Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-ed

[ChrisL]

[QUOTE="ChrisL, post: 9933076, member: 50165"

Find me an UNBIASED source.

Like OUT magazine? The Williams Institute? lol ...

I would like to see a scholarly study, and not something from an organization that is a "traditional family values" organization. Is that too much to ask around here?

 

[koshergrl]

What do you mean "young girls, yes?" Yes, little girls are most often the victims of molestation, and most molestation occurs by a family member, family friend or close acquaintance, IOW, someone who the family knows.

I don't have time to read your links right now because I have to log off and go to work (will check them out later), but I am aware that the family research council is kind of biased and known to cherry pick data. Their goal is to promote traditional family values.

Are you trying to display your lack of reading comprehension , your attention deficit disorder or are you simply trying to frame the argument in a context that it is not ?

Males are the primary culprits in Child Molestation
Girls are the Primary victims of Child Molestation
Boys are the primary victims of Homosexual Pedophiles
Girls are almost never the victim of Homosexual Pedophiles

Did all that sink in ?

Now why in heavens name would a Male Homosexual have an interest in a young girl, unless he was a bisexual . Lesbians simply do not engage in Pedophilia - not that I know of anyway.

And ... why are 35% [Approximation] of all molestation cases committed by homosexuals ? The only explanation the Gay Community can muster up is one semantic evasion - lets see if you can do a little better.

If you are admitting that most often it is little girls who are molested, and that homosexual men would not be interested in little girls, then obviously it is not homosexual men who are doing MOST of the molestation.

Did THAT sink in?

How about that 5% of the population does 35% of the molesting, did that sink in?

What that little factoid tells me is that that 5 percent of the population is molesting children waaaaaayyyy out of proportion to the rest of the population.

In other words, homos are more likely to molest than anyone else.

And yes, lesbians absolutely engage in pedophilia.

Well, I don't know how you guys can claim that when obviously it is heterosexual men who are molesting girls most often than not.

I don't buy it when people claim that homosexuality and pedophilia are unrelated. I do think that if a person prefers to molest children of the his same gender, then he is more than likely a homosexual, but MOST cases of molestation are men violating little girls. Little boys are only molested at (at most) HALF the occurrence that happens with female children, and 86% of all child molestation victims are little girls, so what does that tell you?

About women child molesters, although it happens, they are pretty rare. Sexual assault is still mainly a crime committed by men.

See, there's a big diff between a girl of 14 and a boy of 4. A man who is raping a 14 year old girl isn't a pedophile. Pedophiles target pre-adolescent children.

Statistically speaking, boys are more likely to be molested by homosexuals. In fact, homos are pretty much the ONLY ones that molest boys. Wait..and the occasional female teacher.

The issue here is the fact that a homosexual man presents a much GREATER RISK to children, based on the fact that homosexuals are molesting children at a much higher rate than heteros. There are more heteros so the gross numbers reflect that...but a hetero man is not as likely to be a child molesting pervert as a homo man...and the margin between them isn't a tiny one. A homo man is a LOT more likely to pose a threat to your kids.

 

[koshergrl]

[QUOTE="ChrisL, post: 9933076, member: 50165"

Find me an UNBIASED source.

Like OUT magazine? The Williams Institute? lol ...

I would like to see a scholarly study, and not something from an organization that is a "traditional family values" organization. Is that too much to ask around here?

Sorry, the pro-homo progressive organizations aren't interested in studying this. The ones that do (think KINSEY institute, Planned Parenthood and the CDC) blatantly lie, rig the studies, and deliberately go about skewing the numbers in order to increase pervert interaction with children.

 

[ChrisL]

Are you trying to display your lack of reading comprehension , your attention deficit disorder or are you simply trying to frame the argument in a context that it is not ?

Males are the primary culprits in Child Molestation
Girls are the Primary victims of Child Molestation
Boys are the primary victims of Homosexual Pedophiles
Girls are almost never the victim of Homosexual Pedophiles

Did all that sink in ?

Now why in heavens name would a Male Homosexual have an interest in a young girl, unless he was a bisexual . Lesbians simply do not engage in Pedophilia - not that I know of anyway.

And ... why are 35% [Approximation] of all molestation cases committed by homosexuals ? The only explanation the Gay Community can muster up is one semantic evasion - lets see if you can do a little better.

If you are admitting that most often it is little girls who are molested, and that homosexual men would not be interested in little girls, then obviously it is not homosexual men who are doing MOST of the molestation.

Did THAT sink in?

How about that 5% of the population does 35% of the molesting, did that sink in?

What that little factoid tells me is that that 5 percent of the population is molesting children waaaaaayyyy out of proportion to the rest of the population.

In other words, homos are more likely to molest than anyone else.

And yes, lesbians absolutely engage in pedophilia.

Well, I don't know how you guys can claim that when obviously it is heterosexual men who are molesting girls most often than not.

I don't buy it when people claim that homosexuality and pedophilia are unrelated. I do think that if a person prefers to molest children of the his same gender, then he is more than likely a homosexual, but MOST cases of molestation are men violating little girls. Little boys are only molested at (at most) HALF the occurrence that happens with female children, and 86% of all child molestation victims are little girls, so what does that tell you?

About women child molesters, although it happens, they are pretty rare. Sexual assault is still mainly a crime committed by men.

See, there's a big diff between a girl of 14 and a boy of 4. A man who is raping a 14 year old girl isn't a pedophile. Pedophiles target pre-adolescent children.

Statistically speaking, boys are more likely to be molested by homosexuals. In fact, homos are pretty much the ONLY ones that molest boys. Wait..and the occasional female teacher.

The issue here is the fact that a homosexual man presents a much GREATER RISK to children, based on the fact that homosexuals are molesting children at a much higher rate than heteros. There are more heteros so the gross numbers reflect that...but a hetero man is not as likely to be a child molesting pervert as a homo man...and the margin between them isn't a tiny one. A homo man is a LOT more likely to pose a threat to your kids.

I understand that, and I agree that a man who molests a boy definitely is a homosexual, but the fact is there are WAY more girls being molested at every age group than boys. That tells me that it is a disease that does not discriminate on whether you are a heterosexual or a homosexual. Considering that the population of homosexuals is much smaller (I'm still not buying that 35% number unless confirmed by unbiased studies), then the numbers would seem to say that it is not more prevalent in homosexuals than in heterosexuals. We CAN say that it is more prevalent in MEN though.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Re KosherGrl's thing about lesbians molest. So few women engage in pedophilic behaviours that it hasn't even been studied yet. And of those that have, only a tiny fraction are likely lesbian.

Statistics of pedophilic offenders prove the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.

 

[ChrisL]

Also, men being attracted to specific age groups of females is also classified as a TYPE of pedophilia. They are still preferring VERY young girls in a particular age range. Once these girls grow out of this age range, they are no longer interested in them. Any kind of "age-related" sexual attraction is a type of sexual dysfunction. Normal people are sexually attracted to other people for a variety of reasons.

 

[ChrisL]

[QUOTE="ChrisL, post: 9933076, member: 50165"

Find me an UNBIASED source.

Like OUT magazine? The Williams Institute? lol ...

I would like to see a scholarly study, and not something from an organization that is a "traditional family values" organization. Is that too much to ask around here?

Sorry, the pro-homo progressive organizations aren't interested in studying this. The ones that do (think KINSEY institute, Planned Parenthood and the CDC) blatantly lie, rig the studies, and deliberately go about skewing the numbers in order to increase pervert interaction with children.

There are LOTS of studies about child molestation out there, and all agree that girls are molested at a much higher rate than boys. I will try to dig one up later on.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation[/url]

Good FAQ sorta presentation.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation[/url]

Good FAQ sorta presentation.

Oops, sorry bout that didn't see that multi quote code.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

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[Delta4Embassy]

Hmm, ok, will do this the old-fashioned way.

> ChrisL, one of many 'impartial' sources for information you exhibited an interest in.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

FAQ-like presentation on homosexuality and how it relates to pedophilia and child sexual abuse.

 

[koshergrl]

Re KosherGrl's thing about lesbians molest. So few women engage in pedophilic behaviours that it hasn't even been studied yet. And of those that have, only a tiny fraction are likely lesbian.

Statistics of pedophilic offenders prove the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.

Sure, there are more heteros than there are homos.

But a homo is many times more likely to be a pederast than a hetero.

 

[koshergrl]

Regarding the lesbo/pedophilia thing, I was a program manager for group homes for diminished capacity sex offenders.

You'd be amazed how many diminished capacity lesbian sex offenders there are out there. And you would never in a million years know they're diminished capacity. They have things like ADHD and PTSD (from being molested themselves) etc.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Re KosherGrl's thing about lesbians molest. So few women engage in pedophilic behaviours that it hasn't even been studied yet. And of those that have, only a tiny fraction are likely lesbian.

Statistics of pedophilic offenders prove the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.

Sure, there are more heteros than there are homos.

But a homo is many times more likely to be a pederast than a hetero.

Yes, but this is actual incarcerated offenders. Of those, most are heterosexual.

Pederasty isn't synonymous with pedophilia. Was what we call mentoring today. Included sex, but wasn't solely about it.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh looky, more evidence that shows how pornography *prevents* sexual abuse of children:

"A ring of eight paedophiles, including a former welfare campaigner for young gay men, were today convicted of child abuse and producing indecent images of children. The men, from across central Scotland, were found guilty by a jury in Edinburgh of more than 50 charges, ranging from abusing infants from three months old to conspiracy and holding more than 125,000 images of child pornography."

Scottish paedophile ring found guilty of more than 50 charges UK news The Guardian

 

[koshergrl]

"James Rennie, 38, then the chief executive of the gay and lesbian helpline LBGT Youth Scotland, had been babysitting the son of close friends, called Child F during the trial, since the child was three months old. The child's parents were so comfortable with Rennie that he was allowed to bathe, change and dress the boy, whom he went on to abuse repeatedly for four years, allowing another ring-leader, Neil Strachan, to participate.
An engineer with previous convictions for child sex offences, Strachan, 41, had photographed himself trying to abuse an 18-month-old boy he was babysitting for friends on New Year's Eve in 2005.

"Rennie, a former secondary school teacher since sacked from the helpline, had championed the rights of young gay people. But in private, said Dorothy Bain QC, prosecuting, he had been "polluted by deviant compulsion".

Scottish paedophile ring found guilty of more than 50 charges UK news The Guardian

 

[koshergrl]

Re KosherGrl's thing about lesbians molest. So few women engage in pedophilic behaviours that it hasn't even been studied yet. And of those that have, only a tiny fraction are likely lesbian.

Statistics of pedophilic offenders prove the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.

Sure, there are more heteros than there are homos.

But a homo is many times more likely to be a pederast than a hetero.

Yes, but this is actual incarcerated offenders. Of those, most are heterosexual.

Pederasty isn't synonymous with pedophilia. Was what we call mentoring today. Included sex, but wasn't solely about it.

Yes, nobody has ever denied that there are more hetero child molesters, because there are more heteros.

But homos are more likely to be pedophiles than heteros.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

What do you mean "young girls, yes?" Yes, little girls are most often the victims of molestation, and most molestation occurs by a family member, family friend or close acquaintance, IOW, someone who the family knows.

I don't have time to read your links right now because I have to log off and go to work (will check them out later), but I am aware that the family research council is kind of biased and known to cherry pick data. Their goal is to promote traditional family values.

Are you trying to display your lack of reading comprehension , your attention deficit disorder or are you simply trying to frame the argument in a context that it is not ?

Males are the primary culprits in Child Molestation
Girls are the Primary victims of Child Molestation
Boys are the primary victims of Homosexual Pedophiles
Girls are almost never the victim of Homosexual Pedophiles

Did all that sink in ?

Now why in heavens name would a Male Homosexual have an interest in a young girl, unless he was a bisexual . Lesbians simply do not engage in Pedophilia - not that I know of anyway.

And ... why are 35% [Approximation] of all molestation cases committed by homosexuals ? The only explanation the Gay Community can muster up is one semantic evasion - lets see if you can do a little better.

If you are admitting that most often it is little girls who are molested, and that homosexual men would not be interested in little girls, then obviously it is not homosexual men who are doing MOST of the molestation.

Did THAT sink in?

How about that 5% of the population does 35% of the molesting, did that sink in?

What that little factoid tells me is that that 5 percent of the population is molesting children waaaaaayyyy out of proportion to the rest of the population.

In other words, homos are more likely to molest than anyone else.

And yes, lesbians absolutely engage in pedophilia.

Well, I don't know how you guys can claim that when obviously it is heterosexual men who are molesting girls most often than not.

I don't buy it when people claim that homosexuality and pedophilia are unrelated. I do think that if a person prefers to molest children of the his same gender, then he is more than likely a homosexual, but MOST cases of molestation are men violating little girls. Little boys are only molested at (at most) HALF the occurrence that happens with female children, and 86% of all child molestation victims are little girls, so what does that tell you?

About women child molesters, although it happens, they are pretty rare. Sexual assault is still mainly a crime committed by men.

Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children. Essentially , pre sex. Gender isnt important, access is. Pedophiles are neither gay nor straight when it comes to liking children

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Re KosherGrl's thing about lesbians molest. So few women engage in pedophilic behaviours that it hasn't even been studied yet. And of those that have, only a tiny fraction are likely lesbian.

Statistics of pedophilic offenders prove the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.

Sure, there are more heteros than there are homos.

But a homo is many times more likely to be a pederast than a hetero.

Yes, but this is actual incarcerated offenders. Of those, most are heterosexual.

Pederasty isn't synonymous with pedophilia. Was what we call mentoring today. Included sex, but wasn't solely about it.

Yes, nobody has ever denied that there are more hetero child molesters, because there are more heteros.

But homos are more likely to be pedophiles than heteros.

Impossible to prove who's more likely. All we can say for sure is of CSA convicts, most are heterosexual.

 

[ChrisL]

Hmm, ok, will do this the old-fashioned way.

> ChrisL, one of many 'impartial' sources for information you exhibited an interest in.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

FAQ-like presentation on homosexuality and how it relates to pedophilia and child sexual abuse.

Okay, but this one is biased in the OTHER direction. The author is the writer of a blog about homophobia.

I would like to see an impartial study that was performed by, say, a university, perhaps more than one study, and one that was peer reviewed.

Another thing about "studies" is that there are always other studies to contradict that study's findings. It gets confusing and it's important to know how they conducted study, what were the questions asked, how were the questions asked, the size of the sample, etc. ALL of those things are important to determine the efficacy of the study IMO, because anyone can find any "study" or "article" that agrees with them when it comes to something as complicated as CSA.