Pelosi's Star Witness has yet another lie exposed. Zero credibility.

[jc456]

No... You can testify what was said but that doesn't mean you are saying it happened but it it raises a question in the US public, what happened in that car for Epps to say that to Cassidy...

Epps could walk in and said he made it all up... I say the the next question would be, do you think a Secret Service Agent should be telling bullshit stories about the President (his career is over)...

The thin is Mark Meadows was there as well and if Epps says Cassidy is lying then he would have to trust that Meadows would perjure himself too..

So Epps is best off tell the actual truth, he will also have to say if anyone gets in contact with him about his testimony..

Also Epps will have to testify to what actually went on in the car as well and again trust that no one differs from the story...

Guess what, first thing every one will be asked to give a deposition independently..

Are you saying hearsay isn’t something someone heard?

 

[CowboyTed]

Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s Tuesday testimony ought to ring the death knell for former President Donald Trump’s political career. Trump is unfit to be anywhere near power ever again.

In short, Hutchinson was a conservative Trumpist true believer and a tremendously credible one at that. She did not overstate things, did not seem to be seeking attention, and was very precise about how and why she knew what she related and about which testimony was firsthand and which was secondhand but able to be corroborated.

What Hutchinson relayed was disturbing. She gave believable accounts of White House awareness that the planned Jan. 6 rally could turn violent. She repeated testimony that Trump not only knew that then-Vice President Mike Pence’s life had been credibly threatened that day but also that he was somewhere between uncaring and actually approving of Pence’s danger.

She also told, in detail, that Trump repeatedly insisted that he himself should join his supporters at the Capitol — even after being informed the crowd contained armed elements and that it was breaching the perimeter against an undermanned U.S. Capitol Police force.

Also distressing to hear were Hutchinson’s accounts of Trump’s repeated fits of rage, including dining table contents overturned and ketchup dishes thrown violently across the room. The worst by far, though, was that people immediately returning from being with Trump in the presidential vehicle told of the president trying to grab the wheel of the car to force it to be driven to the Capitol and then violently reaching for the neck of Secret Service agent Bobby Engel, who headed the president’s protective detail.

Hutchinson’s testimony confirmed a damning portrayal of Trump as unstable, unmoored, and absolutely heedless of his sworn duty to effectuate a peaceful transition of presidential power. Considering the entirety of her testimony, it is unsurprising that Hutchinson said she heard serious discussions of Cabinet members invoking the 25th Amendment that would have at least temporarily evicted Trump from office.

Trump is a disgrace. Republicans have far better options to lead the party in 2024. No one should think otherwise, much less support him, ever again.

Trump proven unfit for power again - Washington Examiner

Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s Tuesday testimony ought to ring the death knell for former President Donald Trump’s political career. Trump is unfit to be anywhere near power ever again. Hutchinson’s resume alone should establish her credibility. The 25-year-old had already worked...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

In all fairness Hutchinson looks like the most competent person working in the Shit Show...

 

[Dragonlady]

I mean seriously, how can anyone find you credible enough to engage in such nonsense. Really. His lap top wasn't his laptop after it was verified as his laptop. But the kremlin was involved. Well dear, if the kremlin was involved, they are working with the xidens.

The laptop has never been "verified" at all. The ONLY thing that has been verified is that some of the emails and date it contained are genuine. That's not surprising since there was a highly publicized hack of the Burisma servers in the months when Rudy Guilliani was sniffing around the Ukraine looking for "evidence" against the Bidens.

Authorities wondered what the intent of the hacking might be and pointed to a similar hacking in France which was used to obtain real documents and letterheads, to make their faked documents and emails look real. The FBI has NEVER verified that the laptop that was handed over to them was real.

Once again we see the Russian propaganda tools on this website try to twist small facts into large pieces of evidence. Yes there were real emails on "Hunter's laptop". They were there to make the fake emails look genuine.

 

[Clipper]

Link to each instance and how the appropriate statute applies.

CLOWN, never heard of bank fraud, etc?

Go back to GED school.

 

[CowboyTed]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

ALL of this has been thoroughly proven to be true. Why do YOU continue to deny it?

These are the people who worked for and with Donald Trump who are telling you he orchestrated and ordered ALL of those things and more. The evidence is in the testimony and it's backed up by hundreds of thousands of documents.

I expect major indictments by the end of the summer against ALL of the people who were looking for pardons.

When General Flynn take the 5th on the question of whether be believes in the "peaceful transfer of power", you know these guys knew EXACTLY what they were trying to do.

Question:

Can Flynn take the 5th if he has a pardon... How could he be incriminating himself if he has a pardon?

 

[AsherN]

Are you saying hearsay isn’t something someone heard?

Hearsay is saying person A did something and you know because person B told you. Her testimony was just that she was told what happened. She did not say Trump did it, just that she was told this. It's a subtle difference, but the Law relies on such differences

 

[Winston]

Where’s the indictments?

Oh, they are coming hoss. Just like you morons were screaming no one was charged with insurrection, how did that turn out?

 

[CowboyTed]

The laptop has never been "verified" at all. The ONLY thing that has been verified is that some of the emails and date it contained are genuine. That's not surprising since there was a highly publicized hack of the Burisma servers in the months when Rudy Guilliani was sniffing around the Ukraine looking for "evidence" against the Bidens.

Authorities wondered what the intent of the hacking might be and pointed to a similar hacking in France which was used to obtain real documents and letterheads, to make their faked documents and emails look real. The FBI has NEVER verified that the laptop that was handed over to them was real.

Once again we see the Russian propaganda tools on this website try to twist small facts into large pieces of evidence. Yes there were real emails on "Hunter's laptop". They were there to make the fake emails look genuine.

What has been alleged as Hunter's laptop would not be accepted in court. First of all it is not a laptop but a hard drive at this stage and it is not an original but at a copy of a copy...

No court would take that, way too unsecure..

 

[AsherN]

Question:

Can Flynn take the 5th if he has a pardon... How could he be incriminating himself if he has a pardon?

IANAL, but my understanding is that you can't take the 5th on something you have been pardoned for. You can't be charged because you have been pardoned, and the implication of taking the pardon is that you committed the crime, so you have incriminated yourself.

 

[WEATHER53]

The Bombshell turned Bumsrush operating from hearsay.
It is astounding the emotional addiction weepers have to a man who Is Not in power and hasn’t even stated himself that he wishes to return to power. Yet, here they are trying to erase him in the past, present and future
Absolutely emotional breakdowns across the board named TDS.

 

[WEATHER53]

Are you saying hearsay isn’t something someone heard?

They started last night giving hearsay a new “definition”

 

[WEATHER53]

Hearsay is saying person A did something and you know because person B told you. Her testimony was just that she was told what happened. She did not say Trump did it, just that she was told this. It's a subtle difference, but the Law relies on such differences

She did say Trump did it via her recounting that someone else told her he did it.
You attempts to redefine hearsay won’t work.

 

[AsherN]

She did say Trump did it via her recounting that someone else told her he did it.
You attempts to redefine hearsay won’t work.

She recounted what she was told. She did not say Trump did it and I know because I was told. She just said she was told. The story may or may not be true.

 

[jc456]

Oh, they are coming hoss. Just like you morons were screaming no one was charged with insurrection, how did that turn out?

No one has been charged yet. Name one who has

 

[Dragonlady]

Are you saying hearsay isn’t something someone heard?

Most of her evidence was NOT hearsay, it was direct conversations that she was in the room on or the phone for.

Question:

Can Flynn take the 5th if he has a pardon... How could he be incriminating himself if he has a pardon?

Accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt. But Flynn's pardon was given BEFORE January 6th and only pertains to the Mueller charges. It's not a blanket "get out of jail free card" for future crimes as well.

A presidential pardon is only for crimes committed in the past. There is no "pre-emptive pardon" for future crimes. Flynn was pardoned for the charges levied by Robert Mueller. He has no pardon for anything he did in regard to January 6th and both Flynn and his brother can be up for some "seditious conspiracy" charges in the near future.

 

[Leo123]

And day is night, George.

Lying to the press and the press lying to you is not illegal whereas lying to Congress is. Until they testify under oath as to what happened in the vehicle that afternoon, the Rabid Right talking heads can say whatever they want.

Miss Piggy won’t allow testimony in favor of Trump.

 

[Dragonlady]

No one has been charged yet. Name one who has

Looks like 15 people so far, and they were just the low hanging fruit, compared to the Trump Gang.

Leader of Oath Keepers and 10 Other Individuals Indicted in Federal Court for Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment yesterday, which was unsealed today, charging 11 defendants with seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress...

www.justice.gov

Leader of Proud Boys and Four Other Members Indicted in Federal Court For Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned a superseding indictment today charging five members of the Proud Boys, including the group’s former national chairman, with seditious conspiracy and other charges for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan...

www.justice.gov

 

[WEATHER53]

She recounted what she was told. She did not say Trump did it and I know because I was told. She just said she was told. The story may or may not be true.

Wrong
She offered as her testimony as a witness that this is what Trump did. She did not witness the accusatory event, she was discrediting him via what someone else said to her
Classic heresay despite your attempt to redefine the word.

 

[Dragonlady]

Miss Piggy won’t allow testimony in favor of Trump.

No one has come forward to testify on Donald Trump's behalf. Even Ivanka and Jerrod testified against Daddy Dearest.

 

[jc456]

Looks like 15 people so far, and they were just the low hanging fruit, compared to the Trump Gang.

Leader of Oath Keepers and 10 Other Individuals Indicted in Federal Court for Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment yesterday, which was unsealed today, charging 11 defendants with seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress...

www.justice.gov

Leader of Proud Boys and Four Other Members Indicted in Federal Court For Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned a superseding indictment today charging five members of the Proud Boys, including the group’s former national chairman, with seditious conspiracy and other charges for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan...

www.justice.gov

Which one says insurrection?