No.
If you think you are ever going to convince me or the Jewish people that the entire teaching in the torah is wrong and that Jesus a fully human being is also fully God you are wasting your time.
You will be waiting for the Jewish people to worship another human being for as long as GISM is going to wait for Jesus to lift him up into the sky.
Even if it turns out that Jesus really is the Jewish messiah, as I already believe, (Just not in the way you do), the Jewish people have always been right to reject him based on the irrational and absurd claims believers such as yourself have made about him making him either look like a complete superstitious fairy tale fabrication, a false prophet, or a deranged and mentally ill first century peasant with delusions of grandeur.
What I would rather discuss is why you teach others that they can defy the law of God and worship another human being and they will not die as scripture clearly states that God has promised but instead will receive eternal life.
who do you think you are fooling?
I never waste my time when it comes to preaching the gospel, Hobelim. Because it isn't my time. It's my Lord's time and he can spend it anyway he desires. I'm an unprofitable servant obeying my King. That is what Servants do. They obey the King.
The Torah is 100% accurate. Jesus Christ is the Messiah - the Jesus of the bible who said, I am the way, the truth and the life. Now there is only one way to believe Jesus Christ the Messiah and that is by His Own Words in the New Testament and the Words of the Hebrew prophets in the Old Testament, Hobelim. Not this new age pie in the sky nonsense that is paving the way for the anti christ!
How can you deny Jesus Christ is the one the Hebrew prophets prophesied about? You cannot dispute the evidence because the evidence is overwhelming. So now you say you believe Jesus is the Messiah but right beforehand you say even if he was the Jewish Messiah......... which is it?
He is or He is not.
The bible says a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
We must know the truth and stand upon it because all other ground is sinking sand. Jesus is the Truth, the Way and the Life. No man. No man can come to the Father except through Jesus. That includes the Jews. There are no exceptions. Jesus is the Messiah Israel is waiting for. He's been there all along but like Josephs brothers they didn't recognize him because he disguised himself ( just as Joseph did ) and his reason was the same - it was Gods plan from the beginning - for a great deliverance! What have they been delivered from? Hell. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. If God is able to graft in the wild branch such as the Gentiles who have recieved Jesus Christ as their Messiah then do you not believe God is able to graft His own children back in? ( the natural branches? ) Of course he can and I tell you the truth - even now? HE IS.
- Jeremiah
If you read my post why are you acting as if I don't accept Jesus was the Messiah when I clearly said that I did but say nothing about what I said about you preaching a false gospel about a false virgin born reality defying Jesus that is not God and never existed with a false message about a false salvation?
Your claim is that a person can defy the divine commands and worship a human being, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, the very Word of God, and they will not die or come under the condemnation of God but instead will be 'saved' and receive eternal life?
Whats your excuse?
How can you possibly even try to deny or justify what scripture clearly teaches is a sin, an abomination punishable by death?
By insisting that Jesus claimed to be God you are in effect saying that Jesus was insane bringing his name into disrepute among intelligent people and exposing yourself as a devoted follower of a nutjob incapable of rational thought.
I believe the old testament is the old covenant and the new testament is the new covenant. For us all, Hobelim. God is not telling me one thing and you another. God does not have a split personality. Okay? Let me explain to you why I know Jesus is God. Go with me to John 1:1 and let us begin there.
It is written:
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. - John 1:1
We know that Jesus is called the Word. We know that He was with God in the beginning. Where was the Word? In the beginning God SPOKE creation into existence. It was the SPOKEN WORD that created. Jesus Christ is the Word. This is why we read in the following 2 verses after -
It is written:
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was the life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:2, 3, 4,
Now why did John say and the Word WAS God. Rather than the Word IS God. ........and why does it say the Word WAS with God rather than Is?
I'll tell you why - God left heaven and came to earth in the form of a man - He layed everything down for us - to come to communicate to us as a man. He depended upon the Holy Spirit and prayer to the Father during His time here. Jesus said he could do nothing without the Father. He walked as a man but a sinless man. Jesus never sinned. That is why Jesus is referred to as the second Adam. That is why he said that he did not come to condemn the world but to save it. He referred back to God the Father and said that was in His hands. Why? Because Jesus had stripped himself of all authority as God in order to destroy Satans works - which was what the first Adam was supposed to do but didn't. This is why Jesus is referred to as the second Adam in the bible.
Furthermore, let me tell about a Jewish woman I met years ago. She asked why would God come in the form of a man to earth?
I told her if you had created ants and you loved them greatly and saw they were about to destroy themselves - you would come to them as an ant, communicating with them on their level and then lead the way to show them how to escape that destruction. That is why Jesus came to earth as a man instead of God.
If God had come down here as God, the people would not have even been able to look at him! His glory is so great! When Moses said, Show me your glory! God had to be mindful of the fact that Moses was a man and could only handle so much.
You are believing in a false Jesus, a false Messiah which Jesus warned you of in Matthew 24. Five times Jesus warns us in one chapter about not being deceived! Why? Because many will claim to be Jesus and they are not. Issa isn't Jesus either. There is such a thing as a false Jesus and that is where the problem lies.
You cannot base anything you claim about this Jesus who you say is your Messiah being in any way connected with the Jesus Christ of the bible. Why do I know this? Because nothing you claim is based on Scripture, Hobelim. It's the opinion of a man. God's Word is not defined by opinion. it is defined by the Holy Spirit who is the author and the revelator of the Scriptures. Without the Holy Spirit a person can be deceived.
In other words, you've been deceived by a false teacher.
So I am giving you the written Word of God to expose the lies you've been taught. Why am I doing that? Because I love your soul and want to see you in heaven when you leave this earth. You won't make it to heaven by denying Jesus Christ is LORD. No one will. I don't care what family were born into. Jew or no Jew makes no difference to me. The Word is the Word. I'm not denying the Word of God. Not for anyone.
- Jeremiah