Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel-Gaza: How can conflict de-escalate?​

Israel keeps pretending that gaza rockets are inprovoked.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Incite and inflame: Israel’s manipulation of the media​

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Confrontations and Balanced Reporting
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Israel-Gaza: How can conflict de-escalate?​

Israel keeps pretending that gaza rockets are inprovoked.

(COMMENT)

This complaining is simple child-like temper tantrums in the face the dangerous outcomes Arab Palestinians know that will result. Anyone who looks a the past history of Arab Palestinian acts of aggression can plainly see the Palestinians WANT to continue the conflict and refuse to accept the consequences of their actions.

Further, this crying about civilian casualties is the direct result of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) failure to follow Customary and International Laws:

Rule 23: Each party to the conflict must, to the extent feasible, avoid locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.​

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Rule 24: Each party to the conflict must, to the extent feasible, remove civilian persons and objects under its control from the vicinity of military objectives.​

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Rule 97: The use of human shields is prohibited.​

Under the Rome Statutes of the International Criminal Court (ICC), “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected people to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts [ICC Statute, Article 8(2)(b)(xxiii)]. By attempting to hide "High-Value Targets" and "Rocket Launch Sites" in and among otherwise protected civilians, HAMAS attempts to render these targets and Sites immune from counterfire. Then when protected civilians are killed or wounded, HAMAS and the pro-Palestinian movement attempt to use media coverage to persuade the International Community as to just how dastardly the Israelis are.

Now part of the pro-HAMAS (ie pro-Terrorist) media presentation was focused on clashes in Jerusalem over evictions and criminal confrontations. This is about the application of Israeli Domestic Law. And the outcome of the application of domestic law falls outside the purview of the International Community (Article 2(7) UN Charter).

I have yet to hear from any complainant what the allegations are. They complain, yet do not articulate the misfeasance or malfeasance of the Israeli. Is what the Israeli doing inside the Rule of Law? • or • Are the Israelis coloring outside the lines?

The Arab Palestinians have an exceptionally long history of violent civil disobedience.

To be fair, The Israeli Police seem to take the side of the Israeli in nearly every clash. It defies the Laws of Probability as to whether the Israelis are always in the right. But once the confrontation turns violent, logic and reason are the first victims.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

I have yet to hear from any complainant what the allegations are. They complain, yet do not articulate the misfeasance or malfeasance of the Israeli. Is what the Israeli doing inside the Rule of Law? • or • Are the Israelis coloring outside the lines?

Israel is imposing its domestic law on the OPT. That makes it international.

Hamas warned Israel that it would respond if Israel continued its aggression in the West Bank,

Israel had a choice. It chose the rockets. Israel cannot claim self defense when it is the aggressor.

 

[Hollie]

Israel-Gaza: How can conflict de-escalate?​

Israel keeps pretending that gaza rockets are inprovoked.

Israel is imposing its domestic law on the OPT. That makes it international.

Hamas warned Israel that it would respond if Israel continued its aggression in the West Bank,

Israel had a choice. It chose the rockets. Israel cannot claim self defense when it is the aggressor.

What aggression in the West Bank did Hamas warn Israel against? Isn't there currently a competing dictator to Hamas in the West Bank?

Could you identify where Israel ''chose rockets''?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What aggression in the West Bank did Hamas warn Israel against? Isn't there currently a competing dictator to Hamas in the West Bank?

Could you identify where Israel ''chose rockets''?

Already did. You need to keep up.

 

[Hollie]

Already did. You need to keep up.

So, as usual, you retreat from your earlier, false claims.

 

[P F Tinmore]

‎Rethinking Palestine: Palestinian Securitization vs Liberation with Alaa Tartir on Apple Podcasts

‎Show Rethinking Palestine, Ep Palestinian Securitization vs Liberation with Alaa Tartir - Jul 22, 2021

podcasts.apple.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Demise of Palestinian Productive Sectors: Internal Trade as a Microcosm of the Impact of Occupation

The Israeli occupation has crippled Palestinian productive sectors, leading to the dominance of internal trade in the Palestinian economy.

al-shabaka.org

 

[Hollie]

The Demise of Palestinian Productive Sectors: Internal Trade as a Microcosm of the Impact of Occupation

The Israeli occupation has crippled Palestinian productive sectors, leading to the dominance of internal trade in the Palestinian economy.

al-shabaka.org

It's a pattern of behavior for Pallys to blame others for their failures and incompetence.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Confrontations and Balanced Reporting
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Israel is imposing its domestic law on the OPT. That makes it international.

(COMMENT)


Just the other day, I posted the special conditions the Arab Palestinians agreed to concerning Area "C." I think maybe 80% of the Arab Palestinians live in Areas A and B.
Israel is following the intent and the spirit of the requirement of the Hague Regulation:

HR 1907 Article 43: The authority of the legitimate power having in fact passed into the hands of the occupant, the latter shall take all the measures in his power to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.​

Israel is generally prosecuting Hostile Arab Palestinians pursuant to the Fourth Geneva Convention:

GCIV Article 68: Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.​

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.​

The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.​

Of course, there are 19 core International Terrorism Conventions and Laws that have to be applied from time to time. I've mentioned many of them in the past. But, it is hard to answer blanket accusations such as this when there are no specifics.

Hamas warned Israel that it would respond if Israel continued its aggression in the West Bank,

(COMMENT)

There is no act of aggression in Jerusalem. I very carefully read the articles you produced and watch the videos. It is impossible for Israeli police, security and military services in Jerusalem to be accused of "aggression" since the actions all took place (as near as I can tell) inside sovereign Israeli territory.

Israel had a choice. It chose the rockets. Israel cannot claim self defense when it is the aggressor.

(COMMENT)

A/RES/3314(XXIX)
14 December 1974

• Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition.
• The first use of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression although the Security Council may, in conformity with the Charter, conclude that a determination that an act of aggression has been committed would not be justified in the light of other relevant circumstances, including the fact that the acts concerned or their consequences are not of sufficient gravity.

In terms of HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) : The Israeli General said that armed groups in Gaza have fired about 3,000 rockets towards Israel since Monday.
WorldAgence France-PresseUpdated: May 16, 2021 6:02 pm IST

The Israelis are being quite conservative in the counterfire. I can only wonder what the US would do if Mexico, run largely by the Drug Cartels and Human Traffickers, fire 3000 rockets into the US and set 33000 people to overrun the border all at once.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's a pattern of behavior for Pallys to blame others for their failures and incompetence.

Indeed, bombing their factories and bulldozing their crops has nothing to do with it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The first use of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression

It was Israel's aggression in occupied Jerusalem that started it.

 

[Hollie]

Indeed, bombing their factories and bulldozing their crops has nothing to do with it.

Indeed, you offer nothing to support your hysterical claims.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, you offer nothing to support your hysterical claims.

Sure I have. You need to keep up.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sheikh Jarrah: Settler colonialism, media coverage, and forced expulsions​

 

[Hollie]

Sure I have. You need to keep up.

Indeed, have you cut and pasted a youtube video?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Confrontations and Balanced Reporting
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

It was Israel's aggression in occupied Jerusalem that started it.

(QUESTION)

OK, exactly what did the Israelis do that was considered an "act of aggression?"

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Confrontations and Balanced Reporting
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,


(QUESTION)

OK, exactly what did the Israelis do that was considered an "act of aggression?"

Most Respectfully,
R

Geeze, Rocco, Where have you been?

Beyond a ceasefire: ending Israeli aggression in all its forms against the Palestinian people​