Party Over Country

[Independent thinker]

Dems tried to negotiate this.

What they got was a promise to bring the ACA subsidy premium extension to a vote in early December.

That’s nothing much since
A. You can’t really trust the GOP to keep their word
B. They’ll very likely vote it down and walk away giggling

91% of Americans don't get ACA subsidies. Democrats were holding the entire country hostage for political purposes.

 

[22lcidw]

Had any of those 8 been facing an election next year, none would have voted the way they did.

That being said, the lesson for the democrats is probably to better pick your battles.

There are no lessons. Just Sherman's March to the Sea agendas. Another example of jettisoning your own with Schumer. There are some who can only warn where your party is heading. And eventually the Republicans will follow slowly as they have over the last 60 years. The security, police, intelligence state will be dictatorial when we arrive there.

 

[Missourian]

 

[citygator]

so the pendulum is swinging the other way....as soon as democrats **** up again,and they will,it will go the other way until the republicans **** up again...

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

91% of Americans don't get ACA subsidies. Democrats were holding the entire country hostage for political purposes.

Republicans wanted the shutdown to:
a) Continue if Republicans didn’t have their way (party over country)
b) End only if Republicans had their way. (Party over country)

 

[task0778]

You've drank the kool-aid it seems.

Or you did.


Ostensibly, Democrats are trying to pressure Republicans on health care. Joe Biden used Covid-era spending bills as an excuse to expand Obamacare subsidies to help cover the skyrocketing premiums caused by the onerous regulations of the national health care law. Those enhanced subsidies were supposed to be temporary and were set to expire at the end of 2025. Democrats want them extended. In addition, Democrats are screaming bloody murder about modest good-government reforms to Medicaid aimed at verifying addresses of recipients, making sure illegal immigrants don’t get covered, and requiring able-bodied enrollees to work part-time jobs to receive coverage.

Democrats’ Cynical Shutdown Strategy | National Review

It could backfire spectacularly.

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[citygator]

Dems tried to negotiate this.

What they got was a promise to bring the ACA subsidy premium extension to a vote in early December.

That’s nothing much since
A. You can’t really trust the GOP to keep their word
B. They’ll very likely vote it down and walk away giggling

They werent getting anything anyway. All the Dems can do is make budget stuff uncomfortable for the GOP. No legislation will get through because the GOP cant build a consensus for anything and only budget stuff is a go it alone vote threshold.

 

[Lesh]

They werent getting anything anyway. All the Dems can do is make budget stuff uncomfortable for the GOP. No legislation will get through because the GOP cant build a consensus for anything and only budget stuff is a go it alone vote threshold.

When those ACA subsidies double (and they will) the GOP is going to look really bad

And many of those who will be affected are Republicans. Millions. Of voters

 

[ColonelAngus]

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This is PERFECT!

IT IS TRUMP’S SHUTDOWN….BUT THE DEMS STOPPED THE SHUTDOWN.

******* CLASSIC LEFTY BULLSHIT.

 

[ColonelAngus]

“Our strategy was very simple. We couldn’t buckle, and we had to say that they were blackmailing the country to get their way. In order to get their tax cut, they were willing to shut down the government, throw the country into default for the first time in its history and cut Medicare, Social Security, education and the environment just so they could get their way. And we were trying to say that they were basically terrorists, and it worked,” Stephanopoulos told PBS’s “Frontline” in a 2000 interview for its documentary, “The Clinton Years.”

The lefties are such hypocrites.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Republicans wanted the shutdown to:
a) Continue if Republicans didn’t have their way (party over country)
b) End only if Republicans had their way. (Party over country)

Yes! That’s why republicans voted to open the government 14 times I a row!

 

[task0778]

This is why we had a gov't shutdown. The democrats were not satisfied with accepting the status quo, they wanted more.

It also means that these are the same spending levels both parties accepted in March. If these numbers were fine then, they are fine now. As an aside, I agree with my colleague Jack Salmon that these numbers are far from ideal in that they are evidence of a Congress that doesn’t understand the dire fiscal impasse we are heading toward. But, unfortunately, the best responsible option isn’t on the table (whether it will ever be on the table is a question for another day). In that universe, the second best will have to do.

Yet Democrats in the Senate blocked the clean CR because leadership wants to leverage the deadline into a demand for an additional $1.5 trillion in permanent spending. They want expanded ACA subsidies and various welfare expansions. None of this has anything to do with keeping the lights on, and it only exacerbates our perilous fiscal situation.

Self-Inflicted Shutdown Mess | National Review

The country is left waiting while legislators act like children, daring each other to blow up a train that is already heading toward the cliff.

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AND:

The clearest case is the so-called “COVID credits” in Obamacare. These were temporary sweeteners to the Affordable Care Act’s premium tax credits, first enacted during the pandemic and extended through 2025. They did two big things. First, they eliminated the income cap, so even affluent families — for example, a family of 4 earning around $130,000 — could qualify for taxpayer subsidies. Second, they vastly increased the size of the credit, so that households between 100 and 150 percent of the poverty level pay nothing for coverage, while taxpayers cover the entire premium.

Congress does not need to act to end these credits. If legislators simply allow the current law to stand, the expansions will expire on December 31, 2025. The original Obamacare subsidies remain. That is the promise Congress made when it passed these temporary provisions.

Yet, the case for letting these credits expire is overwhelming. These were emergency tax credits’ expansion. The emergency is over, so should the expansion be. The fiscal case only adds to the case for letting them expire on schedule. Economist Brian Blase at the Paragon Health Institute calculates that continuing the credits would cost an additional $450 billion over the next decade. That includes more than $35 billion in 2024 alone, sent to insurers on behalf of people who never paid a premium and never filed a single claim. Nearly 40 percent of enrollees in zero-premium plans in 2024 had no health-care use whatsoever. In total, 12 million exchange enrollees filed no claims in 2024, triple the number from 2019. That is not insurance. It is a taxpayer subsidy to insurance companies for phantom coverage.

Political Cowardice: Covid Obamacare Credit Edition | National Review

The United States can still choose a different path.

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