Parlers victim status exposed as nonsense

Tommy Tainant

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The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?
You are on a site which enforces rules to protect the people who own this forum from losing their forum. On this site you have people banned for doing the same because if they didn't there would not be a forum named USMB.
 
Yeah. . . that is the thing I don't understand about this.

Twitter was used all during the Obama administration to organize folks to get them to go to Syria to join ISIS.

Twitter was never shut down by Amazon. . . so this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

This is sort of like those funny memes by the right begging Iran, Russia and China for assistance to help spread democracy here from an overbearing regime to "liberate" them. :auiqs.jpg:
 
The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

About 245 years ago, you British filth, among other things, tried to impose similar restrictions on political discourse here in America.

Do you remember what the result was of that?

Oddly, nearly two and a half centuries later, you someone delusionally imagine that you have any say or standing in how we run out country.
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?
You are on a site which enforces rules to protect the people who own this forum from losing their forum. On this site you have people banned for doing the same because if they didn't there would not be a forum named USMB.
You have blinders on Moonglow.

You are not addressed the hypocrisy and double standard that shockedcanadian has pointed out.
 
Yeah. . . that is the thing I don't understand about this.

Twitter was used all during the Obama administration to organize folks to get them to go to Syria to join ISIS.

Twitter was never shut down by Amazon. . . so this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

This is sort of like those funny memes by the right begging Iran, Russia and China for assistance to help spread democracy here from an overbearing regime to "liberate" them. :auiqs.jpg:
Yet they will ban patriots who collectively share calls to gather with prayer and work together to arrange peaceful marches against the evil that has been rained down on the nation.
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?
You are on a site which enforces rules to protect the people who own this forum from losing their forum. On this site you have people banned for doing the same because if they didn't there would not be a forum named USMB.

Yes, but we don't have Big Tech overlords shutting down the forum because of a few knuckleheads. The mods do what they can. they aren't perfect. Are we to expect micro analysis of speech? Next up, Minority Report?
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.


All of the messages were removed as violating the TOS

All of the messages were also posted on Twitter.

You Nazis are such fucking frauds.
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?

Rhetoric according to Aristotle:

  1. Ethos is appeal based on the character of the speaker. An ethos-driven document relies on the reputation of the author.
  2. Logos is appeal based on logic or reason. Documents distributed by companies or corporations are logos-driven. Scholarly documents are also often logos-driven.
  3. Pathos is appeal based on emotion. Advertisements tend to be pathos-driven.

Hate and fear rhetoric is Pathos, in today's parlance the publication in question is propaganda; used to motivate the biddable to action - sans logic as we saw on the day of infamy, Jan 6th, 2021. It is tantamount to yelling fire in a crowded theater.
 
The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

About 245 years ago, you British filth, among other things, tried to impose similar restrictions on political discourse here in America.

Do you remember what the result was of that?

Oddly, nearly two and a half centuries later, you someone delusionally imagine that you have any say or standing in how we run out country.
You are comparing Twitter to the British empire?

Cool!!!
 

The general argument is that big tech is stifling free speech by stamping down on free thinking outliers who kick against the establishment.

This is the reality -

Among those posts, which are documented in the court filing, were blatant calls to kill political opponents, elected officials, and public figures. "On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters," one post read. Another included a call to "Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass."
Other posts contained violent, white supremacist rhetoric. "White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists," one user wrote. “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors,” another stated. Amazon included 15 such examples in its court filing.


Please explain to me how this poison advances political discourse.

China sent out a tweet openly admitting to sterilizing Muslim women in China. Iran has spoken about destroying Israel.

Both tweets remained (well, they deleted Chinas after some pressure), and certainly both accounts remain not even suspended. How about Farahkanh and other anti-semites and Black Panther wannabes?

Look, if something is said that is violent, the authorities can apply for a warrant. Social media companies are either publishers or platforms. Which is it?

I don't condone or endorse these sick comments, but, it's a massive over reach to shut down an entire business because of it. It's a fraud in doing so in fact. If all individual crimes meant the collective end of their businesses, who would be left standing?

Rhetoric according to Aristotle:

  1. Ethos is appeal based on the character of the speaker. An ethos-driven document relies on the reputation of the author.
  2. Logos is appeal based on logic or reason. Documents distributed by companies or corporations are logos-driven. Scholarly documents are also often logos-driven.
  3. Pathos is appeal based on emotion. Advertisements tend to be pathos-driven.

Hate and fear rhetoric is Pathos, in today's parlance the publication in question is propaganda; used to motivate the biddable to action - sans logic as we saw on the day of infamy, Jan 6th, 2021. It is tantamount to yelling fire in a crowded theater.


"Words are more dangerous than guns. We do not allow out enemies to have guns, why would we allow them to speak?" - Founding father of the democrat party, Joseph Stalin.
 
So to be clear.....

We can't call for the executions of people on this message board??

How about doxing people and posting their addresses -- we can't do that either??

Can we have free speech here or not?
 
You are comparing Twitter to the British empire?

Cool!!!

It's pretty close to the East India Trading Company.
Except that company was basically nationalized by Britain and was essentially jointly owned.....Aside from the all of the ACTUAL evil that company did in order to gain wealth and power....

Are you saying we should nationalize Twitter?
 

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