Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'

[Moonglow]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



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Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

If you want to flush money down the toilet on Green Energy, bring back Obama. He flushed not Millions, but Billions down the toilet, spending taxpayer money on so called unviable "Green Energy"

But to give Pelosi's family (Brother In Law) almost a Billion Dollars? Can anybody say WTF? And why isn't there a law against that?

And the republicans passed the Energy Act of 2005 that is what was followed during Oblama and green energy forms were the mandate along with bio fuels..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



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Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

And we subsidize the fossil fuel industry. Yeah, our system is utterly corrupt. Who knew.

And we subsidize the fossil fuel industry.

Baloney.

Of course we do . How much gas, oil,coal comes from public property ?

An oil company buying a lease is "subsidizing the fossil fuel industry"?

It is if the oil company is paying less than full market rates for that lease.

Well, if they bid against multiple competitors, that shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Doc7505]

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The thorium reactor ran for just over a year and was closed because of rising costs (basically, it broke). The other was also closed based on cost, but it never had time to break.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Pelosi seem very ethical to me.

 

[Dragonlady]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



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Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

That's what criminal politicians do - help themselves to our money.

She's as Criminal as they come.

I love how you coddle and protect the Trump Crime family, many members of which are already in jail, and many more awaiting sentencing, while trying to paint politicians who truly are working on behalf of the people, in an ethical manner, as crooks.

9 guilty pleas from members of the Trump Crime Syndicate. Witness tampering and threatening in plain sight. Pardons dangled daily. 17 ongoing investigations into Trump's finances, his campaign, his inauguration, his emolients, his old tax scams, his money laundering.

And here you are trying to deflect from the crimes of the Trump Crime Syndicate with lies about the Pelosi's.

 

[easyt65]

I love how you coddle and protect the Trump Crime family, many members of which are already in jail, and many more awaiting sentencing, while trying to paint politicians who truly are working on behalf of the people, in an ethical manner, as crooks.

And I love how you attempt to change the subject, distract, and spin when evidence is exposed showing how corrupt and criminal your beloved Democrats are, never being able to bring yourself to accept the evidence and the fact that the Democrats have been playing you and other snowflakes for suckers.

 

[Olde Europe]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle

Still stealing posts from "debatepolitics.com", eh? Along with the redirect-links to prove it.

No..."he" didn't

FULL ANSWER

You are supposed to provide a link quoting the work of others.

 

[iceberg]

No..."he" didn't

FULL ANSWER

Shortly after the solar energy company Solyndra filed for bankruptcy — after receiving a $535 million loan from the Department of Energy — we received several emails from readers asking us to look into the claims made in the chain email above. It gets some of the basic facts correct.

It’s true that Tonopah Solar Energy, a subsidiary of SolarReserve, received a $737 million loan from the government to build a new solar facility in Nevada.
It’s also true that the project is expected to create 45 permanent jobs. However, many construction jobs also would be supported. Furthermore, there’s no indication at present that the loan won’t be repaid. So it’s misleading to claim it is costing taxpayers $16 million per job.
And Ron Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law, had been the executive director with PCG Asset Management, a subsidiary of PCG, until April 2009. But he was only an “independent director” on the company’s board in September 2011 when the loan guarantee for Tonopah was finalized. As an independent director, Pelosi sat on the board of directors, but did not oversee day-to-day management of the company.
What we can’t say one way or the other is whether the loan the company received from the Energy Department had anything to do with Ron Pelosi, as the email suggests. We spoke to company officials for SolarReserve and PCG, and they denied that Pelosi had any influence on the loan. They also stated to us that Ron Pelosi’s compensation agreement does not allow him to benefit personally from the loan, a statement we are not in a position to confirm or dispute.

Update, Feb. 2, 2012: In a statement to FactCheck.org, Ron Pelosi also said that “the loan the company received had nothing to do with me.” He added that he “knew nothing regarding their proposed or actual transactions,” and “did not speak with any person in connection with their plans.” He said that “those who say I did are attempting to smear Nancy Pelosi and me for their own political purposes.”

Pelosi also provided us with email correspondence between him and David Fann, the former president and CEO of PCG Asset Management, indicating that he was only to receive $25,000 annually as a member of the company’s board of directors.

What did you expect them to say, that Pelosi got rich off the taxpayers?

Factcheck.org?

I'd expect them to be honest...unlike you folks

i expect fact checkers to dog on conservatives. the shit they pulled recently on trump has pretty much outted them.

long story short - give me net end positive result for taxpayers from the investment of 3/4ths of a billion dollars.

 

[Dragonlady]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



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Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

 

[Dragonlady]

And we subsidize the fossil fuel industry. Yeah, our system is utterly corrupt. Who knew.

And we subsidize the fossil fuel industry.

Baloney.

Of course we do . How much gas, oil,coal comes from public property ?

An oil company buying a lease is "subsidizing the fossil fuel industry"?

It is if the oil company is paying less than full market rates for that lease.

Well, if they bid against multiple competitors, that shouldn't be an issue.

There's no bidding for these leases. There's not a lot of competition for them.

You should read up on the US/Canada Softwood Lumber dispute under NAFTA. The entire argument the US has been making that the low rate of stumpage fees paid by Canadian lumber companies operating on crown lands, is a "government subsidy" to the industry and therefore illegal under the act.

 

[iceberg]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



~~~~~~
Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

i'll ask again -

what benefit did the taxpayers get from this "loan"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And we subsidize the fossil fuel industry.

Baloney.

Of course we do . How much gas, oil,coal comes from public property ?

An oil company buying a lease is "subsidizing the fossil fuel industry"?

It is if the oil company is paying less than full market rates for that lease.

Well, if they bid against multiple competitors, that shouldn't be an issue.

There's no bidding for these leases. There's not a lot of competition for them.

You should read up on the US/Canada Softwood Lumber dispute under NAFTA. The entire argument the US has been making that the low rate of stumpage fees paid by Canadian lumber companies operating on crown lands, is a "government subsidy" to the industry and therefore illegal under the act.

There's no bidding for these leases. There's not a lot of competition for them.

They can't be the free money machine you imagine, if that's the case.

 

[Dragonlady]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



~~~~~~
Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

i'll ask again -

what benefit did the taxpayers get from this "loan"?

The solar project is up and running in Nevada, and providing power. There is no reason to believe the loan will not be repaid. It certainly isn't a repeat of Solyndra.

And it's been a lot more beneficial to the people of the USA than any of the infrastructure projects approved by the Trump Administration. Oh wait. There haven't been any. Just tax cuts for billionaires.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



~~~~~~
Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

i'll ask again -

what benefit did the taxpayers get from this "loan"?

The solar project is up and running in Nevada, and providing power. There is no reason to believe the loan will not be repaid. It certainly isn't a repeat of Solyndra.

And it's been a lot more beneficial to the people of the USA than any of the infrastructure projects approved by the Trump Administration. Oh wait. There haven't been any. Just tax cuts for billionaires.

I got a tax cut, I'm not even a millionaire.

 

[iceberg]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



~~~~~~
Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

i'll ask again -

what benefit did the taxpayers get from this "loan"?

The solar project is up and running in Nevada, and providing power. There is no reason to believe the loan will not be repaid. It certainly isn't a repeat of Solyndra.

And it's been a lot more beneficial to the people of the USA than any of the infrastructure projects approved by the Trump Administration. Oh wait. There haven't been any. Just tax cuts for billionaires.

you can start to make a point then you fuck it up by getting personal and attacking. if your facts are strong on their own, the counter punches simply are not necessary and weaken your overall stance.

fyi - i'm far from a billionaire and my taxes were reduced. maybe you're exaggerating, huh?

 

[Dragonlady]

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project'​

Pelosi's Brother-in-Law Received $737m Taxpayer Money for Failed 'Green' Project | Neon Nettle
By Jay Greenberg ~~ While Democrats are pushing the "Green New Deal" - requiring unprecedented funding - while simultaneously rejecting Donald Trump's requests for increased border security funds, details of a "loan" that was granted to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law have emerged, further highlighting the Dems' hypocritical use of taxpayer money. When it comes to liberal causes, it seems that the pot of taxpayers funds is never-ending, as Pelosi's husband's brother, Ron Pelosi received $737 million (737,000,000 US dollars!) in 2011 from the Obama Administration as a "Green Energy Loan" to build a solar energy power plant in the Nevada desert which has since failed. The $737m handed to Ron Pelosi's Crescent Dunes project in Tonopah, Nevada, for a 110-megawatt desert solar power plant, was approved by the Obama administration just days after the failed Solyndra project filed for bankruptcy before it was due to be completed.



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Not that there was any insider talk or anything. No way related to her position in Congress Of course not. Pelosi liberally availed herself of insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market before Congress made insider trading illegal for members of Congress. Since she was voting on issues affecting how corporations conducted business, she was in a very good position to profit. Her net worth actually decreased once she could no longer engage in insider trading.
Sure, it's old news, it happened years ago.
Why were these Dem grifters allowed to loot the US Treasury for Fake Green Deals? It was truly a Porkulus and Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Pelosi gorged themselves at the trough. If we taxpayers could have all the money back that was stolen by the Democrats during the Obama Reign of Error, we could easily build the President’s wall to protect our country.
Insider dealing by members of Congress never stopped. Look it up. Legislation was passed and quietly amended to death. It is going on full bore, ironically benefiting the Trump haters in Congress who are cashing in on his stock market boom. How many politicians in Congress and the Senate start out as just making ends meet and by the end of their first term become millionaires?
Were false government reports filed?
Keep in mind...falsifying official documents is the preferred criminal method to cover-up larger crimes. It falls under RICO.

Naturally pelosi didnt influence him getting that kind of money lol hahahahahha I cant lie like that of course she did close to a billion bucks lol

Pelosi has no control over those loans, and her brother-in-law has no direct relationship to the company. You need to understand how corporate governance works. The Board of Directors of Public Corporations includes many prominent business people who are executives and managers of other companies, to provide advice to the corporation, as in "He sits on the board of several major corporations"

"A board of directors (B of D) is a group of individuals, elected to represent shareholders. A board's mandate is to establish policies for corporate management and oversight, making decisions on major company issues."

Pelosi was an 'outside independent director" meaning he has no stake in the Corporation, no active role in the Corporation or its management. Furthermore, he has no role whatsoever in the subsidiary corporation which applied for and received the loan.

This means that not it goes welll beyond stretching the truth to say that Pelosi received any financial benefit from this loan, but its a total fabrication to say that he Pelosi gave her brother-in-law a loan, since Nancy didn't control the agency which granted the loan, and her brother-in-law didn't receive any financial benefit from the loan, so the entire insinuation is a total lie.

i'll ask again -

what benefit did the taxpayers get from this "loan"?

The solar project is up and running in Nevada, and providing power. There is no reason to believe the loan will not be repaid. It certainly isn't a repeat of Solyndra.

And it's been a lot more beneficial to the people of the USA than any of the infrastructure projects approved by the Trump Administration. Oh wait. There haven't been any. Just tax cuts for billionaires.

you can start to make a point then you fuck it up by getting personal and attacking. if your facts are strong on their own, the counter punches simply are not necessary and weaken your overall stance.

fyi - i'm far from a billionaire and my taxes were reduced. maybe you're exaggerating, huh?

Where did I get personal or attack? The facts ARE strong on their own. Pointing out that at least there was an attempt under the previous administration to approve programs to which provide benefits to the general population, this current administration is doing NOTHING in that regard, except trying to waste money on a wall, is contrasting the difference not an attack.

This whole thread is an attack on Pelosi. And one that's based totally on lies.

 

[Olde Europe]

Snopes:

Second, the dollar figure mentioned is a loan guarantee, so the project isn’t going to be “costing us” (i.e., the taxpayers) $737 million unless SolarReserve defaults on the entire loan amount, forcing the DOE to cover the shortfall. If SolarReserve pays back the loan as expected, the added jobs won’t have cost us anything. (SolarReserve announced in December 2009 that it had already signed a 25-year power purchase agreement with NV Energy for the sale of electricity from the Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project.)

It is true that one of SolarReserve’s investors is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG), a private equity firm which has employed Ronald Pelosi (the brother-in-law of U.S. Representative and former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi) as an executive since April 2011. However, PCG’s investment in SolarReserve is a minuscule 2 percent share, the investment and the DOE loan guarantee process for SolarReserve were both initiated years before Ronald Pelosi joined the firm, and Pelosi had no personal financial stake in the outcome:

Ronald Pelosi joined Pacific Corporate Group in April, roughly three years after it had invested in SolarReserve, a company official confirmed. The official said Ronald Pelosi doesn’t stand to profit or lose from the firm’s stake in SolarReserve because he doesn’t have an interest in the fund that made that investment.

The Pacific Corporate Group official said that no one from the firm had contacted the White House in connection with the application.

“This is an absurd suggestion,” Department of Energy press secretary Damien LaVera said of any connection between Ronald Pelosi and the loan guarantee announcement. “Many months of rigorous technical, financial and legal due diligence was done by nonpolitical career employees to scrutinize every aspect of this transaction — over a period of years.

“It was approved because it meets all the requirements of the program — helping America win the clean energy race and create entire new industries for American workers.”

Nancy Pelosi, at an event in San Francisco to drum up support for President Obama’s jobs plan, told The [San Francisco] Chronicle that she was not familiar with the solar firm, its federal loan application or any association her brother-in-law had with the firm.

Ronald Pelosi is “a great guy,” she said, adding that she was sorry he had been “dragged into this.”​

Also of note, those who peddle whatever they find in their chain emails probably also still wait for the huge, enormous windfall they will get from some Nigerian prince.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is a typical right wing slander. You take a single fact and then wrap it up in an entire fantasy of lies, misrepresentations, and total distortions of that fact until you have something that sounds scandalous.

In this case the fact is that Nancy Pelosi’s brother sits on the Board of Directors of a company that once got a government loan. But everything else in the OP that has been added to that fact is a total lie.

 

[Olde Europe]

This is a typical right wing slander. You take a single fact and then wrap it up in an entire fantasy of lies, misrepresentations, and total distortions of that fact until you have something that sounds scandalous.

In this case the fact is that Nancy Pelosi’s brother sits on the Board of Directors of a company that once got a government loan. But everything else in the OP that has been added to that fact is a total lie.

Slight correction here: Ron Pelosi (Nancy's brother-in-law) sat on the board of a company that has a 2% share of investment in a company that got a government loan guarantee. So, in no way, shape, or form did he get a loan.

Otherwise, yep.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is a typical right wing slander. You take a single fact and then wrap it up in an entire fantasy of lies, misrepresentations, and total distortions of that fact until you have something that sounds scandalous.

In this case the fact is that Nancy Pelosi’s brother sits on the Board of Directors of a company that once got a government loan. But everything else in the OP that has been added to that fact is a total lie.

Slight correction here: Ron Pelosi (Nancy's brother-in-law) sat on the board of a company that has a 2% share of investment in a company that got a government loan guarantee. So, in no way, shape, or form did he get a loan.

Otherwise, yep.

Nor was there any taxpayer money involved in that loan, to date. Just a loan guarantee in the event of default, and there is no reason to believe this corporation is going to default.