and his wife, residents of the West Bank community of Neria, in their car in a drive-by shooting.

December 2019: Rockets fired by Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia, kills an American security contractor and wounds several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel at the K1 military base in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

January 2020: A direct Iranian ballistic missile attack against the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq causes more than 100 U.S. troops to suffer traumatic brain injuries.

March 2020: The family of former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, announces that he likely died in an Iranian prison at an unknown date.

September 2020: U.S. intelligence reports indicate that Iran is weighing a plot to assassinate U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marks.

February 2021: An rocket fired by an Iran-backed militia at coalition forces in the Iraqi city of Erbil wounds a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.

July 2021: Iranian-backed militias conduct at least three rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in 24 hours in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.

September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022: A captain in Iran’s IRGC orchestrates the killing of an American citizen living in Baghdad who worked at an English language institute.

March 2023: An Iranian drone kills an American contractor and wounds five service members and another contractor when it strikes a coalition base near the Syrian city of Hasakah.

October 7, 2023: Hamas kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps at least 12 Americans in a massacre of 1,200 people in southern Israel.

December 2023: A drone attack conducted by an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia against U.S. forces in Erbil wounds three American soldiers, including one critically injured with shrapnel to the head that placed him in a coma.

January 2024: A drone launched by Kataib Hezbollah kills three U.S. soldiers at a U.S. military base in Jordan and wounded more than 40 other service members.

October 2024: Iran executes German-Iranian national and U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on fraudulent terrorism charges.

November 2024: A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that Iran and its proxies have conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East between October 17, 2023, and November 19, 2024, resulting in more than 180 wounded and three killed U.S. service members.

November 2024: The U.S. Department of Justice announces charges against an Iranian national and two American accomplices for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025: A U.S. jury convicts two agents of Iran for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York in 2022.

June 2025: At least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq are attacked with missiles or drones, likely by Iranian-backed militias.

That all came about because of the US overturning their secular government that wouldn't allow others their oil in 1953.
 
I'm not really in favor of anyone having nukes, to be honest. But Pakistan has them, the US has used them...

Do I think Iran would use them to attack? No. I think they want them for defense from the US.
Irans policy is to use the nukes as soon as they can build them. Then with Israel gone they will take control of the entire middle east. Their theology believes an apocalypse will bring forth the great prophet. They intend to create it. These are death worshiping fanatics
 
First, it's a cult. They really care more about people they support getting their way over what is right for America. Its crazy.

Second, the faux fiscal conservativism is more about protecting the rich interests than real fiscal constraint. Republicans run higher deficits than Democrats and worse economies.

Trump ran a 7.8 trillion dollar deficit. Biden a 8 trillion dollar one. There really is no arguing either is better than the other.
 
Trump ran a 7.8 trillion dollar deficit. Biden a 8 trillion dollar one. There really is no arguing either is better than the other.
Democrats have reduced deficits they inherit from republicans in every administration for about 45 years. Biden's number includes a large deficit in year one of Covid and a reduction after. Trump raised the deficit every year before covid and then had a monster one the year of covid.

All other republican presidents loaded the US with debt. Clinton and Obama and Biden all lowered the deficit from what they inherited.
 
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