Paying reparations in America would be immoral- The reality of slavery in America versus everywhere else

[DukeU]

Could be. You may not think that more was needed but that is clearly false. We had Jim Crow for instance. Clearly more was needed no matter what you want to be true.

More is wanted but not needed.

Just ask successful blacks who are not and do not play the victim card.

 

[DukeU]

No that's not the solution.

It was the solution.

 

[FA_Q2]

More is wanted but not needed.

Just ask successful blacks who are not and do not play the victim card.

This is a talking point, not an actual point.

IOW, you have nothing. Try making a point other than waving absently at successful people. There were rich black men DURING slavery. Do better.

 

[DukeU]

This is a talking point, not an actual point.

IOW, you have nothing. Try making a point other than waving absently at successful people. There were rich black men DURING slavery. Do better.

Oppression in the U.S.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So you have nothing but generalities.

Not surprising that you cannot actually articulate a point.

Your Presenting an immoral argument. Apparently not caring about slaves in other parts of the world throughout history.

Your argument is extraordinarily selfish. As if the only people of the world who were slaves were black. As if America is the only country in the world. It’s a dangerous thing to do. And in the end I don’t think your ideology will prevail. Because it would be evil for only America to give reparations payments to former slaves.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

They should not but then again no one even understands what 'reparations' even means.

Only surface level bullshit ever focuses on paying anyone anything, that 'policy' is past dumb. Most of the time recreations is seriously talked about it is about investments in specific communities because that is the only concept that can be remotely put into policy terms. But no one here wants a conversation, they want partisan games.

edit: spelling

The whole world would have to invest in so-called underprivileged communities of history. That includes everyone. At various points through history every group of people went through a struggle. you even have societies where entire groups struggled regardless of their race.

This thing should not be a discussion. It’s a topic for radical left wingers. Let’s actually try and do something serious like end homelessness in America. Figure out a better healthcare system for our country because we’re the most obese country in the world.

The level of selfishness of the reparations crowd in America is there for all to see.

 

[sapphiregirl]

If poor homeless white men were excluded from opportunity by government policy , they should sue for reparations. But they can't because white men get the most preferences and if they are poor and homeless it actually is because they made poor choices.

Poor people of any color make bad choices. They smoke more, They drink more. They gamble and play lottery more. They buy more unhealthy food. That's why they are poor.

 

[FA_Q2]

Your Presenting an immoral argument. Apparently not caring about slaves in other parts of the world throughout history.

Your argument is extraordinarily selfish. As if the only people of the world who were slaves were black. As if America is the only country in the world. It’s a dangerous thing to do. And in the end I don’t think your ideology will prevail. Because it would be evil for only America to give reparations payments to former slaves.

That addresses nothing I have said whatsoever. Not even tagentally.

US policies apply to the US. That is not 'selfish.' That is just a fact. That you want to point to other nations doing bad things to justify the idea you do not have to address bad things here actually is rather selfish of you though.

Keep hiding behind other nations. It shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. The sad part is that I have to deal with imbecilic arguments like you make in the OP when I agree with positions and it huts them immensely.

You guys are so damn blind you cant even see it.

 

[FA_Q2]

Oppression in the U.S.


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More absently waving at rich people. Chat GPT would make a better argument.

 

[DukeU]

More absently waving at rich people. Chat GPT would make a better argument.

They got rich because of all the opportunity afforded to blacks in this country.

 

[IM2]

I have to laugh at peope so diagree with me when their disagreement has no basis in fact.

I have posted this study up a number of times:

Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: The Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black Homeownership

This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil

papers.ssrn.com

This study shows that government housing policies provided whites with the equvaen ofnore than 1 QUNTILLION dollars of financial assistance that blacks were denied frm in the last century up until at east 1988. Yet peope disagree with my comment

The problem with the argument is that people disingenuously attaches them to slavery and have ignored the 100 years past slavery, or continuing racsm today.

And they do so without reading the study because they don't want to move out of the positions they are stuck in. Thats because they continue benefitting from racism and they want that to continue. These types cannot compete on a true level playing field. A level playing field mean blacks get 13-14 percent of the wealth. And that is no handout.

I think whites who have a probem with reparations need to realize how this countrys economics really work. Black consumer spending has made whites rich. And black tax money has gone into improving white communites. Blacks bank accounts earn the interest banks use to loan whites money to start businsses while denying blacks. So it's time whites who opposed reparations do the research in order to understand why they are being asked for instead of repeating the dumb ass lines we see here time after time.

If you can't do that then STFU and stop making threads whining about reparations hoping to race bait other idiots into talking stupid.

 

[August West]

The problem with the argument is that people disingenuously attaches them to slavery and have ignored the 100 years past slavery, or continuing racsm today.

Exactly. They think that when scum bag Lee surrendered his army at Appomattox, Americans became color blind.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I learned a history lesson about Ottomans enslaving Europeans. Slavery, bad behavior, and sinfulness are not unique to skin color, ethnicity, religion, or anything like that.

In America they were.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Informative video that debunks the assertion that somehow slavery in America was unique. Fact is we all descend from slaves. Throughout history slaves all over the world were treated extremely harshly, some treated better than others.



The radical left probably won’t watch the video. They will continue to engage in their rhetoric.

I’ve heard the more arrogant radical lefties say “who cares about slavery that occurred in Africa or Asia, This is America”

Fact is Crime has increased in the black majority communities 800% between 1963 and 1993. History tells us During this time racism and segregation in the USA lessened and went away entirely wrt forced segregation.

And of course the many poor homeless white men in this country…. how would they feel if reparations were paid out to folks because they’re black.

You paid Japanese-Americans reparations.

You paid Native Americans reparations.

You paid Eskimos reparations.

You paid Jewish folks reparations.

What restitution was paid to the slaves when slavery ended?

What restitution was paid when Jim Crow was ended?

Why does the hate for black folks run so deep?

What was done to black folks in this country is what was and is immoral.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

More is wanted but not needed.

Just ask successful blacks who are not and do not play the victim card.

They were able to overcome in spite of, but how does that change the injustices that were done to black folks in this country for almost 400yrs and what restitution has America EVER given to black folks for those crimes?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Oppression in the U.S.


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How does showing a couple of successful black folks equate to restitution for crimes committed?

 

[Mac-7]

They were able to overcome in spite of, but how does that change the injustices that were done to black folks in this country for almost 400yrs and what restitution has America EVER given to black folks for those crimes?

You have been repaid with American citizenship

Something that several billion poor people in he shit countries wish they had

 

[the watcher]

What we will see is a failed attempt to appease the chronic complainers and that will only exasperate the situation, and will not address anything. It will be like the failed California attempt to bribe fast food workers for votes, never ending and never enough, until the whole system collapses of it's own weight. This is what happens when you stop teaching math in schools and push some socialist crap instead. Months After $20 Minimum Wage Law, California Fast Food Workers Want Another Increase | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You have been repaid with American citizenship.

No dumbass, we earned our citizenship.

Something that several billion poor people in he shit countries wish they had.

Take that racist, redneck bullshit, turn it sideways and stick it straight up your candyass.

 

[Mac-7]

No dumbass, we earned our citizenship.

Take that racist, redneck bullshit, turn it sideways and stick it straight up your candyass.

You didnt earn your citizenship

Assuming you were born here thats what makes you a citizen