Pell Grants, Just Another Grift

[excalibur]

And as with so many of these grifts, blacks benefit more than any other group.

Another program that needs to be axed.

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Nearly 60% of Black undergraduates rely on Pell Grants, compared to 33% of white students. For historically Black colleges and universities, where 70% of students use Pell Grants, funding cuts could devastate enrollment. Without that funding, Black students lose access to professors, classrooms, organizations, and peers who expand their horizons and validate their histories. They miss out on new, nurturing communities and platforms to advocate for equity.

Proposed cuts to Pell Grants and other financial aid jeopardize the opportunity to be in this setting. Dr. Quortne Hutchings, assistant professor in Higher Education and Student Affairs at NIU, warns that shifting education funding to states risks creating “a patchwork system” that deepens inequality.


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Without Pell Grants, Black Students Lose More Than Tuition

If federal aid is cut, students lose access to college experiences that expand their horizons, validate their histories, and help them heal.

wordinblack.com

 

[itfitzme]

And as with so many of these grifts, blacks benefit more than any other group.

Another program that needs to be axed.

Bullshit.

 

[1srelluc]

My daughter got a smallish Pell grant for dental school, she's white.....It's been serving her well too.

 

[Moonglow]

I enjoyed my Pell Grants when attending college...It really helped.

 

[jwoodie]

Without Pell Grants, Black Students Lose More Than Tuition

If federal aid is cut, students lose access to college experiences that expand their horizons, validate their histories, and help them heal.

wordinblack.com

Pell Grants are one of the reasons higher education has become such a financial scam to funnel public funds into left wing colleges and universities. In return, these institutions have prostituted their educational legitimacy by favoring unprepared American and high-paying foreign students over well prepared students from middle class families. As a result, the latter face unreasonably high admission standards and exorbitant tuition fees that require mortgage-like loans to pay them.

 

[d0gbreath]

I enjoyed my Pell Grants when attending college...It really helped.

I always used mine in the overpriced school bookstore.

 

[excalibur]

Pell Grants are one of the reasons higher education has become such a financial scam to funnel public funds into left wing colleges and universities. In return, these institutions have prostituted their educational legitimacy by favoring unprepared American and high-paying foreign students over well prepared students from middle class families. As a result, the latter face unreasonably high admission standards and exorbitant tuition fees that require mortgage-like loans to pay them.

 

[itfitzme]

And as with so many of these grifts, blacks benefit more than any other group.

Another program that needs to be axed.

It's this simple.

Pell Grant Statistics [2023]: How Many Receive per Year

The Education Data Initiative researched how much is the average Pell Grant award and who usually receives it based on income and race.

educationdata.org

• 51% of Pell Grant funds go to students whose families earn less than $20,000 annually – the largest majority.
• 39% of Pell Grant recipients came from families whose annual income falls between $20,001 and $50,000.
• Only 6% of Pell Grant recipients come from families that earn over $60,000 or more annually.

The criteria is based on income. It happens that more students that fit the criteria are smart enough to go to trade school and happen to be black.

If you are too stupid to go to trade school or your daddy is rich, they you aren't qualified.
Which are you?

 

[toobfreak]

And as with so many of these grifts, blacks benefit more than any other group.

I know a white guy who got a Pell grant about 35 years ago. It changed his life, got him educated, gave him a marketable skill and a career and turned his who life around opening the door to good jobs.

The government got back far more in income taxes collected that it spent on the grant.

 

[excalibur]

I know a white guy who got a Pell grant about 35 years ago. It changed his life, got him educated, gave him a marketable skill and a career and turned his who life around opening the good to good jobs.

The government got back far more in income taxes collected that it spent on the grant.

Overall, it is just another program that has become aimed at blacks. As the OP points out, some 60% who get Pell Grants are black. And mostly that is a waste of time.

End it.

 

[toobfreak]

Overall, it is just another program that has become aimed at blacks. As the OP points out, some 60% who get Pell Grants are black. And mostly that is a waste of time. End it.

I might simply add requirements that you maintain certain minimal grades and employment status otherwise the aid stops and/or you must refund the money.

Once again, a federal program whose failing is that it is not being well-managed--- so the solution should be to fix the management of it rather than punish all those whom it helps just because a lot of people are allowed to abuse the program through gross mismanagement.

 

[toobfreak]

Overall, it is just another program that has become aimed at blacks. As the OP points out, some 60% who get Pell Grants are black. And mostly that is a waste of time. End it.

I get that. But also note your operative words: "overall," "60%," and "mostly." Put another way, that means: not entirely, and nearly 50% go to non-blacks. Also consider that blacks tend to make up more of the low-income scale that would qualify for such a program--- rich people certainly don't need it.

So like I said, in the one case I saw, a Pell grant helped a white guy turn his life around and make a lot of money paying lots in income tax whereas otherwise, he might have just been a bum all his life. So, is the real problem the program itself or just that it could be made more effective with better management? I kinda think so.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I know a white guy who got a Pell grant about 35 years ago. It changed his life, got him educated, gave him a marketable skill and a career and turned his who life around opening the door to good jobs.

The government got back far more in income taxes collected that it spent on the grant.

This Slacker System Is for Young Adults Who Are Afraid to Grow Up

The economy would get back far more than it invested if it flunks out this unnatural higher education and replaces it with highly paid professional training. It would be like an NFL team getting the whole first round of draft picks.