Palestinians are not HAMAS!?

[gipper]

Remind when Israelis ever launched a single rocket from a hospital,

and why is the Hamas headquarters situated underneath Shifa?

Really? You can’t really be this uninformed, can you?

See the date of this report. Please get informed.

ISRAEL ATTACKS ON GAZA LEFT STRAINED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN TATTERS​

After a ceasefire on Thursday, Palestinians took stock of damage wrought by airstrikes that left doctors dead and at least 19 health care facilities destroyed.

Shrouq Aila, Anna Therese Day
May 21 2021, 11:17 a.m.
Israel Attacks on Gaza Left Strained Health Care System in Tatters
Leading up to the ceasefire announced on Thursday evening, the medical professionals of Gaza’s main hospital had worked around the clock for more than a week to treat the soaring number of war injuries inflicted by Israeli airstrikes — nearly 2,000 in only 10 days. Medical workers and their facilities have not been exempt from the attacks: Israeli airstrikes have killed doctors and damaged at least 19 health clinics, drawing increasing international outcry and condemnation

 

[gipper]

This shit's starting to get real old, real fast around here.

But it’s very typical. Happens with every war throughout history. You’d think they’d learn, but they never do.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians are not HAMAS!?
SUBTOPIC: The obfuscation or the ground truth using irrelevant interpretation of historical facts.
※→ Gipper, et al,

It is relatively easy to "Jump on the Band Wagon" and support something fashionable, like condemning Israel, the country that is facing danger from every direction → and yet it has become the most successful nation in the region. Israel has the highest ranking of Human Development of and Middle East and North African countries, including the oil and gas rich cartel nations. And you are supporting the idea that the lowest ranking people in Human Development in the region assume control over Israel.

If it wasn't for Israel, the rabbis dog would be loose, spreading its cancer across the Arab Lead nations of the Region.

Yep

Lee Camp [Redacted]

@LeeCamp


I love that as Israel commits war crime

after war crime ...

(COMMENT)

Again, you are one of the propagandist that slings the term "War Crime" around as if you actually know what it means, or have a clue as to the elements of the offense.

Please state the nature of your complaint under the provisions of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court
Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention.

"There is a plausible and credible case that Israel is attempting to commit GENOCIDE"

(COMMENT)

And you make this allegation and yet have stated no evidence or even the specific claim.

[quote: "Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court"]
Article 6
Genocide

For the purpose of this Statute, "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to​

destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:​

​

(a) Killing members of the group;​

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;​

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction​

in whole or in part;​

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;​

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.​

[/quote]

Please name the a national, ethnical, racial or religious group being targeted. And I'll rebut as a layman.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Natural Citizen]

But it’s very typical. Happens with every war throughout history. You’d think they’d learn, but they never do.

No, there's something else going on here.

I've watched three people in particular over the course of the last week or so spending almost the entirety of their day here basically trying to bully people into keeping the terms of controversy relegated to a glorified dick waving contest to satisfy what seems to be a desire to raise a personal arbitrary victim status card, particularly by way of invoking those kinds of baseless accusations toward other people.

They've basically tried to dominate the board in a manner consistent with making certain that the only way that the goings-on are discussed are going to be under their very shallow, very infantile terms

There's more I could say. But for the moment that's really as far as I feel like going with it.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This shit's starting to get real old, real fast around here.

What got really old really fast are the stories people spin to let Hamas off the hook for the subhuman atrocities they committed.

Buttercup is one of them. By claiming I am just listening to mainstream media when I SHOULD be listening to false flag conspiracy theories, instead, she Is indulging in apologia for the very group actually responsible.

 

[rylah]

Really? You can’t really be this uninformed, can you?

See the date of this report. Please get informed.

ISRAEL ATTACKS ON GAZA LEFT STRAINED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN TATTERS​

After a ceasefire on Thursday, Palestinians took stock of damage wrought by airstrikes that left doctors dead and at least 19 health care facilities destroyed.

Shrouq Aila, Anna Therese Day
May 21 2021, 11:17 a.m.
Israel Attacks on Gaza Left Strained Health Care System in Tatters
Leading up to the ceasefire announced on Thursday evening, the medical professionals of Gaza’s main hospital had worked around the clock for more than a week to treat the soaring number of war injuries inflicted by Israeli airstrikes — nearly 2,000 in only 10 days. Medical workers and their facilities have not been exempt from the attacks: Israeli airstrikes have killed doctors and damaged at least 19 health clinics, drawing increasing international outcry and condemnation

Don't evade the question,

were Israeli hospitals ever used to launch rockets,

and why is Hamas headquarters situated under the Shifa hospital?

Did you know Gaza's biggest hospital Al Shifa served as Hamas headquarters?

According to a report by Tablet dated 2014, one of Hamas' main command bunkers was located beneath the Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, there's something else going on here.

I've watched three people in particular over the course of the last week or so spending almost the entirety of their day here basically trying to bully people into keeping the terms of controversy relegated to a glorified dick waving contest to satisfy what seems to be a desire to raise a personal arbitrary victim status card, particularly by way of invoking those kinds of baseless accusations toward other people.

They've basically ttried to dominate the board in a manner consistent with making certain that the only way that the goings-on are discussed are going to be under their very shallow, very infantile terms

There's more I could say. But for the moment that's really as far as I feel like going with it.

This a thread about Hamas and whether they are supported by the inhabitants of Gaza.

Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization that just went on a horrific rampage and they are widely supported.

All those trying to distract AWAY from that fact are responsible for others holding their feet to the fire for doing so.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What got really old really fast are the stories people spin to let Hamas off the hook for the subhuman atrocities they committed.

Buttercup is one of them. By claiming I am just listening to mainstream media when I SHOULD be listening to false flag conspiracy theories, instead, she Is indulging in apologia for the very group actually responsible.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Speaking only for myself here, openly and arbitrarily being charged with supporting a terrorist organization like that would get someone's ass kicked if they had the courage to say it to my face.

A few of you have routinely and arbitrarily made that charge to several people on here whenever they've dared to expand on topical content.

I get that some of you want to dominate the board in a manner in which the terms of controversy are kept strictly limited to what you specifically want them to be limited to (which, from where I'm sitting, has been about as deep as a mud puddle). But that's not how functional dialogue works.

You don't get to just run around calling people supporters of terrorist organizations just because you're a Jew or whatever and want to stand for something and see expanding on dialogue as a rain cloud on your parade.

 

[buttercup]

What got really old really fast are the stories people spin to let Hamas off the hook for the subhuman atrocities they committed.

Buttercup is one of them. By claiming I am just listening to mainstream media when I SHOULD be listening to false flag conspiracy theories, instead, she Is indulging in apologia for the very group actually responsible.

I'm 1000% against violence and terror, and I want justice for the innocent people murdered in Israel, and I have made it clear in numerous posts that I have always supported Israel and the Jewish people. So the stuff you've been saying (to both me and other people on other threads) is nothing but a nasty, ugly vicious lie.

Asking questions or pointing out historical facts about wars based on lies does not make one anti-Jewish or a Hamas supporter. That is the most asinine illogic....either that or just plain nastiness and hate and smearing for anyone who doesn't march in lockstep and immediately believe the msm narrative. But you know what? We can agree to disagree. I told you twice that I didn't want to continue posting with you, and you kept coming back with parting shots.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Asking questions or pointing out historical facts about wars based on lies does not make one anti-Jewish or a Hamas supporter.

Those who have been at the receiving end of those infantile tactics for daring to expand on topical content in a relevant way would do better to stop splainin themselves to their accusers.

All it does it maintain a revolving opportunity for their accusers to continue making the open accusations, thus ensuring (theoretically) that dialogue never gets any deeper than the mud puddle they want everyone else to wallow in and therefore maintained strictly on their own terms at all times.

Don't let those sorts of people intimidate you into shutting up. Say what you wanna say, within fair boundaries of the TOS, of course, and fukem if they don't like it...

 

[buttercup]

Those who have been at the receiving end of those infantile tactics for daring to expand on topical content in a relevant way would do better to stop splainin themselves to their accusors.

All it does it maintain a revolving opportunity for their accusors to continue making the accusations.

Say what you wanna say, within fair boundaries of the TOS, of course, and fukem if they don't like it...


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You're right. I've already been trying to do that. But yeah, I am not going to waste my time any more trying to have a civil discussion with ill-willed people who can't be reasoned with. Mister Beale said it best on another thread here.

 

[Natural Citizen]

This a thread about Hamas and whether they are supported by the inhabitants of Gaza.

By the way.

The APN article pointing to the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research Poll made no effort to clarify whether Gaza Palestinians or West Bank Palestinians were polled specifically, or both. Predictably.

Until a clarification is made, which there won't be, also predictably, (Scratched - Article did actually mention that a sum of 1200 combined were polled) you don't get to reserve the luxury of dictating that the OP is strictly limited to what Gaza Palestinians think and that everyone else has to follow along with what you alone perceive to be the terms of controversy.

I mean, you can try, I suppose. But eventually someone who doesn't care what kind of names you call them for relevantly expanding on topical content is gonna come along and say something about it.

There's a big difference between Palestineans of Gaza vs those of the West Bank, to include geo-political differences which are absolutely relevant to and impact what's going on over there.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

By the way.

The APN article pointing to the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research Poll made no effort to clarify whether Gaza Palestinians or West Bank Palestinians were polled. Predictably.

Until a clarification is made, which it won't be, you don't get to reserve the luxury of dictating that the OP is strictly limited to Gaza Palestinians and that everyone else has to lfolow along with what you alone perceive.

There's a big difference between Palestineans of Gaza vs those of the West Bank, to include geo-political differences.

Since the conflict is currently in Gaza, those are the attitudes that matter - obviously so.

Have you ever heard of Farfur, though? If not, you should.

 

[gipper]

Don't evade the question,

were Israeli hospitals ever used to launch rockets,

and why is Hamas headquarters situated under the Shifa hospital?

Did you know Gaza's biggest hospital Al Shifa served as Hamas headquarters?

According to a report by Tablet dated 2014, one of Hamas' main command bunkers was located beneath the Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Lol. Do you think your question means anything? Israel is committing genocide right now and you want to argue meaningless points. Why?

 

[gipper]

RE: Palestinians are not HAMAS!?
SUBTOPIC: The obfuscation or the ground truth using irrelevant interpretation of historical facts.
※→ Gipper, et al,

It is relatively easy to "Jump on the Band Wagon" and support something fashionable, like condemning Israel, the country that is facing danger from every direction → and yet it has become the most successful nation in the region. Israel has the highest ranking of Human Development of and Middle East and North African countries, including the oil and gas rich cartel nations. And you are supporting the idea that the lowest ranking people in Human Development in the region assume control over Israel.

If it wasn't for Israel, the rabbis dog would be loose, spreading its cancer across the Arab Lead nations of the Region.


(COMMENT)

Again, you are one of the propagandist that slings the term "War Crime" around as if you actually know what it means, or have a clue as to the elements of the offense.

Please state the nature of your complaint under the provisions of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court
Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention.


(COMMENT)

And you make this allegation and yet have stated no evidence or even the specific claim.

[quote: "Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court"]
Article 6
Genocide

For the purpose of this Statute, "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to​

destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:​

​

(a) Killing members of the group;​

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;​

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction​

in whole or in part;​

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;​

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.​

Please name the a national, ethnical, racial or religious group being targeted. And I'll rebut as a layman.

Most Respectfully,
R
[/QUOTE]
Open your eyes and get informed.

 

[gipper]

No, there's something else going on here.

I've watched three people in particular over the course of the last week or so spending almost the entirety of their day here basically trying to bully people into keeping the terms of controversy relegated to a glorified dick waving contest to satisfy what seems to be a desire to raise a personal arbitrary victim status card, particularly by way of invoking those kinds of baseless accusations toward other people.

They've basically tried to dominate the board in a manner consistent with making certain that the only way that the goings-on are discussed are going to be under their very shallow, very infantile terms

There's more I could say. But for the moment that's really as far as I feel like going with it.

Are you suggesting we have pro-war government trolls spamming the board?

 

[rylah]

Those who have been at the receiving end of those infantile tactics for daring to expand on topical content in a relevant way would do better to stop splainin themselves to their accusors.

All it does it maintain a revolving opportunity for their accusors to continue making the accusations,, thus ensuring that dialogue never gets any deeper than a mud puddle and therefore maintained strictly on their own terms.

Don't let those sorts of people intimidate you into shutting up. Say what you wanna say, within fair boundaries of the TOS, of course, and fukem if they don't like it...


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Can people who value difference of opinions,
leverage populism for a constructive outcome?

 

[rylah]

Lol. Do you think your question means anything? Israel is committing genocide right now and you want to argue meaningless points. Why?

Means everything.

Do you evade the question,

because it is of no consequence?

Did you know Gaza's biggest hospital Al Shifa served as Hamas headquarters?

According to a report by Tablet dated 2014, one of Hamas' main command bunkers was located beneath the Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[gipper]

If the question is of no consequence,

why do you refuse to answer?

Because it’s of no consequence. Lol.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Are you suggesting we have pro-war government trolls spamming the board?

I'm not suggesting anything. Clearly pro-war folks exist. I'm not even against war, per se, so long as it's declared and constitutional. But I don't believe in trolls anyway. Trolls can only exist if others voluntarily permit themselves to be led around by them with a carrot and a stick

I just don't think it's very fair, and certainly not ethical or intellectually honest to run around arbitrarily invoking the notion that people are supporters of a terrorist organization just because they question more. That's just a cowardly form of intimidation to shut people up and to speak no further or deeper, in my view.

Unfortunately, a lot of people will shut up when they are at the receiving end of those sorts of mainstream tactics.

I don't care for that flavor of bully behavior, no matter who is on the receiving end of it. It's not what men do.