Pelosi Lies and Her Trip Is A Dud

[Gunny]

she was on a fact finding mission...she wasn't negotiating....are you saying what newt did was a crime then as well.....*pokey stick smilie thing*

You mean Hastert? What he did was worse. He instructed the President of Panama to bypass the President and go straight to Congress. Clearly, as outlined in my references, that would have violated the Constitution and the legal ruling on that particular statute of the Constitution.

 

[manu1959]

You mean Hastert? What he did was worse. He instructed the President of Panama to bypass the President and go straight to Congress. Clearly, as outlined in my references, that would have violated the Constitution and the legal ruling on that particular statute of the Constitution.

can't really fault hassert....big bill was busy aging his cigars

 

[red states rule]

she was on a fact finding mission...she wasn't negotiating....are you saying what newt did was a crime then as well.....*pokey stick smilie thing*

For a trip that was "fact finding" and not negotiating - the Washington post is not happy nothing was accomplished

No Results in Damascus
Having finished hosting U.S. politicians, Syria's dictator has returned to jailing dissidents and sponsoring terrorism.
Friday, April 27, 2007; Page A22


THE CONGRESSIONAL leaders who visited Damascus this month to meet Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad gave a practical test to the oft-stated theory that "engaging" his regime is more likely to produce results than the Bush administration's policy of isolating it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was particularly unstinting in her goodwill, declaring that she had come to see Mr. Assad "in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace." In a statement, her delegation reported that it had talked to Mr. Assad about stopping the flow of foreign terrorists to Iraq and about obtaining the release of kidnapped Israeli soldiers. It also said it had "conveyed our strong interest in the cases of [Syrian] democracy activists," such as imprisoned human rights lawyer Anwar al-Bunni.

Three weeks have passed, so it's fair to ask: Has there been any positive change in Syrian behavior -- any return gesture of goodwill, however slight
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/26/AR2007042602259.html

 

[manu1959]

For a trip that was "fact finding" and not negotiating - the Washington post is not happy nothing was accomplished

No Results in Damascus
Having finished hosting U.S. politicians, Syria's dictator has returned to jailing dissidents and sponsoring terrorism.
Friday, April 27, 2007; Page A22


THE CONGRESSIONAL leaders who visited Damascus this month to meet Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad gave a practical test to the oft-stated theory that "engaging" his regime is more likely to produce results than the Bush administration's policy of isolating it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was particularly unstinting in her goodwill, declaring that she had come to see Mr. Assad "in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace." In a statement, her delegation reported that it had talked to Mr. Assad about stopping the flow of foreign terrorists to Iraq and about obtaining the release of kidnapped Israeli soldiers. It also said it had "conveyed our strong interest in the cases of [Syrian] democracy activists," such as imprisoned human rights lawyer Anwar al-Bunni.

Three weeks have passed, so it's fair to ask: Has there been any positive change in Syrian behavior -- any return gesture of goodwill, however slight
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/26/AR2007042602259.html

dude get a grip on the sarcasam......

 

[red states rule]

dude get a grip on the sarcasam......

I saw it - I am pointing out the great disappointment within the liberal media

I found the op-ed rather entertaining

 

[maineman]

your amusement does not change the fact that Pelosi was on a fact finding mission and not negotiating with heads of state.

 

[red states rule]

your amusement does not change the fact that Pelosi was on a fact finding mission and not negotiating with heads of state.

Did she know that?

She must not have got the message - and neither did the Washington Post

 

[maineman]

Did she know that?

She must not have got the message - and neither did the Washington Post

of course she did.... and since when do you place any stock in what the washington post has to say?

 

[red states rule]

of course she did.... and since when do you place any stock in what the washington post has to say?

Tell that to the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert who is denying giving Pelosi a "peace message" for Syria

The Washington Post was expecting results - not me


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879247562&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

 

[maineman]

Tell that to the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert who is denying giving Pelosi a "peace message" for Syria

The Washington Post was expecting results - not me


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879247562&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

passing a message is not negotiating. and my question was: since when did you put any stock in the washington post? Or do you now quote it because it suits your purposes?

 

[red states rule]

passing a message is not negotiating. and my question was: since when did you put any stock in the washington post? Or do you now quote it because it suits your purposes?

San Fran Nan was conducting her own foreign policy - and it bombed

I am pointing out the Post's dismay

Libs do hate it when their fellow libs openly disagree with other libs (like their reaction to David Broder)

 

[maineman]

San Fran Nan was conducting her own foreign policy - and it bombed

I am pointing out the Post's dismay

Libs do hate it when their fellow libs openly disagree with other libs (like their reaction to David Broder)

no...she was on a fact finding mission.... no negotiations....no policy creation.

And don't start again with Broder....I already spanked you on that once.....

oh...will you EVER explain your 60% decrease remark? I've been waiting for you to stop running away from that for weeks now. When will you stand and explain yourself?

 

[red states rule]

no...she was on a fact finding mission.... no negotiations....no policy creation.

And don't start again with Broder....I already spanked you on that once.....

oh...will you EVER explain your 60% decrease remark? I've been waiting for you to stop running away from that for weeks now. When will you stand and explain yourself?

You do not live in the state of Maine

You live in the state of Denial

 

[maineman]

spin spin spin..... talking points...one liners....yet you NEVER stand and back up your own bullshit. When you look in the mirror in the morning, does the coward looking back at you disgust you?

 

[Gunny]

your amusement does not change the fact that Pelosi was on a fact finding mission and not negotiating with heads of state.

"Negotiating" and "fact finding" are semantics. Neither word is contained within the law. The law is explicit in that the President is the SOLE arbiter for the US in foreign policy, and cangress has no business in it.

That is about as clear as it can get.

 

[Gunny]

passing a message is not negotiating. and my question was: since when did you put any stock in the washington post? Or do you now quote it because it suits your purposes?

Discussing US foreign policy matters AT ALL is "conducting" US foreign policy. That is the term used in the law.

 

[maineman]

"Negotiating" and "fact finding" are semantics. Neither word is contained within the law. The law is explicit in that the President is the SOLE arbiter for the US in foreign policy, and cangress has no business in it.

That is about as clear as it can get.

the speaker was only trying to acquaint herself with the issues and the players so that she might better exercise her oversight role.

 

[red states rule]

spin spin spin..... talking points...one liners....yet you NEVER stand and back up your own bullshit. When you look in the mirror in the morning, does the coward looking back at you disgust you?

MM the truth will set your free - try it - you will not be so angry

 

[maineman]

MM the truth will set your free - try it - you will not be so angry

tell me the truth about the 60% decrease in American casualties.

 

[red states rule]

tell me the truth about the 60% decrease in American casualties.

When losing - change the subject

That is one thing you are good at

Losing on Pelosi - bring up Iraq