Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-ed

[ChrisL]

That's Miss. And in the meantime you risk violating the rights of children, who are completely innocent victims of those scums and pretty much defenseless if they don't have parents watching out for them. So you have to decide who is more important to you? The children or the pedophiles?

The pedophiles naturally. Children are at best a peripheral issue. They'll do what society tells them they have to. They'll get used to it.

After all, society has already "spoken" on that point. Gay pride parades are allowed to do lewd sex acts already in the presence of children and to my knowledge, no naked, spread eagle, gyrating "raw junk in the crowd's face" participant has ever been arrested for violationg local laws against lewdness or nudity in front of kids.

This "new civilization" is already a done deal as far as anyone can tell.. Hang it up and go home. The Supreme Court has all but announced that kids' rights [adoption/marriage] are secondary to gays wanting to access them..

The gay pride parades were a hot topic on a forum where I used to be a member. There were a lot of homosexuals and homosexual rights people on that site, and they told me that activities such as you describe are actually rare and that most of the time the parades aren't like that. However, I've never been to gay pride parade, so I can't say whether they were being truthful or not.

I don't have an issue with gay people and what they do in the privacy of their bedrooms, but I DO still think it should stay in their bedrooms and in privacy. LOL!

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

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Someone, I think Jillian, posted the New York statute not too long ago. It is ILLEGAL to hang up a sign that suggests you discriminate based on color or any of the other specific things mentioned inwhy the CRA

I guess you better start opening a restaurant in New York to show how much you stand behind your convictions then. Remember you can do or say what you want as long as you realize you have to deal with the consequences.

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Why are you being dishonest and evasive Assclap?

I asked you a point blank question.

Since you believe you should be able to discriminate against pedophiles do you also believe I should be able to discriminate against blacks? Just answer yes or no? I'm not asking what the law is, I'm asking your ******* opinion.

Being black or gay doesn't harm anyone. Being a pedophile means you at LEAST have the potential and the urges to harm children.

How is that relevant sir? Where in ANY civil rights law does it say " oh okay if the person seems dangerous to you you can discriminate?" dangerous people have rights to sir.....

Or does your copy of the Constitution say different?

Probably declaring yourself a pedophile would get you rejected from the Armed Forces. You want a law requiring the military to add pedos to their ranks? This is not a Civil Riights issue. It's a Health and Safety issue. You cannot even confirm that a "virgin" pedo is what they THINK they are.

I want no such law. Wait, there already is such a law, the UCMJ would take care of that nicely.

I think some of yall simply aren't grasping what I"m saying here. I don't believe discrimination is right, But I do believe it is A right.

 

[flacaltenn]

Here is the definition of pedophile from the BIBLE of the Amer. Psych. Assoc. The DSM version iV.

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

DSM IV - TR

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

NOTE: I read that to mean that ALL of A), B) and C) must be true to trigger a diagnosis.. NYTimes lady is FOS attempting to adopt a NEW definition of some form of "Good Virgin" pedophile..

It's all a ruse to attempt to "normalize" this disease as a "sexual orientation" and ride the LGBT bus into FreedomLand.

 

[flacaltenn]

Someone, I think Jillian, posted the New York statute not too long ago. It is ILLEGAL to hang up a sign that suggests you discriminate based on color or any of the other specific things mentioned in the CRA

I guess you better start opening a restaurant in New York to show how much you stand behind your convictions then. Remember you can do or say what you want as long as you realize you have to deal with the consequences.

And when Derek Jeter shows up at the front door and he asks him if he's really black --- he better have your Workmen's Comp paid up to date..
Is he really gonna kick his black Congressman out?

Make sure I get the YouTube link when the police arrive..

 

[MaryL]

Gays have money and they are buying out the majority sentiment here. When gays outstrip the majority of Americans on sexuality, they have bought programs like Will and Grace and "Ellen" and got lots of lawyers, something isn't right here. Given gays are a paltry 3 percent of the population or so, why are Americans that can have babies through real reproduction so preoccupied with this inanity? Gays aren't a group newly discovered, they are pretending they are. They are glomming on to political and ethical rights like trying to buy public sentiment, like the NRA or the GOP or the Pew Hispanic charitable trust . Get real.

 

[flacaltenn]

Got a question for ANYONE here. If you cant diagnose pedo in folks who havent acted on urges or gathered up kiddy porn, what good is ANY of this discussion? Do we know what percent of these latent pedosnever commit a crime? No. Can we find out how many there are? No.

Why do these people need special attention? Because EVERY REAL pedo graduates from this IMAGINARY class. And the only reason for that op ed is to pretend that there are are GOOD pedos and BAD pedos. And to INFER that the vast majority is harmless. Where are the numbers to support that fantasy?

Another question is. Is a person a pedophile for merely having thoughts? Or do we only classify them as such if they posses child porn , or expose themselves, or whatever?

Because a person who just sits at home whacking their meat as they dream of children is sick, but they aren't hurting or exploiting anyone. In thcoat sense, they are no more guilty of a crime than the person who sits at home dreaming of committing any other crime. Having revolting thoughts in and of itself is not a crime.

No thought crime prosecution yet, but hate crime statutes come close.
and possession of child porn or exposing yourself ARE crimes.

Enjoying child porn in the privacy of your home is a crime because possession of that material supports an industry that abuses children by using them as sex toys. They cannot understand or legally consent to workinog as models for perverts.

So they ARE exploiting someone..

You misread. In my what if I CLEARLY stated that they were simply thinking about children, no child porn or anything like that because as you say yes posession of such IS exploitation of children and illegal.

But you did imply that what happened in private (whack whack) wasn't exploiting anyone. It IS if you are cruising thru kiddy porn while you are it..

 

[ChrisL]

Here is the definition of pedophile from the BIBLE of the Amer. Psych. Assoc. The DSM version iV.

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

DSM IV - TR

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

NOTE: I read that to mean that ALL of A), B) and C) must be true to trigger a diagnosis.. NYTimes lady is FOS attempting to adopt a NEW definition of some form of "Good Virgin" pedophile..

It's all a ruse to attempt to "normalize" this disease as a "sexual orientation" and ride the LGBT bus into FreedomLand.

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

 

[asaratis]

Gays have money and they are buying out the majority sentiment here. When gays outstrip the majority of Americans on sexuality, they have bought programs like Will and Grace and "Ellen" and got lots of lawyers, something isn't right here. Given gays a paltry 3 percent of the population or so, why are Americans that can have babies through real relationships so preoccupied with this inanity? Gays aren't special group newly discovered, they are a just a few more rat bastards trying to buy public sentiment, like the NRA or the GOP or the Pew Hispanic charitable trust . Get real.

How DARE you besmirch the NRA!!!

 

[asaratis]

Here is the definition of pedophile from the BIBLE of the Amer. Psych. Assoc. The DSM version iV.

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

DSM IV - TR

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

NOTE: I read that to mean that ALL of A), B) and C) must be true to trigger a diagnosis.. NYTimes lady is FOS attempting to adopt a NEW definition of some form of "Good Virgin" pedophile..

It's all a ruse to attempt to "normalize" this disease as a "sexual orientation" and ride the LGBT bus into FreedomLand.

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

It is no wonder that pedophiles are targeted in prisons...often beat to death. Even for murderers and rapists, there is a "*******" limit.

 

[Silhouette]

The gay pride parades were a hot topic on a forum where I used to be a member. There were a lot of homosexuals and homosexual rights people on that site, and they told me that activities such as you describe are actually rare and that most of the time the parades aren't like that. However, I've never been to gay pride parade, so I can't say whether they were being truthful or not.

I don't have an issue with gay people and what they do in the privacy of their bedrooms, but I DO still think it should stay in their bedrooms and in privacy. LOL!

Gay pride parades in New York and San Francisco feature nudity and lewd behaviors of all types on full display. Might try your google images function when you get a minute. This next year the gay parade in SF CA features "tykes on bikes" as the opening act, followed by the entire gamut of sex fetishes on parade...leather, S&M, bondage and all the rest...

You should know what the gay subculture supports in public in front of kids before you ratify them accessing kids via marriage and adoption. Just saying..

 

[saveliberty]

Here is the definition of pedophile from the BIBLE of the Amer. Psych. Assoc. The DSM version iV.

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

DSM IV - TR

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

NOTE: I read that to mean that ALL of A), B) and C) must be true to trigger a diagnosis.. NYTimes lady is FOS attempting to adopt a NEW definition of some form of "Good Virgin" pedophile..

It's all a ruse to attempt to "normalize" this disease as a "sexual orientation" and ride the LGBT bus into FreedomLand.

In part A. B and C it has the word or. Also, once you hit B, I'd say you're there.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Every single ******* pedophile needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.

**** the left in this country.

 

[Silhouette]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

 

[asaratis]

Every single ******* pedophile needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.

**** the left in this country.

It's not just the left, my friend. The bell shaped curve applies to all large groups.

 

[saveliberty]

Every single ******* pedophile needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.

**** the left in this country.

Sorry Matthew, I'm not a sexual deviate, can't do that to the left. <shudder>

 

[ChrisL]

Here is the definition of pedophile from the BIBLE of the Amer. Psych. Assoc. The DSM version iV.

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

DSM IV - TR

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

NOTE: I read that to mean that ALL of A), B) and C) must be true to trigger a diagnosis.. NYTimes lady is FOS attempting to adopt a NEW definition of some form of "Good Virgin" pedophile..

It's all a ruse to attempt to "normalize" this disease as a "sexual orientation" and ride the LGBT bus into FreedomLand.

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

It is no wonder that pedophiles are targeted in prisons...often beat to death. Even for murderers and rapists, there is a "*******" limit.

I'm against the death penalty, but truly I would like to kill a person who hurts a child in any way with my bare hands.

I don't mind if they get beaten to death in prison.

 

[ChrisL]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

I agree though, bad choice of a role model for the gay movement. It's probably only because he was a politician and had some power, not that it makes it any better, IMO.

 

[saveliberty]

This is impacting my normally calm humorous self. Good night and good bye.

 

[ChrisL]

This is impacting my normally calm humorous self. Good night and good bye.

This is definitely an unpleasant topic, but it's important that we know what they are up to, because they have organizations and money. I am hopeful that it means nothing and that none of their wishes would ever be granted, but I don't know.

 

[Silhouette]

I had heard before that the pedophiles had tried to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in the past and were "kicked out" (because I can't think of a better term, Lol). No way is that acceptable. That is dangerous to all children.

Yes, that's why they've enshrined Harvey Milk in law as representative of the LGBT movement "across the nation and the world". Bill Text - SB-572 Harvey Milk Day official designation.

Here's a quote from Milk's biography: "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.." [page 180].

Harvey Milk was sodomizing underaged minor Jack McKinley while simultaneously officiating as his father figure/guardian. I'd say that instead of divorcing themselves from pedophiles, they elected one to be their messiah to their cultural movement.

Well, that is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that every homosexual is a pedophile. There are also (obviously) very many heterosexual pedophiles.

I agree though, bad choice of a role model for the gay movement. It's probably only because he was a politician and had some power, not that it makes it any better, IMO.

Have you heard any homosexual ever speak out against Harvey Milk as their iconic leader? Have you ever heard any homosexual speak out against gay pride parades doing lewd acts in front of kids?

Post the link here when you find those individuals and their statements. I'd like to read them... Otherwise I'll have to assume that 0% of the LGBT subculture denouncing either Harvey Milk or lewd pride parades means 100% of LGBTs give their silent assent to them..