Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-ed

[ChrisL]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

I agree though, bad choice of a role model for the gay movement. It's probably only because he was a politician and had some power, not that it makes it any better, IMO.

Have you heard any homosexual ever speak out against Harvey Milk as their iconic leader? Have you ever heard any homosexual speak out against gay pride parades doing lewd acts in front of kids?

Post the link here when you find those individuals and their statements. I'd like to read them... Otherwise I'll have to assume that 0% of the LGBT subculture denouncing either Harvey Milk or lewd pride parades means 100% of LGBTs give their silent assent to them..

I don't know about any of that, but I'm pretty darn sure that most gay people are not pedophiles. They are interested in the same gender, yes, but that hardly equates to being interested in children.

I certainly agree that they should not use such people as any kind of role models or leaders for their movement though. That is where our agreement ends apparently.

 

[asaratis]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

I agree though, bad choice of a role model for the gay movement. It's probably only because he was a politician and had some power, not that it makes it any better, IMO.

Have you heard any homosexual ever speak out against Harvey Milk as their iconic leader? Have you ever heard any homosexual speak out against gay pride parades doing lewd acts in front of kids?

Post the link here when you find those individuals and their statements. I'd like to read them... Otherwise I'll have to assume that 0% of the LGBT subculture denouncing either Harvey Milk or lewd pride parades means 100% of LGBTs give their silent assent to them..

Not unlike the Muslims refraining from calling out their precious Mohammed and his pedophilia. It makes one wonder if not 100% of the Muslim world supports this kind of shit.

 

[Silhouette]

Not unlike the Muslims refraining from calling out their precious Mohammed and his pedophilia. It makes one wonder if not 100% of the Muslim world supports this kind of shit.

Well, you bring up an interesting point with cults and the fear inherent in the fold of crossing the dogma. Either it's fear or silent assent. Either way the subculture of LGBT promotes, grooms and embraces pedophiles [Harvey Milk as their iconic leader no less] and lewd acts in public as a matter of sober pride in front of kids.

So...? I'm still waiting for that public denouncement of those two elephants in the lavender living room. So far, bupkiss...

 

[asaratis]

Not unlike the Muslims refraining from calling out their precious Mohammed and his pedophilia. It makes one wonder if not 100% of the Muslim world supports this kind of shit.

Well, you bring up an interesting point with cults and the fear inherent in the fold of crossing the dogma. Either it's fear or silent assent. Either way the subculture of LGBT promotes, grooms and embraces pedophiles [Harvey Milk as their iconic leader no less] and lewd acts in public as a matter of sober pride in front of kids.

So...? I'm still waiting for that public denouncement of those two elephants in the lavender living room. So far, bupkiss...

You'll get no denouncement from those who participate in the idolatry.

 

[Silhouette]

I don't know that this has to necessarily be a religious conversation. Just from a practical standpoint, you don't engander orphans by placing them in homes of people who openly aver their allegiance to a subculture that venerates a known pedophile [for his sexuality no less] and who gets behind [or fails to denounce] gay pride parades in front of kids. It has more to do with child endangerment statutes at state and federal levels than religion..

 

[asaratis]

I don't know that this has to necessarily be a religious conversation. Just from a practical standpoint, you don't engander orphans by placing them in homes of people who openly aver their allegiance to a subculture that venerates a known pedophile [for his sexuality no less] and who gets behind [or fails to denounce] gay pride parades in front of kids. It has more to do with child endangerment statutes at state and federal levels than religion..

It's religion of one sort or another that drives all large groups. My comparison stands. You shouldn't allow a religious leader to engender you or anyone's children any more or less than you would a pedophilia-driven neighbor. My main point here is that pedophilia today is a direct result of the "teachings" of Mohammed, the epitome of pedophile.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Speaking of pedophiles. This '7th Heaven'/'Star Trek' actor is in trouble.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrT...i/nhdJ4//RK=0/RS=lEog1WcmG7G.aeHcu6kLbKIKQ.g-

 

[asaratis]

Speaking of pedophiles. This '7th Heaven'/'Star Trek' actor is in trouble.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTccZPvTRUGJ8AKgJEDN04;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjAxbTBkBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1412771279/RO=10/RU=http://www.wsbtv.com/news/entertainment/report-7th-heaven-actor-stephen-collins-admits-chi/nhdJ4//RK=0/RS=lEog1WcmG7G.aeHcu6kLbKIKQ.g-

You've already posted that Rubber Room fodder in another thread.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Because a person who just sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children is sick, but they aren't hurting or exploiting anyone. In thcoat sense, they are no more guilty of a crime than the person who sits at home dreaming of committing any other crime. Having revolting thoughts in and of itself is not a crime.

And researchers have an impossible task in finding these people and studying them. How do they maintain such a high level of self-control? Can scientists learn something here that can be applied clinicially? We don't know because these people are hidden from view.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Got a question for ANYONE here. If you cant diagnose pedo in folks who havent acted on urges or gathered up kiddy porn, what good is ANY of this discussion? Do we know what percent of these latent pedosnever commit a crime? No. Can we find out how many there are? No.

Why do these people need special attention? Because EVERY REAL pedo graduates from this IMAGINARY class. And the only reason for that op ed is to pretend that there are are GOOD pedos and BAD pedos. And to INFER that the vast majority is harmless. Where are the numbers to support that fantasy?

Another question is. Is a person a pedophile for merely having thoughts? Or do we only classify them as such if they posses child porn , or expose themselves, or whatever?

Because a person who just sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children is sick, but they aren't hurting or exploiting anyone. In thcoat sense, they are no more guilty of a crime than the person who sits at home dreaming of committing any other crime. Having revolting thoughts in and of itself is not a crime.

So do you feel that a person who "sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children " should be permitted employment in public schools or should be permitted access to children ... say as a Scout Master or Teacher ?

Have you been following the explosion of female teacher sex crimes lately?

Which is better, people getting these jobs while harboring their secret or outed, non-criminals, being prohibited from the jobs?

 

[Rikurzhen]

That's pretty Sick dude , myself as well as any other non-whites , and probably whites as well, find that highly offensive and racist . How do you have the balls to equate Race with sexual perversion and degeneracy ? What gives you the right to hijack a noble cause such as Civil Rights in the name of promoting Mental Illness ?

It's not up to you to decide what are proper reasons for how people form their associations. It's not up to me to tell a woman who sexually discriminates against male gynecologists that she must stop associating with female gynecologists and instead be examined by men. She has her reasons for discriminating. That's all that counts. HER reasons, not YOUR reasons.

 

[Rikurzhen]

back in the 1800's girls were married off as soon as they hit puberty. Some countries still practice that. Boys were married off as soon as they made enough money to support a home. So what changed? Why is it suddenly they are considered too immature to have sex?

So what changed? Why is it suddenly they are considered too immature to have sex ?

Society Matured , as well, the life expectancy in that era was only around 30 -35 years ---- Please tell me you're not trying to defend Pedophilia are you ?

I think it is wrong for an older man to target underage girls. It isn't "love" that he's looking for. Not a partner to care for. Not an equal to share his life with. It's predatory sexual deviancy with no other point other than sexual gratification.

Is it better for the HS quarterback to pump and dump his way through all the girls in all the grades of high school? How about the girls who get passed from player to player?

Lots of HS guys TARGET girls. Same with college college guys targeting girls.

The bad outcomes arise from girls being used as sex objects, being tricked, being disposable.

I'll set up a scenario in which I force myself to make a decision between only two choices. Watch. My, let's say, 16 year old daughter faces a path of falling for the HS quarterback who has a reputation of dumping every girl he's had sex with the very next day and moving on to his next target or she begins to fall in love with her life long family friend, a 24 year old upstanding young man who I know has honest intentions toward my daughter. I'd favor the older man over her HS peer.

My decision is context dependent. I don't believe that every instance of adult and underage girl is automatically bad. Most probably are, but not every one.

 

[Picaro]

A culture that markets the sexualization of children and teenagers is going to have problems, period. I watched a music awards show a while back where dancers and singers wearing stylized 'schoolgirl' uniforms combined with adult women's lingerie was the fashion statement of the moment.

 

[Picaro]

Re sex with young teenage girls, there are studies out that show there are long term health consequences for those actions, involving cancers and other chronic problems, so no, it's not a 'good idea' and early development does not equate to being 'ready' for sex at 14 or whatever.

 

[GreenBean]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

I agree though, bad choice of a role model for the gay movement. It's probably only because he was a politician and had some power, not that it makes it any better, IMO.

Have you heard any homosexual ever speak out against Harvey Milk as their iconic leader? Have you ever heard any homosexual speak out against gay pride parades doing lewd acts in front of kids?

Post the link here when you find those individuals and their statements. I'd like to read them... Otherwise I'll have to assume that 0% of the LGBT subculture denouncing either Harvey Milk or lewd pride parades means 100% of LGBTs give their silent assent to them..

Not unlike the Muslims refraining from calling out their precious Mohammed and his pedophilia. It makes one wonder if not 100% of the Muslim world supports this kind of shit.

It makes one wonder if not 100% of the Muslim world supports this kind of shit.

I don't know about 100% - but the numbers are high in some regions
Afghanistan's dirty little secret

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

 

[GreenBean]

Got a question for ANYONE here. If you cant diagnose pedo in folks who havent acted on urges or gathered up kiddy porn, what good is ANY of this discussion? Do we know what percent of these latent pedosnever commit a crime? No. Can we find out how many there are? No.

Why do these people need special attention? Because EVERY REAL pedo graduates from this IMAGINARY class. And the only reason for that op ed is to pretend that there are are GOOD pedos and BAD pedos. And to INFER that the vast majority is harmless. Where are the numbers to support that fantasy?

Another question is. Is a person a pedophile for merely having thoughts? Or do we only classify them as such if they posses child porn , or expose themselves, or whatever?

Because a person who just sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children is sick, but they aren't hurting or exploiting anyone. In thcoat sense, they are no more guilty of a crime than the person who sits at home dreaming of committing any other crime. Having revolting thoughts in and of itself is not a crime.

So do you feel that a person who "sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children " should be permitted employment in public schools or should be permitted access to children ... say as a Scout Master or Teacher ?

Have you been following the explosion of female teacher sex crimes lately?

Which is better, people getting these jobs while harboring their secret or outed, non-criminals, being prohibited from the jobs?

The female teachers generally involve relatively young women with adolescent boys. Certainly not harmless, but certainly not the same as a the rabid pedophiles who in the past infiltrated youth groups and religious organizations. The Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church being prime examples.

 

[GreenBean]

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

No it doesn't mean every Gay person is a Pedophile, However - Statistically homosexual
pedophiles represent a ridiculously disproportionate percentage of the Population. Yes Heterosexuals are also Pedophiles - but they represent approximately 95% of the population - whereas Homosexuals represent approximately 5% - that 5% of the population is responsible for approximately 35% of all Child Molestation cases.

So basically 5% of the Population is committing 35% of all Child Molestation cases

 

[ChrisL]

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

No it doesn't mean every Gay person is a Pedophile, However - Statistically homosexual
pedophiles represent a ridiculously disproportionate percentage of the Population. Yes Heterosexuals are also Pedophiles - but they represent approximately 95% of the population - whereas Homosexuals represent approximately 5% - that 5% of the population is responsible for approximately 35% of all Child Molestation cases.

Do you have a link to that data, because I hear it's mostly adult heterosexual men who molest young girls.

 

[Picaro]

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

No it doesn't mean every Gay person is a Pedophile, However - Statistically homosexual
pedophiles represent a ridiculously disproportionate percentage of the Population. Yes Heterosexuals are also Pedophiles - but they represent approximately 95% of the population - whereas Homosexuals represent approximately 5% - that 5% of the population is responsible for approximately 35% of all Child Molestation cases.

So basically 5% of the Population is committing 35% of all Child Molestation cases

Even 5% is debatable. And yes homosexual males are disproportionately over-represented in kiddie rapes. Not surprising, as magazines and the like that cater to the homosexual demographic are also the major advertising outlets for pedo organizations, and pedos were a part of the 'Gay Rights' movement organizational charts for decades.

Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are - The Atlantic

The numbers of those identifying as exclusively gay are a small part of the homosexual 'community' to boot. If one were to use the same kind of mathematical spin favored by homosexual activists, then it's obvious the likelihood of a homosexual male being a pedo is 1 in 20 and much higher depending on the number of homosexuals used, while the chance for a heterosexual male in 1 in 499.

 

[GreenBean]

Assclap, why don't you have the balls to admit that you believe blacks should be afforded SPECIAL rules when it comes to discrimination.

Because I dont. I'm happy with the rules in place.

BTW are you gay or something. You seemed obsessed with my ass and balls. Its ok if you are but I'm not so no more sexual advances ok?

LMAO - Classic attempt at "Jamming"

Jamming The objective of jamming is to force opponents into silence by accusations of homophobia, latent homosexual tendencies and bigotry . The purpose being to create a social stigmatization of anyone whom opposes the Agenda. - Gay Propaganda and Brainwashing Techniques Don't fall for it - You're SmarterThanTheAverageBear