Lewdog
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It wasn't? Oh after several years he just thought that randomly October 2016 was a good time to pay off Stormy Daniels for their affair...10+ years ago?
Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal
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It wasn't? Oh after several years he just thought that randomly October 2016 was a good time to pay off Stormy Daniels for their affair...10+ years ago?
ColonelAngus
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If campaign money was used to pay Daniels, it’s a campaign finance violation and Trump should be fined....
Just like Obama was in 2008 for $375,000 when he violated campaign finance laws.
Where is the Trump/Putin collusion to rig the 2016 POTUS election?
The money trail should be pretty easy to follow.
Did Trump pay $130,000 to Daniels with his own money or with political donations?
I challenge anyone to post what statute Trump violated if he paid Daniels hush money from his own funds that he gave to Cohen.
I’ll even get you started.
Finish the sentence:
When Trump paid hush money to Stormy Daniels, he violated:
Title 52 - VOTING AND ELECTIONS
Subtitle III - Federal Campaign Finance
CHAPTER 301 - FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
SUBCHAPTER I - DISCLOSURE OF FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS
(Now, here is the part where you cite the specific statutes he violated.)
Just like Obama was in 2008 for $375,000 when he violated campaign finance laws.
Where is the Trump/Putin collusion to rig the 2016 POTUS election?
The money trail should be pretty easy to follow.
Did Trump pay $130,000 to Daniels with his own money or with political donations?
I challenge anyone to post what statute Trump violated if he paid Daniels hush money from his own funds that he gave to Cohen.
I’ll even get you started.
Finish the sentence:
When Trump paid hush money to Stormy Daniels, he violated:
Title 52 - VOTING AND ELECTIONS
Subtitle III - Federal Campaign Finance
CHAPTER 301 - FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
SUBCHAPTER I - DISCLOSURE OF FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS
(Now, here is the part where you cite the specific statutes he violated.)
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
What "contribution" is that, ******* liar?
There was not contribution, ******* liar. Also, if Cohen has PRESIDENT Trump on tape, that is espionage and punishable by death. IF the Inquisition leaks that bullshit, an honest court just might have Cohen strapped down for a needle in short order. Not that Robert Torquemada cares, he'd kill his own mother to take out Trump.
deanrd
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Sorry, I have to disagree a little. It doesn't matter when it comes to breaking campaign finance laws. The law only says "a thing of value" which doesn't have to be money. But in this case it is money.Actually, it does matter whose money it was. It very much matters.It actually does't matter whose money it was. It was paid to affect the outcome of the election and wasn't reported. That's the crime.
The entire Rube Herd has been parroting this bogus meme all ******* day. When will you fools wise up to the fact your propagandists are keeping you credulous morons in the dark?
Cohen pled GUILTY to eight counts. That means what he did was illegal, you ******* moron.
And yet you dumbasses make public fools of yourselves all day with this "it wasn't illegal" bullshit.
Now...I will use simple words to help catch all of you up to the facts, mm-kay? But I must warn you, it will be longer than a tweet, so do your best to keep up.
1) Cohen paid money to Stormy Daniels in order to affect the outcome of the election. He used his own money. It was not Trump's money. Therefore, that was a campaign contribution from Cohen to the Trump campaign. Most importantly, the amount exceeded the legal limit. And that is why Cohen is guilty.
2) Trump directed Cohen to make the illegal campaign contribution. That makes Trump part of a conspiracy involving an illegal campaign contribution in an attempt to affect the outcome of an election.
3) After he won the rigged election, Trump funneled money to Cohen by fraud.
Is everyone all caught up now?
Or have all of you already gotten back in line to chow down on some fresh bullshit from the people who lie to you every day?
This was a case from the Southern District of New York, idiot.
REPORT: Donald Trump shot and killed a nun on Fifth Avenue today.
TARDS: Duhhhhhh...what does this have to do with Russia?
Not only was it Cohen's money, but it was also the National Enquirer's money, too. And corporations are not allowed to make direct contributions.
And you can't report a contribution that exceeds the legal limit. Cohen wasn't guilty of not reporting. He was guilty of exceeding the legal limit.
But the NE and Cohen can both say Trump paid them back. Trump can then try to make the case he was using his own money which means no one was paid.
But the truth is, he paid for Stormy's silence. That makes her silence a thing of value. So the money was actually paid "in kind" to his campaign. That's how the law would see it. And that contribution, over a quarter million, would definitely be a campaign law violation.
His lawyer would argue he was merely paying out of his own money to shut a woman up. But her silence would benefit his campaign by affecting the election. That makes it a thing of value.
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
Lewdog
Gold Member
Michael Cohen plead guilty to a FELONY campaign law violation... which Trump is on tape with him making the arrangements for the payments. That's conspiracy.
conspiracy
bripat9643
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It occurred then because that's when she started trying to peddle her story to various smear merchants. Why would he try to pay her off when she wasn't talking about it to anyone? Nor was anyone interested in it before he began his campaign.
It's pretty simple, really. Even an idiot could figure it out.
JakeStarkey
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It is the problem with the campaign finances law: tough luck. Cohen pled to it.
And Trump is on the phone conspiring to it.
jon_berzerk
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what office was stormy running for
that she would have received a campaign contribution
bripat9643
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A plea deal is not proof of anything, moron. It's a deliberate attempt by Mueller to do an end around proof.
Ok, I will play. What was the proper way for Trump to have handled the Stormy Daniels situation if both wanted to come to a settlement?
Lewdog
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He lied and said he paid her off to save his marriage and had nothing to do with the election. He's lied so much, not only can he not keep his lies straight, you guys forget them.
g5000
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Cohen used his own money to pay off Daniels. It was not Trump's money. I don't know where you got the idea it was Trump's money. It wasn't.Sorry, I have to disagree a little. It doesn't matter when it comes to breaking campaign finance laws. The law only says "a thing of value" which doesn't have to be money. But in this case it is money.Actually, it does matter whose money it was. It very much matters.It actually does't matter whose money it was. It was paid to affect the outcome of the election and wasn't reported. That's the crime.
The entire Rube Herd has been parroting this bogus meme all ******* day. When will you fools wise up to the fact your propagandists are keeping you credulous morons in the dark?
Cohen pled GUILTY to eight counts. That means what he did was illegal, you ******* moron.
And yet you dumbasses make public fools of yourselves all day with this "it wasn't illegal" bullshit.
Now...I will use simple words to help catch all of you up to the facts, mm-kay? But I must warn you, it will be longer than a tweet, so do your best to keep up.
1) Cohen paid money to Stormy Daniels in order to affect the outcome of the election. He used his own money. It was not Trump's money. Therefore, that was a campaign contribution from Cohen to the Trump campaign. Most importantly, the amount exceeded the legal limit. And that is why Cohen is guilty.
2) Trump directed Cohen to make the illegal campaign contribution. That makes Trump part of a conspiracy involving an illegal campaign contribution in an attempt to affect the outcome of an election.
3) After he won the rigged election, Trump funneled money to Cohen by fraud.
Is everyone all caught up now?
Or have all of you already gotten back in line to chow down on some fresh bullshit from the people who lie to you every day?
This was a case from the Southern District of New York, idiot.
REPORT: Donald Trump shot and killed a nun on Fifth Avenue today.
TARDS: Duhhhhhh...what does this have to do with Russia?
Not only was it Cohen's money, but it was also the National Enquirer's money, too. And corporations are not allowed to make direct contributions.
And you can't report a contribution that exceeds the legal limit. Cohen wasn't guilty of not reporting. He was guilty of exceeding the legal limit.
But the NE and Cohen can both say Trump paid them back. Trump can then try to make the case he was using his own money which means no one was paid.
But the truth is, he paid for Stormy's silence. That makes her silence a thing of value. So the money was actually paid "in kind" to his campaign. That's how the law would see it. And that contribution, over a quarter million, would definitely be a campaign law violation.
His lawyer would argue he was merely paying out of his own money to shut a woman up. But her silence would benefit his campaign by affecting the election. That makes it a thing of value.
Also, American Media, Inc. used their own money to buy Karen McDougal's story so they could spike it. That money thus became a corporate donation to Trump's campaign, which is illegal.
Lewdog
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Do you know who was Daniels' attorney when she signed the agreement? Do you know who Karen McDougal's attorney was when she signed her's? Lord you people forget all the pertinent information.
bripat9643
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Your dumbass theory has already been discredited over 1000 times. Please spare us the ordeal of doing it again. The boredom is killing us.Sorry, I have to disagree a little. It doesn't matter when it comes to breaking campaign finance laws. The law only says "a thing of value" which doesn't have to be money. But in this case it is money.Actually, it does matter whose money it was. It very much matters.It actually does't matter whose money it was. It was paid to affect the outcome of the election and wasn't reported. That's the crime.
The entire Rube Herd has been parroting this bogus meme all ******* day. When will you fools wise up to the fact your propagandists are keeping you credulous morons in the dark?
Cohen pled GUILTY to eight counts. That means what he did was illegal, you ******* moron.
And yet you dumbasses make public fools of yourselves all day with this "it wasn't illegal" bullshit.
Now...I will use simple words to help catch all of you up to the facts, mm-kay? But I must warn you, it will be longer than a tweet, so do your best to keep up.
1) Cohen paid money to Stormy Daniels in order to affect the outcome of the election. He used his own money. It was not Trump's money. Therefore, that was a campaign contribution from Cohen to the Trump campaign. Most importantly, the amount exceeded the legal limit. And that is why Cohen is guilty.
2) Trump directed Cohen to make the illegal campaign contribution. That makes Trump part of a conspiracy involving an illegal campaign contribution in an attempt to affect the outcome of an election.
3) After he won the rigged election, Trump funneled money to Cohen by fraud.
Is everyone all caught up now?
Or have all of you already gotten back in line to chow down on some fresh bullshit from the people who lie to you every day?
This was a case from the Southern District of New York, idiot.
REPORT: Donald Trump shot and killed a nun on Fifth Avenue today.
TARDS: Duhhhhhh...what does this have to do with Russia?
Not only was it Cohen's money, but it was also the National Enquirer's money, too. And corporations are not allowed to make direct contributions.
And you can't report a contribution that exceeds the legal limit. Cohen wasn't guilty of not reporting. He was guilty of exceeding the legal limit.
But the NE and Cohen can both say Trump paid them back. Trump can then try to make the case he was using his own money which means no one was paid.
But the truth is, he paid for Stormy's silence. That makes her silence a thing of value. So the money was actually paid "in kind" to his campaign. That's how the law would see it. And that contribution, over a quarter million, would definitely be a campaign law violation.
His lawyer would argue he was merely paying out of his own money to shut a woman up. But her silence would benefit his campaign by affecting the election. That makes it a thing of value.
g5000
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Lewdog
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A judge doesn't sign off on a warrant to do a search of someone's lawyer without MASSIVE amounts of information to give them probable cause. Discussing laws with you is like trying to teach a gerbil algebra.
bripat9643
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Prove it, asshole.
jon_berzerk
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Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
Cohen plead guilty to petting a cat.
You are an idiot, as well as a ******* liar,
There is a word you don't know, which is "adjudicated." You are but a Marxist hack spewing shit on behalf of your evil and treasonous party. Grand Inquisitor Torquemada crafted the Cohen plea deal in an inflammatory and slanderous fashion. Because the deal is not adjudicated, it can say anything the Inquisition pleases, it is really just a contract. It can demand Cohen plead guilty to facilitating an NDA or petting a cat - both equally absurd. That Cohen plead guilty to petting a cat in no way indicates that petting a cat is illegal. Cohen would plead to anything to avoid the persecution of the Inquisition, the most vile perversion of justice since the 1400's.
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